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Chávez - Load up the rubber bullets.

oh, and why did you never look into it?
I have a life. This might come as a surprise to you but I don't live and breath by Chavez.

because you are lookng for scapegoats?
Night and day, why, just look at all of the threads I start about scapegoats. Hell, there are at least... well, two.... that can't be right. Hold on, no, two. I'm sure there are at least three. Ok, since 2002 I've started a few threads and that takes a lot of time.
 
OBL speeches do not need any kind of permission from the CIA, FBI, or any other government agency to be broadcast. And how much the stations broadcast are entirely up to the stations themselves.

And I haven't seen you post anything showing that the Venezuelan station in question had anything to do with planning the coup, or carrying it out.

Inform yourself how it is done ffs.

who do you think is translating the stuff?

oh, shows how much you look in the links i provide, several documentations i linked to, did present it.
or 5 minutes google.....
 
I have a life. This might come as a surprise to you but I don't live and breath by Chavez.

Night and day, why, just look at all of the threads I start about scapegoats. Hell, there are at least... well, two.... that can't be right. Hold on, no, two. I'm sure there are at least three. Ok, since 2002 I've started a few threads and that takes a lot of time.

yeah al the US problems are Chavez fault......
 
The US government actuallyu says very little about Chavez. He's barely on the radar, though Hugo desperately wishes he was Public Enemy #1 here.

LOL, the US government is trying to overthrow him.............................................................
 
yeah al the US problems are Chavez fault......
That's the point. They AREN'T. Most of our problems are our OWN fault. Many are Bush's fault which is why we spend so much time trashing Bush. We are happy to take responsility.

You?
 
Inform yourself how it is done ffs.

who do you think is translating the stuff?

oh, shows how much you look in the links i provide, several documentations i linked to, did present it.
or 5 minutes google.....
You think it's the CIA or FBI that translates OBLs speeches for the US media?

Bizarre.
 
You think it's the CIA or FBI that translates OBLs speeches for the US media?

Bizarre.

yes. and let it independently confim, meanwhile
and who is confirming if they are real or not?
 
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That's the point. They AREN'T. Most of our problems are our OWN fault. Many are Bush's fault which is why we spend so much time trashing Bush. We are happy to take responsility.

You?

you dont take responsibility.....
you dont even take a look into the missdeeds of your CIA......
 
http://www.venezuelafoia.info/english.html

again, take a look, and read the documents.......
Yeah, I do remember those links. Having been a skeptic for a long time I know better than to make a judgement on a single source. Looks interesting. Do you have a contrary website? Just curious.

I'll look into it some more if and when I get time. It wouldn't surprise me my government was imbroiled in something like that.

I've admited that we've made decisions that in hind sight weren't always the best. Then again there often wasn't good choices. Given that 100,000,000 were murdered or killed due to incompetence of Communist regimes the US was rightly concerned about the growing threat.

I know you see things in a black and white fashion DC but it really isn't that simple.
 
you dont take responsibility.....
BS, I criticized Bush and don't blame Chavez for the problems of the last 8 years. I blame America and the leaders and primarily I blame Bush. So, again, BS.

you dont even take a look into the missdeeds of your CIA......
Get over yourself. Are you looking into the missdeeds of Chavez and the Venezuelan government?
 

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