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Merged Chick Tracts

ScottXSI said:
So it turns out the evil Catholics are behind Islam, I should have known!!!

Well anyway, how much of that comic is actually true? (the stuff about Islam)
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I wonder. But I'm not curious enough to actually do any research.

I suspect most of his "facts" will be about as "true" as describing someone who live many hundreds of years before the reformation as a "catholic" rather than simply a "christian".

By the way, I too can happily report I have never heard of Jack Chick anywhere other than here on JREF.


OK I was wrong - I was just curious enough to look up KhadijaWP.

According to Chick, she was a 40 year old catholic widow.
According to WP, she was 25-40 years old: "Correlation of her age with that of her daughter Fatimah does not support the view that she was as much as fifteen years older than Muhammad", unmarried and "was said to have neither believed in nor worshipped idols".

Edit to add: The "Catholic cousin", WaraquahWP is described as being an Ebionite: "a Jewish sect that regarded Jesus as the Messiah but not as divine". Chick Fail.
 
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I've run into his tracts on occassion. Slipped under a windshield wiper, into my locker at the gym (a long time ago) and once under my office door. They're creepier when encountered in this fashion.
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
Just imagine you're Jack chick for a moment.

You know the world is ruled by the devil. Everything, everyone in power, is directly or indirectly controlled by satan. Remeber, even George W Bush was not True Christian enough for Jack, never mind his cabinet.
Not only that, but everyone and everything is directly out to get him because he is one of the few trying to bring out the only true way of god, and give the disproportionate difference between sinners and saved satan can put as much helpers on that as he pleases.
Since his god knows all and constantly monitors his mind, he can never even think sinful thoughts. And nearly everything fun in the world to him is sinful. The only outlet he has is writing his tracts so he can convert one more little soul.
If he manages to stay the course and die a true christian, his reward will be a heaven where he will be even more closely monitored by a spiteful angry god whose only motive seems to be punishing people. And he'll share this heaven with people like himself and an assorted amount of murderers/peadophiles/rapists and what not who are never punished for their awful crimes because in the last minute of their live they uttered a magic phrase. At the same time you know that a massive amount of good people are burning in hell because you were not a strong enough preacher to convert them. And for the rest of eternity you're NEVER allowed to enjoy sex again. Ever. (after all, no need to procreate in heaven, and that's the only reason for sex)

If you truly believed this, would you be happy? Or sane?
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My very first post here was (IIRC) called "Chick Tracts ruined my Childhood". Scoff all you want about his infantile and paranoid rantings, but there are quite a few adults in this world who think the same way.

My family was one of them. We lived a harshly fundamental Christian life all through my childhood. Chick Tracts were considered a treat to us because they were actually illustrated (usually we were only preached to from the scary parts of the Bible, which had no illustrations). I was terrified of the outside world, terrified of my thoughts, terrified of God.

In my abusive, harsh upbringing we were beaten a lot for very minor things, such as the time when i was 7 and brought home a grape flavored Bubble-Pop. we were not allowed candy AT ALL, so i panicked and tried to hide that damned thing somewhere in the house no one would find it (I never even thought of eating it, that would have been akin to spitting on my parents). Well, my parents found out anyway and lined us all up for an inquisition. 5 terrified young kids, two religiously obsessed parents pacing back and forth, thundering hellfire and brimstone on us while my Dad thwacked the leather strap against his leg.

I collapsed and confessed, and was beaten.

The charge wasn't bringing candy home, it was DISOBEYING THE PARENTS (and subsequently lying and covering up).

Try living like that through your formative years. Chick Tracts come to life. We were all evil sinners and had to work feverishly to atone for our miserable existence.

There's a lot of crazy in the world.
 
Nursefoxfire said:
My very first post here was (IIRC) called "Chick Tracts ruined my Childhood". Scoff all you want about his infantile and paranoid rantings, but there are quite a few adults in this world who think the same way.

My family was one of them. We lived a harshly fundamental Christian life all through my childhood. Chick Tracts were considered a treat to us because they were actually illustrated (usually we were only preached to from the scary parts of the Bible, which had no illustrations). I was terrified of the outside world, terrified of my thoughts, terrified of God.

In my abusive, harsh upbringing we were beaten a lot for very minor things, such as the time when i was 7 and brought home a grape flavored Bubble-Pop. we were not allowed candy AT ALL, so i panicked and tried to hide that damned thing somewhere in the house no one would find it (I never even thought of eating it, that would have been akin to spitting on my parents). Well, my parents found out anyway and lined us all up for an inquisition. 5 terrified young kids, two religiously obsessed parents pacing back and forth, thundering hellfire and brimstone on us while my Dad thwacked the leather strap against his leg.

I collapsed and confessed, and was beaten.

The charge wasn't bringing candy home, it was DISOBEYING THE PARENTS (and subsequently lying and covering up).

Try living like that through your formative years. Chick Tracts come to life. We were all evil sinners and had to work feverishly to atone for our miserable existence.

There's a lot of crazy in the world.
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I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I scoffed at him.
I genuinly pity him and those that live this lifestyle and force it upon their children.
What I tried to convey in my post is that it must be horrible to actually think like this, a mix of constant paranoia and feeling that you're a horrible person deserving hellfire because you're born.
And your post reinforced that feeling. I can't imagine living like that, but I can sort of imagine that anyone who truly believes that all his life would not remain fully sane.
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I scoffed at him.
I genuinly pity him and those that live this lifestyle and force it upon their children.
What I tried to convey in my post is that it must be horrible to actually think like this, a mix of constant paranoia and feeling that you're a horrible person deserving hellfire because you're born.
And your post reinforced that feeling. I can't imagine living like that, but I can sort of imagine that anyone who truly believes that all his life would not remain fully sane.
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This is true of the dedicated CTwinkies also. Dreading the constant surveillance of the government.
I guess it gives them some self esteem to tell themselves anyone actually gives a **** about their paranoid ravings.
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I scoffed at him.
I genuinly pity him and those that live this lifestyle and force it upon their children.
What I tried to convey in my post is that it must be horrible to actually think like this, a mix of constant paranoia and feeling that you're a horrible person deserving hellfire because you're born.
And your post reinforced that feeling. I can't imagine living like that, but I can sort of imagine that anyone who truly believes that all his life would not remain fully sane.
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I'm so sorry, I mis-represented your quote up there! I actually meant to say that I agreed with what you'd written, and that your hypothetical situation was an actuality in my life (and then I'd proceed to tell my story).

And I'm not bashing the scoffers, if I hadn't lived it, I'd be scoffing too!
 
Andrew Wiggin said:
Magic 8 ball says 'signs point to yes'. Too bad he's such an artist. His talents are wasted on the dreck he turns out. Wish he'd do some better porn, like the family of god tracts had.
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The good art was never his; it was always Fred Carter's. I really wonder if Fred ever did anything else (that wasn't insane religious weirdo-ism)... his work was/is AMAZING. Here's an entire list of all the tracts he did.
 
For an interesting look at Chick, there's the pdf 'zine on comics, The Imp (NSFW), an issue which covers the man. Pretty interesting, surprisingly dense reading, and well done.
 
Bad Bob according to Jack Chick

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0021/0021_01.asp

One of the many problems I have with tripe like this is that in this tract Chicky shows a man who has done horrible things all of his life. Pushed dope, vandalized property and made peoples life miserable but he goes the Jesus route and is saved. In another of ol Chickys tracts an old couple who has helped people in Africa all of their lives go to hell for not worshipping jesus properly.

I'm going to post select tracts each Monday with comments until the interesting ones run out.
 
Cainkane1 said:
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0021/0021_01.asp

One of the many problems I have with tripe like this is that in this tract Chicky shows a man who has done horrible things all of his life. Pushed dope, vandalized property and made peoples life miserable but he goes the Jesus route and is saved. In another of ol Chickys tracts an old couple who has helped people in Africa all of their lives go to hell for not worshipping jesus properly.

I'm going to post select tracts each Monday with comments until the interesting ones run out.
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May I suggest that you check to see if there already is a thread about each particular tract before starting a new one? As I said, I have no problem with individual tracts receiving new threads as long as there isn't an existing thread.
 
Cainkane1 said:
Ok this flopped. Looking over the nearly 100 tracts I see just a few worth comment. I'll do one or two more and then quit.
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Take heart. He comes out with new ones once in a while. I'm sure that he'll make a doozy soon. :)
 
The illustrations in this one are superb. The textures, the gray tones, the use of ink-and-brush, the realism of the faces and figures are all expertly and intelligently rendered. This is the same artist who drew the anti-Catholic screed, but different from the cartoonist who drew Stinky the Little Devil in the tract about Halloween.

The story here is interesting as well. I find very little to be objectionable here; even as a liberal agnostic I recognize that belief in God (or a god, or gods) can have a transformative effect on one's psyche and emotions. Here the walking hairy terror known as "Bad Bob" finds Jesus after a harrowing near-death experience, and evidently changes his ways for the better. This is not a bad thing.

Taken in and of itself, irrespective of Chick's numerous other profoundly absurd morality tales, I find that this one has a ring of truth even in the midst of its corny, hamfisted melodrama.
 
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