These guys would be excellent example for school on why learning some math and physics understanding is helpful no matter what you are going to do. It would come in handy for SPreston. Have the math experts at p4tf or lcf helped him yet?
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jhunter1163
beer-swilling semiliterate
I posted this little gem over at LCF. The CIT needs to go back to the clubhouse and talk.
That is funny, they are going to fudge it in.
They are just going to work on making one up that fits. Funny they will have to throw out Paik's yellow course, it is a killer. The other ones are just as bad since all the witnesses confirm a straight path and kind of level wings.
This what happen when all you have is hard evidence made up from witness statements. I think the best example of using witness statement correctly are reheat and SPreston estimating the actions of Paik. It confirms the airspeed on the FDR! Funny how some work the truth movement does is used to show their conclusion wrong.
That being said, it is funny after seeing the witnesses specifically confirm the relative bank angles contained in the FDR. This makes it funny as 9/11 truth says the FDR was faked but as more witness statements are seen by all due to 9/11 truth efforts, confirmation of the FDR is seen. One of the witnesses they will used saw 77 coming straight at him for 10 seconds, and he is collaborated by a Marine looking out the window of the Pentagon at 77. As they reveal more false conclusions with witnesses you can find fact that confirm the path 77 really took to knock down the lamp post and hit the Pentagon.
Why do they have a fly over no one ever saw? That is the dumbest idea and their biggest failure.
with CIT and p4t working together, all they need now is SPreston to help more with some math, to fix it up perfect.
Well, I see they didn't come up with any math overnight.
Since Aldo has asked for help all we need now to complete the circle j*** is for Craig Ranke to ask me for help. Sorry, I can't do it. No wonder they are asking for help. Nearly every time they posts the hole gets deeper. It's already so deep they need help to get out, so do this....
I'd say their best option now is to get rid of Robbie as their adviser. He got them into this predicament and can't or won't get them out. They keep mentioning a descent (as if that would help them) and I speculate that came from Robbie. Surely, there is another core member in that pffft group who could help them with the math. Surely, Surely with so many experts there is someone there who could help. If not, and if they will accept my advice, I'd suggest they go to either NASA (you know, the guys who do space related math) or to the top physicists at MIT seeking help.
All you need to do is show them the problem with all of the witnesses statements and ask them to determine a possible flight path. If you do that I have one further piece of advice. Make doubly sure that you note where all the door knobs are located on the way in. That way you won't have as much trouble keeping the door knobs from hitting you in your posterior orifice as they laugh you out of the building!
LOL Dom chimes in with YET ANOTHER gem.
I think anything beyone 1+1 throws Dom off.
Of course though Dom seems to be saying that no math is needed:
I think anything beyone 1+1 throws Dom off.
Of course though Dom seems to be saying that no math is needed:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=59193&t=191706
A W Smith
Philosopher
SPreston claims Paik disproves the "offcial flight path"
What SPreston does'nt know is that a year ago I proved that in fact Paiks flight path could account for the damage path and Craig conceded that point. here ya go preston. This flight path is for you.
SPreston goes on further to say
No. that would be north east. not south.
What SPreston does'nt know is that a year ago I proved that in fact Paiks flight path could account for the damage path and Craig conceded that point. here ya go preston. This flight path is for you.
SPreston goes on further to say
No. that would be north east. not south.
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Of course, it does. Everything he says to include the timing of the explosion supports the recognized correct flight path.
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Attention Cit
I have been really busy this morning in the middle of a move. However, my conscience has been bothering me. You see, Dom and Aldo have both asked me to help them determine the right flight path for NoC to work and I want to, but the math simply won't work. Therefore, I've been scouring my brain trying to determine how I could help. I have finally possibly discovered the answer.
This is all I can come up with at the moment. You see nearly everyone of your witnesses, except Edward Paik are US Government Employees. Lagasse and Brooks are policemen with the Pentagon Protection Force = US Government. Robert Turcois is an AAFES Employee at the Citgo. AAFES=Army, Air Force Exchange Service=US Government. Sean Bolger is an Air Traffic Controller at the Pentagon Helipad=US Government. Wow! Why didn't you notice this before.
Now, I'm not going to explicitly state any conclusions, I'm merely going to suggest that these guy may have been Government plants to discredit the truth movement, you know Psyops/Disinfo. After all, Lloyd England, the DC taxi driver, was a Government shill (according to CIT) so why not actual US Government Employees? It all makes perfect sense.
What happened? The US Government discovered that you guys were snooping and close to discovering that the Pentagon portion of 9/11 was an inside job. Therefore, 6 years after the fact, they persuaded these guys to steer you in the wrong direction, NoC, and you guys fell into the US Government trap. It apparently worked when you guys failed to confirm the aerodynamics to support their statements, an understandable mistake. Now, the entire truth movement has been discredited because you guys fell into a brilliant Government PsyOps scheme.
Your witnesses were very convincing and you were allowed to interview them on US Government Property. See, how it all fits together. None of them have spoken out since as their plan of deception has been working quite well, until now.
Now, I haven't accused anyone of complicity here, nor have I called any of them liars, I'm merely trying to help you, as you nicely requested. Think about it. It has real possibilities of being the truth.
I have been really busy this morning in the middle of a move. However, my conscience has been bothering me. You see, Dom and Aldo have both asked me to help them determine the right flight path for NoC to work and I want to, but the math simply won't work. Therefore, I've been scouring my brain trying to determine how I could help. I have finally possibly discovered the answer.
This is all I can come up with at the moment. You see nearly everyone of your witnesses, except Edward Paik are US Government Employees. Lagasse and Brooks are policemen with the Pentagon Protection Force = US Government. Robert Turcois is an AAFES Employee at the Citgo. AAFES=Army, Air Force Exchange Service=US Government. Sean Bolger is an Air Traffic Controller at the Pentagon Helipad=US Government. Wow! Why didn't you notice this before.
Now, I'm not going to explicitly state any conclusions, I'm merely going to suggest that these guy may have been Government plants to discredit the truth movement, you know Psyops/Disinfo. After all, Lloyd England, the DC taxi driver, was a Government shill (according to CIT) so why not actual US Government Employees? It all makes perfect sense.
What happened? The US Government discovered that you guys were snooping and close to discovering that the Pentagon portion of 9/11 was an inside job. Therefore, 6 years after the fact, they persuaded these guys to steer you in the wrong direction, NoC, and you guys fell into the US Government trap. It apparently worked when you guys failed to confirm the aerodynamics to support their statements, an understandable mistake. Now, the entire truth movement has been discredited because you guys fell into a brilliant Government PsyOps scheme.
Your witnesses were very convincing and you were allowed to interview them on US Government Property. See, how it all fits together. None of them have spoken out since as their plan of deception has been working quite well, until now.
Now, I haven't accused anyone of complicity here, nor have I called any of them liars, I'm merely trying to help you, as you nicely requested. Think about it. It has real possibilities of being the truth.
jaydeehess
Penultimate Amazing
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Aldo won't be doing any of the math, methinks. He flat out stated that the first C130 radar return at 9:32:26 at 300 feet meant that the plane took off AFTER that point, not before
Craig's work isn't much better, but I think it's safe to say they'll run to Rob for him to conjure up some numbers before they even take a stab at it.
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It did , in all truth, boggle my mind when I first read your post. I thoiught you must be saying this incorrectly as it simply makes no sense for a radar return of a plane in the air to precede that aircraft's rising into the sky.
I see now that this is exactly what you are reporting that Aldo said.
<<< sighs>>>>
PB&J
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He did finally concede this after I had to hold his hand and explain "if the plane was at 300' at 9:32:26, where was the plane BEFORE then?"
He got so mad that his next post got him suspended for a week.
Did anyone tell SPreston while he was gloating over an error that was corrected, his error is bigger?
A W Smith
Philosopher
Wonderfull. All he needs to do is move the pentagon north 550 feet so the plane doesn't fly so far north of the fireball it travels directly over the parking lot security gate camera.
Dom said:
Yes we have Dom but there is a problem. None of them are possible. We started with the best possible case scenario. And it didn't work. Now you want us to make the scenario worse? For why?
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So, now Paik is levitating upside down in mid-air so that the aircraft was not sideways as it passed by. Yea, uh huh! I understand CIT.
Paik must be disinfo now too. Geesh! And I thought it was only the Government who conducted PsyOps. It's either that or CIT has the ability to suspend the laws of Physics!
ETA: They need to back off the resolution a little more and we won't be able to even see the earth, let alone the Pentagon!
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jaydeehess
Penultimate Amazing
In addition to Reheat's comment's re: what Paik saw, it strikes me that the plane had better be more than 50 feet above the Navy Annex lest it drag its starboard wing on the roof.
Where is the VDOT tower located with reference to the path illustrated in that pic? Maybe we have to consider that it was the vertical stabilizer that possibly scraped the tower.
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TC329 @ LCF said:
My, my, my, you seem to be getting angry, Domenick. It's unhealthy, settle down, boy.
You see, Domenick, I started out believing the witnesses, EVERYTHING THEY SAID, but when I checked closely there were two things that didn't jive.
1) Most of them (that could see) said the aircraft impacted the Pentagon.
2) They indicated that the flight path was North of the Citgo Station.
I already knew # 1 and # 2 could not both be true. Well, as it turned out when I started calculating the turn/G ability of ANY aircraft, I found that there was no physical way possible (except on Planet X) that an aircraft (as they described it) could perform in the manner they said. I was then left with the logic that # 2 was not true. Math and aerodynamics did it, not me. Why on earth are you blaming me for Sir Isaac Newton's findings and subsequent Law. Did I or one of my ancestors shake that apple fall from the tree?
You see, I tried everything. I didn't just "cherry pick" what the witnesses said, I gave everything a shot and it just didn't work.
It's YOU and your TEAM of investigators, the Internet, and Sir Isaac Newton that have caused disrepute to fall on the heads of YOUR witnesses, not me. YOU and YOUR TEAM did not attempt to verify their testimony as any REAL investigators always do. Instead, your team has spread their story all over the Internet causing disrepute to fall upon them.
That is unless they are DELIBERATE GOVERNMENT PLANTS to destroy your work and your reputation. Can you or any of your investigating team prove these folks are not GOVERNMENT PLANTS? Are you sure? Can you prove it to yourself?
No, Domenick, I haven't proven the "official story" true at all. But, I sure as heck have proven CIT's story WRONG.
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I am flabbergasted and devastated over this! Here, I thought I was trying to help and I'm getting attacked on every Forum on which these guys post.
They admire and protect possible GOVERNMENT PLANTS, but blast my reputation on every front.
I'm trying to do their job for them as a MESSENGER, and I'm getting attacked?
And to think that I was once under the impression that they were in search of teh truth.
They admire and protect possible GOVERNMENT PLANTS, but blast my reputation on every front.
I'm trying to do their job for them as a MESSENGER, and I'm getting attacked?
And to think that I was once under the impression that they were in search of teh truth.
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