Challenge to CIT

[WildCat]

Scanning for math...

For the most part I find quite a few members here to be awfully annoying and while they profess to possess a level of superiour intelligence I find most of the responses to be riddled with ad homs and victory dances. But yes here I am reading through this thread enjoying it yet again. Unfortunately we're only up to page 6 so perhaps I returned too soon.



Can I call you Robert? Reheat just seems so impersonal for an old pal like you. You could just disclose your real first name or I could just randomly insert any first name I please I suppose......

Anyways Tony, let me tell you the next couple months are going to be real real heartwrenching for you when I do release my follow up with Susan. I've made a list of a lot of your concerns and also made sure she saw how Pop Mech/BBC/History Channel portrayed her story. Along with that was my DVD interview with Mrs. McElwain. Needless to say Susan is not upset with me in the least bit because I portrayed her account with 1000% honesty. I can't say the same for the BBC but thats something for Mr. Weick to continually back out of.

But here's where it gets worse for you.

Susan isn't the only interview I've done but time will tell all truths. Naturally I will make note of this and remind you at the proper time. Although it will be quite hard to convince people I've tricked over a dozen people or that they are all liars.



Let's face it your work really is of no value to me. But I tell you what you take the scenario and since your so insistent on determining the exact flight path feel free to work it backwards and present your findings. We will be more than gracious to examine your claims and see how they fit/clash with the eyewitnesses. You do a good job and dinner's on me (figuratively).



Thank you for the not help. I appreciate it. Naturally I will expect you to make a youtube video of yourself personally apologizing to Mrs. McElwain in the near future where her account is corroborated and she is vindicated against the merciless attacks she must endure from hardcore neonazicon bootlickers.

Shame too, you seem a tad more intelligent than a lot of the rift raft. I can't imagine you being a supporting of this neonazicon administration and it's ******** policies.

Perhaps when I release my full Flight 93 documentary you will finally answer the wake up that your fellow citizens have been trying to phone in to you for the last 6 years.

All the best,

Dom

Scan complete, no math to be found!

What's wrong Dominick, math isn't your friend in this case is it?

Your Pentagon flyover is simply impossible, and I can only assume you know this since no one in your group seems to be able to refute the math. Know what this makes the CIT? Liars, frauds, charlatans, snake-oil salesmen. Pathetic losers regarded as a joke even by the incredibly low standards of the truth movement.

It's a hell of a legacy you guys are making for yourselves, I wonder how you'll feel about this 10 years down the road?

 

[Reheat]

Perhaps when I release my full Flight 93 documentary you will finally answer the wake up that your fellow citizens have been trying to phone in to you for the last 6 years.

Greetings Dom,

Oh, I can't wait! Don't make any math errors with your BS or the other 4th of CIT will be next.

Now that you have come and gone, I guess we can get back to the topic of the thread.

 

[A W Smith]

lets let CIT tighten up those turns a bit.

New NoC flight plans brought to you by CIT.

Craig a bit of advice. When you're in a hole trying to get out. stop digging,,, also note the impact point moved to the heliport control tower.

 

[jaydeehess]

Scanning for math...
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Scan complete, no math to be found!

That jumped right out at me too. He was even supplied with an online calculator so that he would not have to take the word of any neonazicon bootlickers. Maybe Craig and Aldo are crunching the numbers and TC will relate the findings when he returns to taunt us some more.

 

[Reheat]

New NoC flight plans brought to you by CIT.

Craig a bit of advice. When you're in a hole trying to get out. stop digging,,, also note the impact point moved to the heliport control tower.


[qimg]http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm89/AWSmith1955/ImPossibleBankFlightPaths.jpg[/qimg]

Somewhere between the blue and red lines (except to the correct impact point) is EXACTLY what I calculated!

That's no good anymore. Not even close. The aircraft MUST BE WINGS LEVEL ABEAM THE CITGO. That's what your witnesses said and that's what you've displayed on your animated .gifs.

All of these lines here show an ultra high G turn with all of your witnesses at the Citgo looking at the TOP of the aircraft as it passed.

 

[Bobert]

DOM,
You are a failure
You are a fraud
You and the rest of the CIT WILL NEVER prove that 911 was an inside job instead you hide behind the computer and brag about all of your evidence BUT YOU D O N O T
have

Edited by tim: 

Masked obscenity - rule 12

.
You debate ON AN INTERNET FORUM for christs sake!
Anyone with even a tiny little microscopic brain realizes the futility in arguing on the internet!
Duuuuuuude PUT UP or SHUT UP!
Take your BS to the authorities!
Take it to the media!
And PLEASE PLEASE don't give me any crap about the media being controlled by the government!
My SIL wrote a book and won a Pulitzer for writing a book about US soldiers killing civilians in a certain war.
She has more guts and conviction in her pucking finger nail then you pathetic fools have in your entire movement.
She received friggin REAL death threats over her work that she has done and continues to do EXPOSING REAL government wrong doing not pretend fantasies like you do.
But you know what Dom after all of the death threats over her real work do you know what she told me?
She said that alot of reporters get more death threats from TRUTHERS then anyone else after talking with truthers!
YOU AND THE CIT ARE NUTS!
YOU HAVE NOTHING
YOU LITTLE MOVIE COMING OUT WILL HAVE NOTHING!
But please Dom keep spending your hours debating on JREF because the more you post the more you prove what a FRAUD you are.
AND BTW ALDO IS A DJ!

Bobert, resorting to abuse and personal attack does not forward your argument, but it does reflect on you. Please desist.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: tim

 

[beachnut]

New NoC flight plans brought to you by CIT.

Craig a bit of advice. When you're in a hole trying to get out. stop digging,,, also note the impact point moved to the heliport control tower.

Is the yellow line the new instant turn? You can't do an instant turn! But I will give them 200 feet or so of turn radius. At stall speed of 160 KIAS, they need 85 degrees of bank and 11.47 Gs. At 200 KIAS 86.5 degrees of bank and 16 Gs. At 300 KIAS (a speed the 757 loves) over 88 degree of bank and more than 28 Gs.

The other turns are not possible according to known evidence including the "incontrovertible" evidence from CIT witnesses.

 

[A W Smith]

Is the yellow line the new instant turn? You can't do an instant turn! But I will give them 200 feet or so of turn radius. At stall speed of 160 KIAS, they need 85 degrees of bank and 11.47 Gs. At 200 KIAS 86.5 degrees of bank and 16 Gs. At 300 KIAS (a speed the 757 loves) over 88 degree of bank and more than 28 Gs.

The other turns are not possible according to known evidence including the "incontrovertible" evidence from CIT witnesses.

IIRC the three lines represent the three "Citgo witness" descriptions. For my personal G force numbers I used the yellow. The hole center which is just north of the hallway gable roof intersection on that face of the pentagon. and the center of Columbia Pike in front of Paik's shop. which would have been a best case scenario for CIT. You can see they just made it worse with the blue and red lines.

 

[Brainache]

So what everyone (except CIT) seems to be saying is that you can't do a handbrake turn in an airplane. Oh well, back to the CIT cave kiddies.

 

[jhunter1163]

Looks like SPreston is throwing Paik under the bus...

What is interesting is that when watching Edward Paik in the video ( here ) demonstrate the decoy flight path over his garage and over the Navy Annex, the VDOT antenna is visible across Columbia Pike in the distance and the decoy aircraft wingtip missed it by over 250 feet to the north. There is absolutely no possibility that Edward Paik witnessed the faked official Flight 77 straight flight path down the hill to the light poles and Pentagon wall. That bull-crappola never happened.

 

[MIKILLINI]

For the most part I find quite a few members here to be awfully annoying and while they profess to possess a level of superiour intelligence I find most of the responses to be riddled with ad homs and victory dances. But yes here I am reading through this thread enjoying it yet again. Unfortunately we're only up to page 6 so perhaps I returned too soon.

<Snip>

Is the profess to posses a level of superior intelligence a concession on your part to not challenge the calculations?

 

[pomeroo]

For the most part I find quite a few members here to be awfully annoying and while they profess to possess a level of superiour intelligence I find most of the responses to be riddled with ad homs and victory dances. But yes here I am reading through this thread enjoying it yet again. Unfortunately we're only up to page 6 so perhaps I returned too soon.



Can I call you Robert? Reheat just seems so impersonal for an old pal like you. You could just disclose your real first name or I could just randomly insert any first name I please I suppose......

Anyways Tony, let me tell you the next couple months are going to be real real heartwrenching for you when I do release my follow up with Susan. I've made a list of a lot of your concerns and also made sure she saw how Pop Mech/BBC/History Channel portrayed her story. Along with that was my DVD interview with Mrs. McElwain. Needless to say Susan is not upset with me in the least bit because I portrayed her account with 1000% honesty. I can't say the same for the BBC but thats something for Mr. Weick to continually back out of.

But here's where it gets worse for you.

Susan isn't the only interview I've done but time will tell all truths. Naturally I will make note of this and remind you at the proper time. Although it will be quite hard to convince people I've tricked over a dozen people or that they are all liars.



Let's face it your work really is of no value to me. But I tell you what you take the scenario and since your so insistent on determining the exact flight path feel free to work it backwards and present your findings. We will be more than gracious to examine your claims and see how they fit/clash with the eyewitnesses. You do a good job and dinner's on me (figuratively).



Thank you for the not help. I appreciate it. Naturally I will expect you to make a youtube video of yourself personally apologizing to Mrs. McElwain in the near future where her account is corroborated and she is vindicated against the merciless attacks she must endure from hardcore neonazicon bootlickers.

Shame too, you seem a tad more intelligent than a lot of the rift raft. I can't imagine you being a supporting of this neonazicon administration and it's ******** policies.

Perhaps when I release my full Flight 93 documentary you will finally answer the wake up that your fellow citizens have been trying to phone in to you for the last 6 years.

All the best,

Dom

What do you think I'm "backing out of"? The BBC has never sent a representative to appear on 'Hardfire.' Your shameless exploitation of a confused woman would trouble you if you had a conscience. As a conspiracy liar, you feel it's your right to slander innocent people and prey on victims. That's your problem. When you were exposed here as a fraud, I lost interest in you.

 

[A W Smith]

Ooos SPreston forgets to figure the time it took for sound to travel back to Paiks ears in This Post

From Edward Paik's business to NoC and then to the Pentagon (not considering turn radius, which is longer) is ~ 3970.76 ft (adding 48 ft using Mister Reheat the Muse's figures)

~ 3970.76 ft / 7.9 = 502.62 fps if aircraft traveled along witnessed banked flight path north of Citgo

An aircraft flying this distance in 7.9 seconds would equal 502.62 fps or 342.68 mph

Gee willikers this speed of 342.68 mph is very close to the NORAD Tapes last indicated speed of 331 mph (290 knots) isn't it?

subtract 3.43 from 7.9 is now 4.47 or
888.31 (feet per second) = 605.665909 mph

 

[bje]

For the most part I find quite a few members here to be awfully annoying and while they profess to possess a level of superiour intelligence I find most of the responses to be riddled with ad homs and victory dances.

I am not sure what response you would expect from those of us whose intelligence you choose to insult on a daily and persistent basis.

Perhaps you could enlighten us, TC329.

 

[Bobert]

He is gone again like the coward is he.
He is however professing "victory" over JREF'ers:

I do believe this latest attempt from the usual suspects is the last desperate blows of a beaten foe terrified of having to accept such a crushing loss. This illustrates their desperation in ways words cannot describe.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=59097&t=197914
"beaten foe"
So TC329 FINALLY admits this is all about EGO and zero, zilch, nodda, about THE TRUTH!.
"terrified of having to accept such a crushing loss"
This illustrates that the murders of 3000 human beings is a game to TC329 that he thinks we are playing.
We are not playing a game TC.
You are a sick and disturbed person please seek professional help

 

[A W Smith]

Project much ErrorSell?

I do believe this latest attempt from the usual suspects is the last desperate blows of a beaten foe terrified of having to accept such a crushing loss. This illustrates their desperation in ways words cannot describe.

 

[PB&J]

That jumped right out at me too. He was even supplied with an online calculator so that he would not have to take the word of any neonazicon bootlickers. Maybe Craig and Aldo are crunching the numbers and TC will relate the findings when he returns to taunt us some more.

offtopic

Aldo won't be doing any of the math, methinks. He flat out stated that the first C130 radar return at 9:32:26 at 300 feet meant that the plane took off AFTER that point, not before

Craig's work isn't much better, but I think it's safe to say they'll run to Rob for him to conjure up some numbers before they even take a stab at it.

/offtopic

 

[Bobert]

PB&J this post of yours made me giggle:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=58444&t=191706

 

[Bobert]

offtopic

Aldo won't be doing any of the math, methinks. He flat out stated that the first C130 radar return at 9:32:26 at 300 feet meant that the plane took off AFTER that point, not before

Craig's work isn't much better, but I think it's safe to say they'll run to Rob for him to conjure up some numbers before they even take a stab at it.

/offtopic

I dont think that you will be getting any numbers from the Hardy Boys.
http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=131
Aldo copping out:

Keep in mind, this is still and always has been a work in progress. We'll keep you guys updated.

 

[HENTAI DOUKYUSEI JP]

Never, ever, can you overestimate the stupidity of the truth movement. Especially the CIT.

How can you forget about Swing, REDIBIS and Chenney?