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Chemtrails

Yeah, I have saved the link. Although I doubt I will bother to enter. I already see the normal behaviour whenever critics come along.

Anyway, I see nothing interesting on the site. Timble, what is it you find interesting there? All I see is the usual nonsense. The best is the "mysterious dark line". Shadow of a contrail against a lower hazy layer :rolleyes:.

Hans
 
One chemmie swore to me that she saw one of those black beams shoot out from the front of a plane. "You saw black light," I asked? Well, maybe it was deep purple. "You saw light 'shoot out' at some speed you could discern," I asked? It went down Nowhere Hill from there.

Same folks who can judge the height and size of an unknown object, I guess.

~~ Paul
 
The woman I referred to in my previous post has taken exception to that post, accusing me of both libel and slander. I told her that I would publicly apologize for any errors in the post, even though she is not mentioned by name. I am having some difficulty determining exactly what errors I made.

I could post her reaction, but it would require heavy use of asterisks. Please stand by while I try to determine my mistakes and correct them.

~~ Paul
 
MRC_Hans said:


Anyway, I see nothing interesting on the site. Timble, what is it you find interesting there? :rolleyes: .

Hans
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I just put it in for the benefit of completists who wanted links to the currently active sites.

Sorry, I forget to put :rolleyes: after interesting.

Though it is intriguing why some people think that pollution and the weather is some sort of conspiracy.

I'm surprised some of its more vociferous members haven't popped up here.
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
The woman I referred to in my previous post has taken exception to that post, accusing me of both libel and slander.
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Both, eh? That's a neat trick.

How does she know that you posted it?
 
She must lurk on this forum.

She won't give me a concise list of the mistakes that I made in my statement, so I'll just apologize in general for any mistakes, even though I don't know what they are.

I've also been accused of spamming people with email, but no one will tell me who I've spammed. So I apologize to them, too. I'll have to see a doctor about this missing time problem.

Edited to add: I wonder if I'll see the above paragraph quoted out of context as evidence that I admitted to spamming people with email?

~~ Paul
 
Update: The email spamming turns out to be the reincarnation of a problem that happened 11 months ago. There is an email message in limbo, which the other person's ISP keeps sending me over and over. Long ago, my ISP installed a filter to reject the message, so it would not clog up my in box. That was the last I heard of it until now. Suddenly, the other person is getting the rejection messages from that filter. I'm not sure why that hasn't been happening constantly for many months.

It was pretty obvious what was going on if someone had bothered to read all the header items in the messages.

~~ Paul
 
Timble said:


I just put it in for the benefit of completists who wanted links to the currently active sites.

Sorry, I forget to put :rolleyes: after interesting.

Though it is intriguing why some people think that pollution and the weather is some sort of conspiracy.

I'm surprised some of its more vociferous members haven't popped up here.
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Youp, I sure would like some of them do that. Then again, it wouldn't be pretty to watch, heheheh.

Hans

Edited to add: I am registering on their forum. Now. let's see...
 
MRC_Hans said:
Youp, I sure would like some of them do that. Then again, it wouldn't be pretty to watch, heheheh.

Hans

Edited to add: I am registering on their forum. Now. let's see...
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Has being banned from forums become an addiction then?:)
 
Well, actually, it's a new experience to me. After many years on different forums, often with heated discussions, I've just this last couple of months been banned from two forums for simply having an opinion. Interesting it is.

I don't expect it to become an addiction, though, but thanks for reminding me; I'd better register at least one sockpuppet there, just in case.... ;)

Hans
 
Some logistics

The chemtrail community assumes that some systematic clandestine operation is going on, spraying large areas of the USA (and other countries) with some kind of chemicals.

I thought it would be interesting to figure out the logistics of such an operation (I will later make this available as a spreadsheet):

Let us assume that an area of 2000 by 3000 km is to be covered (this roughly corresponds to the size of the United States). (1 mile ~ 1.5 km) Let us further assume that spraying is done in parallel strokes 3 km apart. On average, one spraying per week is performed (some areas more, some less), and a plane is in the air 20 hours a day, leaving 4 hours for refueling, reloading and maintanance. Two crews of 3 take turns flying the plane, spending 10 hours a day flying. For each plane, there is a ground crew of 7, including maintenance personnel, supply personnel, traffic control and planning, supply purchasing and logistics, and management. Now we can start to calulate:

The grid flown, adding 20% overhead for flying to and from the operational area, relocation of planes, etc. amounts to:

124,800,000 kilometers flown per annum.

Assuming a cruise speed of 900km/h, this requires:

138.667 flying hours.

Each plane flies 20 hours a day, so allowing for holidays, downtime due to weather and major maintenance, we assume 200 active days per year. So the operation requires a fleet of:

35 planes.

And the manpower:

451 persons.

Fuel consumption:

1.664.000 tons.

Rather a big operation :eek:. I wonder how they keep it secret?

Hans
 
I have to confess that I'm too lazy to spend a lot of time finding this out but what are the supposed reasons for all the governments of the world to spray it's populations with chemicals. And then I don't mean carbon dioxide and water which obviously are found in large quantities in the exhaust of any combustion engine.

Spraying testosterone inhibitors would probably be a good idea on countries where genocides takes place though if it could be done.
 
Hans, you forgot the material to make the chemtrails, and the logistics for supplying it, and the amount your average plane could carry, etc., etc.

Just how much material do you need to make a lot of very long persistent trails in the sky?

Hint.....it's an awful lot. :D
 
Hans, don't forget about the manufacturers of the spray equipment and the chemicals, the truck drivers, the equipment installers, the chemical loaders, maintenance personal, air traffic controllers, and all the government folks who manage the program.

~~ Paul
 
LTC and Paul: Certainly! And the entire command structure, but those are speculative as long as we don't know wtf they are supposed to be spraying, or why. The logistics on flying the needed mileage, OTOH, is solid fact (and I have included a, very conservative, estimate of the ground crew).

Fact is, the operation needed is larger than many airlines.

Hans :p
 
Also, if the operation is supposed to cause any effects (and why else conduct it?), like climate and health changes, like these people seem to claim, think of all the doctors and meteorologists worldwide, who will have to be included in the conspiracy to keep them from publishing awkward data. Not to mention civilian and military air traffic controllers.

Hans
 
And all the 911 operators who have to ignore calls from chemtrail spotters, so as not to populate the call logs with evidence.

Those poor 911 operators also have to ignore all the calls from the families and neighbors of the millions of alien abductees, too. Whew, what a job!

~~ Paul
 
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