Chief Justice Moore refuses to remove 10 commandments

The deadline was last night. Anyone arrested? What happened? I am sure the monument is still there.

Anyone in the know?

Lurker
 
The Monument is still there. Judge Moore has still refused to remove it. Twenty one people were arrested yesterday for trespasing when they refused to leave the building when it closed. They were released right afterward.
 
It's scary sometimes

It's scary sometimes, the kind of guys who get to be judges.
 
a_unique_person said:
Time to bring in the National Guard.
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Oh yeah. Now you become a fan of the military! Gee AUP, aren't these the same evil troops used to kill zillions of babies in 'Nam? And you want to use their planes tanks and automatic weapons to sweep 20-odd unarmed and peaceful religious nuts from a public bldg? :D :D You and Janet Reno have alot in common.

Gimme a break. Ignore them. Turn off the cameras. When they get bored and leave, bring in a truck and cart the offensive thing to a prison yard where the hard-labor inmates can use it as sledgehamer practice. ;) See how easy it all could be? :rolleyes:

-z
 
Mr Manifesto said:
Do you think there's something in the water in Alabama?
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This link takes you to an article at the New York Times web site. It's a pretty good article, but you might have to register to read it.
Associate Justice Tom Woodall of the Alabama Supreme Court said a majority of judges could vote to remove Justice Moore's administrative power over the building and have the monument carted away.

"That has been discussed," Justice Woodall said. "A lot."
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Perhaps the time has come to stop discussing and to start acting. The Alabama Supreme Court has the power to rescue the situation and to preserve the state judiciary's prestige. Will it exercise that power? One of the risks of being a judge is that sometimes a judge has to make a decision that is politically unpopular. If the other members of the Court are willing to risk the political backlash associated with making an unpopular (but legally sound) decision, then they are courageous indeed.
 
repairman said:
The Monument is still there. Judge Moore has still refused to remove it. Twenty one people were arrested yesterday for trespasing when they refused to leave the building when it closed. They were released right afterward.
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ahh yes...witness the creation of latter-day Biblical heroes!
Some, earlier on Wednesday, had even been arrested, including 66-year-old Karen Kennedy, who was handcuffed in her wheelchair.

By midnight, Ms. Kennedy was back. And a hero.

"Let's hear it for this woman," yelled the Rev. Pat Mahoney, director of the Christian Defense Coalition.

"That's right," Ms. Kennedy said from the courthouse steps. "I was cuffed for God."
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We are a nation of laws or we are not. Moore should be arrested and held every day until the monument is removed and then fined a gazillion dollars.

What is really scary about this fool and the state of Alabama is he was very vocal about handing down decisions based on the Bible rather than law.
 
What really confuses me about the CSS in the US is that people are allowed to swear their oath to the court on the Bible in the US - I don't understand why that is allowed.
 
Text of the Supreme Court's order, from the Court's web site:
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 20, 2003
ORDER IN PENDING CASE
03A143 (03-258) IN RE ROY S. MOORE
The application to recall mandate and to stay enforcement of final judgment presented to Justice Kennedy and by him referred to the Court is denied.
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17 Do not make cast idols.
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Good thing most of my idols are forged. I've got a couple that I machined from billett stock, too.

Mr. Moore's monument would make lovely countertops were it properly sliced...

did
 
reprise said:
What really confuses me about the CSS in the US is that people are allowed to swear their oath to the court on the Bible in the US - I don't understand why that is allowed.
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Allowing an individual to swear an oath with their hand on the Bible is allowing that individual to exercise his freedom of religion, it is not an endorsement of religion by the government.
 
Breaking news, from the Washington Post:
State Supreme Court justices overruled Chief Justice Roy Moore on Thursday and directed that his Ten Commandments monument be removed from its public site in the Alabama Judicial Building.

The senior associate justice, Gorman Houston, said the eight associate justices instructed the building's manager to "take all steps necessary to comply ... as soon as practicable."
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Cinorjer said:
I disagree, for the good of the country he should NOT comply, the ACLU and the Supreme Court are engaging in judicial tyranny. There needs to be another civil war, the un-constitutional elements of America have to be eliminated if our country is going to be the free country that it was intended to be.

For "the good of the country" there needs to be a civil war? Certain "elements" have to be eliminated so this can be a free country? Wecome to Fanaticism 101, folks.
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State's rights is fanaticism?
 
Mr Manifesto said:
JIHAD!

Oops... Wrong religion. Uhm, what's X-ian for 'Jihad'?


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That's what id expect from a bigot like you, but really, this has nothing to do with religion.
 
Tony said:


State's rights is fanaticism?
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It depends on how far you push it. I'm sure one can be a moderate state's rightist. Wanting to start a (another?) civil war over it could quality it as fanaticism, but I guess one person's fanaticism is another's well reasoned response.
 
Further info from the Post article:
The associate justices wrote that they are "bound by solemn oath to follow the law, whether they agree or disagree with it."
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Their seven-page order, signed by all eight, was issued about 10 a.m.
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The monument has not bee [sic] viewed as a partisan issue. Moore is a Republican; seven of the eight associate justices also are Republicans.
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Partisan or not, the political backlash is expected to be considerable. One can probably expect demands for recalls, impeachments, constitutional amendments, and the like. Surely the eight members of the Court were aware that many people would be upset, but they acted anyway. Courageous.
 
reprise said:
What really confuses me about the CSS in the US is that people are allowed to swear their oath to the court on the Bible in the US - I don't understand why that is allowed.
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It isn't required. At least, I can say for sure it isn't in West Virginia. I tried a lot of cases in a rural county and I've never seen anyone get sworn in with a bible, or any other book.
 
Shinytop said:


Allowing an individual to swear an oath with their hand on the Bible is allowing that individual to exercise his freedom of religion, it is not an endorsement of religion by the government.
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My concern about swearing oaths on a religious doctrine is that it conveys the impression that the person's duty to tell the truth to the deity that doctrine represents is superior to their allegiance to tell the truth to the court - otherwise, why not simply take an affirmation to tell the truth without involving the deity.

For similar reasons, I dislike political leaders swearing their oath of office on the Bible - their oath is to the people of their nation and therefore the appropriate document on which it should be sword is the constitution of that nation.
 
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