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Chemtrails again

Tippit said:
The idea that what some call "persistent contrails" are really chemical trails isn't nearly as scary as some of the things that I know to be true beyond a shadow of a doubt. Not much scares me anymore.
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Then why are you so afraid to admit you have no evidence for "chemtrails", Tippit? Are you afraid of admitting that you fell for chemtrail conspiracy theories?
 
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bje said:
And you want us to accept that chemicals are being sprayed on us by nefarious elements in a secret program in broad daylight instead of at night when no one could see them?

How so, Tippit?
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We don't even need to go this far. Why deliver via air in the first place. It would be much more effective to just put the chemicals in the water supply.

On the other hand, since a high altitude aerial delivery of an aerosol would be extremely ineffective, maybe that's evidence that it is what they contend and designed to make people stupid. Empirical evidence indicates it only affects a few.... That's the SmOkIng GuN pwoof!!!!!!
 
Tippit said:
It's obvious to me when a plane is spraying, and when it isn't.
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It is obvious to anyone, except even when you can't see a contrail, there is still pollution being sprayed.

Tippit said:
Contrails don't linger for hours, and then dissipate into long hazy trails forming large grid patterns. I actually stood outside and observed multiple planes flying in criss-crossing patterns, they were obviously not commercial planes even though they were at very high altitude, because we don't usually get much air traffic here.
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Contrails can last all day. There is continuous cloud cover from them over many countries because of the magnitude of planes flying the same routes.

Tippit said:
In contrast, I saw a contrail a week or so later, and it was no longer than perhaps 20-30 lengths of the plane itself, and quickly dissipated under the same conditions.
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Right now I can see short, temporary contrails from high altitude jets overhead. If the weather was different (at 40,000 feet) there would be lingering contrails. I live in a high traffic area, both military and civilian jets. They are always flying. On days with no contrails you can't even see them. On days with the right weather conditions, they form an overcast.

Tippit said:
I'm not contending they're spraying some sort of mass depopulation agent, I'm saying, they're spraying something and I haven't given any consent.
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That is actually true. Jets leave a trail of pollution behind them, all the time. And nobody asks for permission, much less worries about it. Air traffic has always polluted.

But even if people were complaining about just the pollution from jets, they would get treated badly.

After 911 when the skies were clear, measurements found weather changes are directly attributable to contrails, visible or not. That much cloud cover changes both the heating during the day, and the cooling at night. During WWII contrails were considered as a weapon, to block sunlight over Germany, to destroy crop production.

Research found it was cheaper to just drop bombs than to try and block out the sun.

Check out this satellite photo.
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/images/fgz/science/contrails040595a.gif

On a bad day commercial flights create an overcast over large areas of the US and Europe. It isn't on purpose, but it sure as hell effects those below.
 
After thinking about it, pilots avoid flying through another flights trail, even when there are no contrails. It smells bad.
 
Reality Believer said:
Chemtrails are real man! Here is one spraying dihydrogen monoxide :eye-poppi
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Actually a very interesting shot. Here we have a plane actually spraying an aerosol (hitting the airstream at even that low flying speed turns the water into an aerosol), and what do we see? A long trail that hangs suspended there for minutes or hours, like the Chemtrailers claim is the hallmark of a chemtrail (as opposed to a contrail)? Nah, we see it drop and spread in a matter of seconds. Even faster than a short-lived contrail.

Bookmarked for further reference :D.

Hans
 
robinson said:
After thinking about it, pilots avoid flying through another flights trail, even when there are no contrails. It smells bad.
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That's interesting. I've never known anyone to actually stick their head out the window to check. Is that the reason for the angry expression on the face in your avatar?
 
Reheat said:
...On the other hand, since a high altitude aerial delivery of an aerosol would be extremely ineffective, maybe that's evidence that it is what they contend and designed to make people stupid. Empirical evidence indicates it only affects a few.... That's the SmOkIng GuN pwoof!!!!!!
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(Bolding mine)That's why this flavor of woo never made sense to me. It wouldn't work! I'm always reminded of Milton William Cooper of Behold a Pale Horse "fame" when I see this paranoid chemtrail nonsense.
 
If you had ever been in an aircraft, you would know that outside air is used to breathe, hence you can smell what a contrail smells like, without opening a window.

Do not insult other posters.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Cuddles
 
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Corsair 115 said:
Here's a question: when did aircraft begin doing this alleged widespread laying of chemtrails? Ten years ago? Twenty? Fifty?
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Are there date and time stamps on covert programs if chemtrails are indeed a covert program?

Robinson-If you had ever been in an aircraft, you would know that outside air is used to breathe, hence you can smell what a contrail smells like, without opening a window.

Dumbass.
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Hmm being in the same plane that produces a contrail so there for you can smell the contrail that exits behind you? Welcome to Stundie!
 
Swing Dangler said:
Hmm being in the same plane that produces a contrail so there for you can smell the contrail that exits behind you? Welcome to Stundie!
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Nice reading comprehension. Obviously you failed to notice the exchange as to why pilots do not fly through other contrails.
 
robinson said:
If you had ever been in an aircraft, you would know that outside air is used to breathe, hence you can smell what a contrail smells like, without opening a window.

Dumbass.
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Heh, been sniffing a lot of contrails lately robinson?
 
Swing Dangler said:
Are there date and time stamps on covert programs if chemtrails are indeed a covert program?
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Possibly not. But there would be a date and time stamp on when contrails began behaving anomalously. People would notice. If it is your position that people would NOT notice, then why is there a chemtrail conspiracy theory at all?
 
MRC_Hans said:
Actually a very interesting shot. Here we have a plane actually spraying an aerosol (hitting the airstream at even that low flying speed turns the water into an aerosol), and what do we see? A long trail that hangs suspended there for minutes or hours, like the Chemtrailers claim is the hallmark of a chemtrail (as opposed to a contrail)? Nah, we see it drop and spread in a matter of seconds. Even faster than a short-lived contrail.

Bookmarked for further reference :D.

Hans
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Here is more damning evidence. The NWO is going to have to answer for these crimes! This is an attack, apparently spraying Soylent-Pink :eek:
 
A lesson for Tippit

Tippit likes to claim he's in a rural area without many commercial flights. How well does this claim affect his ability to see contrails from his location?

The first image below is a screen shot of a FlightExplorer display (blue dots) of all commercial and private flights (no military) over the continental U.S. this morning, 4,962 flights at the instant of this screen shot.

In addition the dashed lines display high altitude airways used by commercial aircraft. Aircraft do not always use these airways if ATC directs then otherwise. The screen shot gives an idea of the density of commercial and private aircraft over rural areas during daylight hours.

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The second screen shot below is a zoomed-in image of a specific flight over Pierre, South Dakota, a fairly rural state. The tag shows us that it is Delta Airlines Flight 1003, flying at 38,000 ft, 414 mph, flying from JFK, NY, to Salt Lake City. It also tells us that the aircraft is a Boeing 757 Model 200. A typical flight flying at common altitude over a rural state.

The black circle centered on the aircraft delineates the distance to the horizon from the flight. At 38,000 feet the horizon is 239 statue miles away. One can see from Delta 1003's flight level and location, that the entire state of South Dakota is enclosed in that range ring, but good size chunks of North Dakota and Nebraska, and smaller parts of Minnesota, Iowa, Colorado, and Wyoming.

On good clear days, it is very easy to see contrails that are only 5 degrees above the horizon. What this means is that if Tippit were virtually anywhere in South Dakota, he would have a good chance of seeing the contrail from Delta 1003 on a clear day. It also means that he has a good chance of seeing many aircraft producing contrails when atmospheric conditions are conducive. And if he claims that they are chemtrails, then a very sizable population over a great territory can see them, too.

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Tippit's photos (http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/Tippit_photos/Chemtrails/)
show many contrails that are not overhead but are within 10 degrees to around 45 degrees above the horizon. I am sure he doesn't want to reveal his location to us, but he can see for himself that he can see contrails from quite a distance.
 
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Swing Dangler said:
Are there date and time stamps on covert programs if chemtrails are indeed a covert program?
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U2 spyplane was a covert program. I bet you could find out pretty much everything about it online now swingie

swingie said:
Hmm being in the same plane that produces a contrail so there for you can smell the contrail that exits behind you? Welcome to Stundie!
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You get me everytime with your basic inability to understand anything that is posted. Its too funny.
 
bje said:
Tippit's photos (http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/Tippit_photos/Chemtrails/)
show many contrails that are not overhead but are within 10 degrees to around 45 degrees above the horizon. I am sure he doesn't want to reveal his location to us, but he can see for himself that he can see contrails from quite a distance.
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There you go, trying to reason a man out of a position that he didn't reason himself into. Good luck with that.
 
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