Chemtrails again

[Swing Dangler]

Double speak and pretend confusion to evade the question is a technique that fools no one, SD.

Remember, your buddies are watching. You're really not very good at this, you know.....

Star in dodge ball? What exactly is the chemtrail conspiracy?

Spraying chemicals to a)depopulate b)repopulate c)vaccinate d)control the climate/weather e)mind control f)mirrors so the aliens can admire themselves g)sun block?

I'm voting for d), climate control. Great for us, bad for our enemies! See Air Force Document here.

 

[CurtC]

I imagine that one day he will be doing this from a padded room while wearing a straight jacket.

Just a nitpick - it's straitjacket, as in dire straits.

I agree with Stellafane - I too love the chemtrail topic because it's such an accurate marker for insanity.

 

[Reheat]

What exactly is the chemtrail conspiracy?

You've made several post in the thread and you ask this ridiculous question? Speaking of reading comprehension problems, this is the epitome.

Thanks for participating. You can go back to your Lego Blocks now.

 

[beachnut]

moving the goal posts award for today... goes to... swing, not understanding chemtrails; just move them posts.

 

[Corsair 115]

So you presume to tell us that you know what a contrail does not look like, Tippit?

Let's test you on your astounding scientific knowledge. Demonstrate what a contrail must look like under all atmospheric conditions.

How exactly are they easily distinguishable?

Ok, let's see one of your photographs?

We really are open minded here, if you convince us with evidence.

Quoting the above in the hope that perhaps Tippit will respond to these queries.

 

[Tippit]

So you presume to tell us that you know what a contrail does not look like, Tippit?

Let's test you on your astounding scientific knowledge. Demonstrate what a contrail must look like under all atmospheric conditions.

I'm not going to get into your pedantic argument about what a contrail should or shouldn't look like. It's obvious to me when a plane is spraying, and when it isn't.

Contrails don't linger for hours, and then dissipate into long hazy trails forming large grid patterns. I actually stood outside and observed multiple planes flying in criss-crossing patterns, they were obviously not commercial planes even though they were at very high altitude, because we don't usually get much air traffic here.

In contrast, I saw a contrail a week or so later, and it was no longer than perhaps 20-30 lengths of the plane itself, and quickly dissipated under the same conditions.

I made a photobucket of this spraying, it's important to realize that the skies were clear blue before the planes began.

http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/Tippit_photos/Chemtrails/

I'm not contending they're spraying some sort of mass depopulation agent, I'm saying, they're spraying something and I haven't given any consent.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

I saw some chemtrails after eating those bacon burritos...Carnage everywhere.

 

[Corsair 115]

I'm not going to get into your pedantic argument about what a contrail should or shouldn't look like. It's obvious to me when a plane is spraying, and when it isn't.

Evasion noted.

Contrails don't linger for hours, and then dissipate into long hazy trails forming large grid patterns.

How do you know that? What's the basis for that statement?

 

[Unsecured Coins]

and exactly how much chemicals would it take to make a hundred mile long trail?
How do they fit them in the plane?
why do I feel like this guy needs to watch my video?

 

[Drudgewire]

Evasion noted.

How do you know that? What's the basis for that statement?

Certainly not the Air Force.

Claim: Long-lasting contrails are something new and they have abnormal characteristics.

Fact: Contrails can remain visible for very long periods of time with the lifetime a function of the temperature, humidity, winds, and aircraft exhaust characteristics. Contrails can form many shapes as they are dispersed by horizontal and vertical wind shear. Sunlight refracted or reflected from contrails can produce vibrant and eye-catching colors and patterns. Observation and scientific analysis of contrails and their duration date back to at least 1953.

USAF Document: Contrails pdf (page 11)

 

[bje]

I'm not going to get into your pedantic argument about what a contrail should or shouldn't look like. It's obvious to me when a plane is spraying, and when it isn't.

Sorry, Tippit, it is your claim what that you can tell the difference just by looking at them. Let me remind you what you claimed:

I've seen contrails under similar atmospheric conditions and they are easily distinguishable. The photographs don't lie.

Obviously, you believe you can tell the difference just by looking at them. So, tell us HOW you know what a contrail should not look like.

Contrails don't linger for hours,...

Yes, they can and do all the time. They are known as "persistent contrails." See: http://tinyurl.com/yrgb2z

...and then dissipate into long hazy trails forming large grid patterns.

Contrails do not form grid patterns. Contrails are formed by jet engines. Persistent contrails stay around long enough for jets crossing paths at different times to leave a grid-like pattern. Basic stuff.

I actually stood outside and observed multiple planes flying in criss-crossing patterns, they were obviously not commercial planes even though they were at very high altitude, because we don't usually get much air traffic here.

It's apparent you don't know much about air traffic, aircraft, or contrails. I live under a major corridor of flights from the U.S. toward Europe, Asia, and Africa. On days where atmospheric conditions are conducive for persistent contrail formation, the sky is full of them for hours. There are days with no contrails at all, days with quickly dissipating contrails, days with interrupted contrails. I am aircraft enthusiast and I have been watching planes, jets, and contrails for decades.

In contrast, I saw a contrail a week or so later, and it was no longer than perhaps 20-30 lengths of the plane itself, and quickly dissipated under the same conditions.

Perfectly normal for contrails.

I made a photobucket of this spraying, it's important to realize that the skies were clear blue before the planes began.

http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/Tippit_photos/Chemtrails/

You took photos of contrails, period. You are unable to tell us what a contrail does not look like. You have no evidence to present us.

I'm not contending they're spraying some sort of mass depopulation agent, I'm saying, they're spraying something and I haven't given any consent.

You can say anything you want, but it is foolish to say you see chemtrails when you are just looking at normal contrails and cannot tell us what contrails are not supposed to look like. Since persistent contrails have been seen since World War II when bombers were able to achieve altitudes where contrails form, you've got more than sixty years of explaining to do, Tippit. Apparently, when bombers were bombing Germany from high altitude, it was really to spread "chemtrails."

Now, here is a tough question for you, Tippit, if you want to persist with your "chemtrail" silliness. WHO sprays chemtrails and from what type(s) of aircraft?

 

[Tippit]

Did anyone actually look at my photos, and honestly conclude that those were condensation trails? I saw multiple planes in close proximity flying in criss-crossing patterns before I decided to photograph them, and again, the sky was clear blue before they arrived.

Perhaps a better question is in order. How would we know that we are being sprayed with chemicals if everyone is under the assumption that every jet-created pattern in the sky is really just a condensation trail? What are the scientifically demonstrable physical constraints as to what could possibly constitute a condensation trail, and what couldn't?

 

[beachnut]

Contrails don't linger for hours, and then dissipate into long hazy trails forming large grid patterns. I actually stood outside and observed multiple planes flying in criss-crossing patterns, they were obviously not commercial planes even though they were at very high altitude, because we don't usually get much air traffic here.

How can you without evidence say such a ridiculous thing. There is no spraying, you have got to get some knowledge and stop making up what contrail can, and can not do. It depends on the conditions. Like rain vs clear skies.

BUSTED. LOL, you are funny. Where do you live, [now] we forgot to turn off the dissipation time constant. /nwo

Did anyone actually look at my photos, and honestly conclude that those were condensation trails? I saw multiple planes in close proximity flying in criss-crossing patterns before I decided to photograph them, and again, the sky was clear blue before they arrived.

Perhaps a better question is in order. How would we know that we are being sprayed with chemicals if everyone is under the assumption that every jet-created pattern in the sky is really just a condensation trail? What are the scientifically demonstrable physical constraints as to what could possibly constitute a condensation trail, and what couldn't?

Sorry, you are wrong. It is water vapor. And the engines today are 98 percent cleaner than the engines when I was a kid. And the contrails have not changed much. You are joking right?

 

[Unsecured Coins]

Did anyone actually look at my photos, and honestly conclude that those were condensation trails? I saw multiple planes in close proximity flying in criss-crossing patterns before I decided to photograph them, and again, the sky was clear blue before they arrived.

Perhaps a better question is in order. How would we know that we are being sprayed with chemicals if everyone is under the assumption that every jet-created pattern in the sky is really just a condensation trail? What are the scientifically demonstrable physical constraints as to what could possibly constitute a condensation trail, and what couldn't?

Have you ever tried to like, you know... stand under one and see if you got wet? And if you did, would you go get it analyzed to see what it was?

 

[Jonnyclueless]

Did anyone actually look at my photos, and honestly conclude that those were condensation trails? I saw multiple planes in close proximity flying in criss-crossing patterns before I decided to photograph them, and again, the sky was clear blue before they arrived.

Perhaps a better question is in order. How would we know that we are being sprayed with chemicals if everyone is under the assumption that every jet-created pattern in the sky is really just a condensation trail? What are the scientifically demonstrable physical constraints as to what could possibly constitute a condensation trail, and what couldn't?

Yes, I did. Nice pictures of contrails.

The issues of why chemtrails are simply impossible have been discussed to death here, so you can do a search to find that info. And otherwise all you have is a baseless assumption that those contrails are chemicals simply because different ones disperse in different ways. As if the many variables involved should have no effect on them.

 

[Reheat]

What are the scientifically demonstrable physical constraints as to what could possibly constitute a condensation trail, and what couldn't?

What on earth ever gave you the idea that the contrails could be anything besides,...uh...... contrails? You want US to prove a negative?

This is so mind boggling stupid I need to take a break for awhile.

 

[Tippit]

Obviously, you believe you can tell the difference just by looking at them. So, tell us HOW you know what a contrail should not look like.

Contrails look like the one I described seeing a week or two later, in my previous post. I would have taken a picture of that too, to illustrate the stark contrast.

Yes, they can and do all the time. They are known as "persistent contrails." See: http://tinyurl.com/yrgb2z

I'm sorry, but that doesn't describe what I saw.

Contrails do not form grid patterns. Contrails are formed by jet engines. Persistent contrails stay around long enough for jets crossing paths at different times to leave a grid-like pattern. Basic stuff.

I saw multiple planes in the same proximity all spewing particulate at the same time. When I decided to come back out and photograph them later, the planes were gone.

It's apparent you don't know much about air traffic, aircraft, or contrails. I live under a major corridor of flights from the U.S. toward Europe, Asia, and Africa. On days where atmospheric conditions are conducive for persistent contrail formation, the sky is full of them for hours. There are days with no contrails at all, days with quickly dissipating contrails, days with interrupted contrails. I am aircraft enthusiast and I have been watching planes, jets, and contrails for decades.

I'm sorry that I'm not an air traffic expert like yourself. I live in a fairly rural area, and I'd not seen anything like what I documented in those photos before, ever.

Now, here is a tough question for you, Tippit, if you want to persist with your "chemtrail" silliness. WHO sprays chemtrails and from what type(s) of aircraft?

How would I know who was doing the spraying? The planes were far to high for me to observe any markings. I hadn't arrived here with a prepackaged chemtrail theory to sell anyone, I merely saw the thread and decided to share my own experiences, and photographs.

Your explanations for what you think I saw are not satisfying.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Contrails look like the one I described seeing a week or two later, in my previous post. I would have taken a picture of that too, to illustrate the stark contrast.

Just out of interest, Tippit, how do you know that the ones you say are contrails, aren't actually chemtrails, and vice versa? In other words, how can you tell you haven't got them the wrong way round?

Dave

 

[Tippit]

Yes, I did. Nice pictures of contrails.

The issues of why chemtrails are simply impossible have been discussed to death here, so you can do a search to find that info. And otherwise all you have is a baseless assumption that those contrails are chemicals simply because different ones disperse in different ways. As if the many variables involved should have no effect on them.

Are you really claiming that it's impossible for airplanes to spray chemicals at high altitudes which may be confused with contrails?

My assumption that they aren't contrails is because I've seen contrails my entire life. I know what they look like, how long it takes for them to dissipate, and how much area is affected. I also know what is typical for air traffic where I live, and what is atypical.

 

[Hokulele]

Are you really claiming that it's impossible for airplanes to spray chemicals at high altitudes which may be confused with contrails?

Are you really claiming it is possible? Care to offer some evidence?

My assumption that they aren't contrails is because I've seen contrails my entire life. I know what they look like, how long it takes for them to dissipate, and how much area is affected. I also know what is typical for air traffic where I live, and what is atypical.

Wait a minute. Anything atypical for an area can't possibly be due to weather, but has to be a government conspiracy? All right then, someone had better explain this one to me.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22902118/