Chief PA negotiator: "We may have to abandon two-state solution"

[Thunder]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1125875.html

This is because Israel refuses to stop building and expanding existing settlements, insists that they would control the airspace over any future Palestinian state, and insists that they would control the eastern border of any Palestinian state.

While I do not agree with Erekat's pessimism, I have to agree that it is hard to imagine that Israel would agree to dismantle the settlements that it is building right now.

Perhaps the two-state solution is dead. Perhaps it is time for the Palestinians to demand that Israel annex the West Bank...and demand to become citizens of Israel.

The two-state solution was very viable in 1975, 1980, 1990..even 2001.

But now? It may just be too late. But this way, the Israeli settlers can stay right where they are and no one has to go anywhere.

 

[INRM]

Parky76,

That actually isn't such a bad idea, annexing Israel with Palestine and giving the Palestinians full citizenship rights of Israeli citizens. Of course they'd be persecuted relentlessly by some bigoted Israeli's who consider them to be sub-human scum.

I don't know how many Israeli's there are who actually believe stuff like that, though. I don't know if the bulk of the country feels that way or if it's just a small number of extremists. It's hard to tell because extremists make the most noise and everybody then perceives everybody to be extremists.

INRM

 

[Thunder]

If the Palestinians do actually abandon the two-state solution, and instead demand that Israel annex the West Bank and give all the Palestinians citizenship, Israel will be in quite a pickle.

how could the Israelis honestly reject an offer to annex their "holy land"??

how could anyone resist people asking to be full citizens?

Israel better make the two-state solution happen soon, or they are gonna end up in a situation they will never forgive themselves for creating.

 

[Darth Rotor]

OK, here we go with fun scenarios:

Israel changes its name to Palestine (If Burma can change theirs to Myanmar, Israel can change as well). It annexes then the West Bank. No two state solution. It invades Gaza and annexes it into Greater palestine. Hamas becomes the BNP of Palestine. No two state solution.

All are now happy.

DR

 

[Thunder]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=7874http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_1096246cc63d8933a7.jpg
OK, here we go with fun scenarios:

Israel changes its name to Palestine (If Burma can change theirs to Myanmar, Israel can change as well). It annexes then the West Bank. No two state solution. It invades Gaza and annexes it into Greater palestine. Hamas becomes the BNP of Palestine. No two state solution.

All are now happy.



DR

do you feel the two-state solution is still feesible?

i mean, i really doubt even half of the Israeli settlers would agree to returning to Israel, without starting a civil war first.

and it would be impossibe to get the Palestinians to agree to a Palestinian state that looked like swiss cheese.

so, there are only really two options:

a. the settlers stay in their homes, as citizens of Palestine.
b. Israel annexes the WB and they all live happily ever after.

 

[Darth Rotor]

do you feel the two-state solution is still feesible?

i mean, i really doubt even half of the Israeli settlers would agree to returning to Israel, without starting a civil war first.

and it would be impossibe to get the Palestinians to agree to a Palestinian state that looked like swiss cheese.

so, there are only really two options:

a. the settlers stay in their homes, as citizens of Palestine.
b. Israel annexes the WB and they all live happily ever after.

Annexation by Syria, who view Israel as their Sudetenland, and Lebanon as their Austria.

That's another fine Anschluss option.

DR

 

[WildCat]

do you feel the two-state solution is still feesible?

i mean, i really doubt even half of the Israeli settlers would agree to returning to Israel, without starting a civil war first.

and it would be impossibe to get the Palestinians to agree to a Palestinian state that looked like swiss cheese.

so, there are only really two options:

a. the settlers stay in their homes, as citizens of Palestine.
b. Israel annexes the WB and they all live happily ever after.

It's a simple world for simple people.

 

[Thunder]

Annexation by Syria, who view Israel as their Sudetenland, and Lebanon as their Austria.

That's another fine Anschluss option.

so what are you suggesting?

"feasible"

 

[Darth Rotor]

so what are you suggesting?

"feasible"

That you go to Kmart and rent a clue. If the Pals reject a two state solution, all I need to do is buy popcorn and watch the mutual attempts at slaughter begin.

Go Go local Semites! Soak the sand with your blood, fill your graveyards with your bones. That'll show the rest of us how screwed up we are.

Look, parky, I just dropped an anvil on my toe.

DR

 

[Skeptic]

Of course they'd be persecuted relentlessly by some bigoted Israeli's who consider them to be sub-human scum.

Well, all those random rocket firing, suicide bombers, terrorist attacks, and kill-the-Jews TV shows aimed at 5-year-olds sort of tend to color one's views about the kind of society that produces them.

By the way, depending on how one counts, this is somewhere between the 4th to 8th or so time the Palestinians (or the Arabs in general) rejected a two-state solution.

All those solutions had one crucial flaw.

They let the Jews live.

 

[gtc]

So the Palestinian leaders realise they can't eliminate the Jews by military means and can't eliminate them by terroist means so they will try to eliminate them by merging the two countries and waiting until they have they have the numbers to make the Jews second class citizens (as a first step).

I give them points for coming up with a moderately sane plan and points for pulling the wool over the starry eyed peace niks in the West. I doubt they will manage to sell the plan to their more rabid supporters though.