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Challenge to CIT

[Teen Talk Craig]Math Class is Tough![/Teen Talk Craig]

or

[Malibu Aldo]Math is Hard![/Malibu Aldo]
 
Reheat said:
I encourage anyone who has the tools, time, and inclination to plot these flight paths graphically. I could do it on paper, but I don't have the maps, nor do I have the time or inclination to do it.
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And don't be afraid to use up finger paint. It's worth it.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Heh, even drummers can get to 4, even if they have to repeat the 1...2 just to make sure they got that bit right. ;)
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Hey hey, we have to get as high as 11 on some counts! ;)

I haven't heard a peep regarding this challenge on Loose Screws, Pffft, ATS, or the CIT (Carnies in Training) forums. They'll probably continue to ignore this and attempt to hide behind cherry-picked witness testimony.

Balsamo is still trying to rework RMackey's math, so I'm guessing we won't hear anything out of them until they can run to him for help (if we ever hear a response to this at all).
 
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Where is CIT?

Has anyone seen the CIT boys anywhere?

I can't find any posts on the Internet by them or their supporters since not long after their fantasy was shown to be aerodynamically impossible.

If they want to play games with the flight path or speed then we'll calculate it exactly as Paik described. Directly over his position on about a 061 degree true heading, then after out of his sight, a turn to fly north of the Citgo Station followed by a turn toward the impact point. Square corners anyone?

Anyone want to take a stab at the G required for a that kind of maneuver? They need Chewbacca real badly about now....
 
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Reheat said:
Has anyone seen the CIT boys anywhere?

I can't find any posts on the Internet by them or their supporters since not long after their fantasy was shown to be aerodynamically impossible.
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They will come back next week and say they were out investigating. Of course, they will have done a brain-dump and forgotten exactly was discussed. Then, they will start over with the same claims and the same arrogance.
 
More Witnesses


Witness 1 :
Madelyn Zakhem, executive secretary at the STC ( VDOT Smart Traffic Center ), had just stepped outside for a break and was seated on a bench when she heard what she thought was a jet fighter directly overhead. It wasn't. It was an airliner coming straight up Columbia Pike at tree-top level. "It was huge! It was silver. It was low -- unbelievable! I could see the cockpit. I fell to theground.... I was crying and scared". "If I had been on top of our building, I would have been close enough to reach up and catch it,"
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Witness 4 : Albert Hemphill
This office, with two nice windows and a great view of the monuments, the Capitol and the Pentagon was "good digs" by any Pentagon standard. I walked in the office and stood peering out of the window looking at the Pentagon.As I stood there, I instinctively ducked at the extremely loud roar and whine of a jet engine spooling up. Immediately, the large silver cylinder of an aircraft appeared in my window, coming over my right shoulder as I faced the Westside of the Pentagon directly towards the heliport. The aircraft, looking to be either a 757 or Airbus, seemed to come directly over the annex, as if it had been following Columbia Pike - an Arlington road leading to Pentagon. The aircraft was moving fast, at what I could only be estimate as between 250 to 300 knots. All in all, I probably only had the aircraft in my field of view for approximately 3 seconds. The aircraft was at a sharp downward angle of attack, on a direct course for the Pentagon. It was "clean", in as much as, there were no flaps applied and no apparent landing gear deployed. He was slightly left wing down as he appeared in my line of sight, as if he'd just "jinked" to avoid something. As he crossed Route 110 he appeared to level his wings, making a slight right wing slow adjustment as he impacted low on the Westside of the building
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Witness 6 : William Lagasse
Subject: 9-11
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:11:40 -0400
From: "Lagasse, William" <...@...>
To: "'apfn@apfn.org'"

Dear Sir
rest assured it was a Boeing 757 that flew into the building that day, I was on duty as a pentagon police sgt. I was refueling my vehicle at the barraks k gas station that day adjacent to the aircrafts flight path. It was close enough that i could see the windows had the shades pulled down, it struck several light poles next to rt 27 ...
In another mail, W. Lagasse confirms that it is the "citgo" gas station.
From: Lagasse, William, , PFPA
To: Dick Eastman

Mr. Eastman
The barracks k gas station is were the press set up after the attack, approx 500-600m west-south west of the pentagon. The aircraft struck the poles in question, they were not blown down...
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Theres more but I have to run, read the page

Just match the witness numbers with their locations on this image
 

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Let's see, now. We have a two-page thread that mercilessly dissects the absurd pretensions of a tiny group of frauds. The frauds offer NOT ONE WORD in response. We had a lengthy thread devoted to Larry Silverstein's innocuous agreement with the FDNY's assessment of WTC 7. NO CONSPIRACY LIARS--none, zero-- could express in words what, precisely, they accuse Silverstein of doing. David Ray Griffin has been reduced to peddling a thoroughly debunked outright falsehood about the airphones that were not removed from AA Flight 77.

Is the evil movement dead, or what?
 
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Same response at ATS where this thread was shown:

Has CIT's Flyover Been Proven Impossible?

It appears the folks at JREF have shown mathematically that the flyover theory is impossible. They used the witnesses that claim that they saw the plane on the North Side of the Citgo Station.
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The only response was this from Ranke:

Yeah.

It's "impossible" for the most powerful country on earth to fly a plane north of the citgo station and away from the Pentagon.

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Mr.Herbert said:
Same response at ATS where this thread was shown:



The only response was this from Ranke:

Yeah.

It's "impossible" for the most powerful country on earth to fly a plane north of the citgo station and away from the Pentagon.

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That is so Stundied!
 
I was away from teh crazy for a few months; what does CIT stand for?
 
HeyLeroy said:
I was away from teh crazy for a few months; what does CIT stand for?
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I'm not sure but back in the days* when they were Dylan's minions someone dubbed them that. I always thought it was DA's way of saying, "Well, here's a nice fish. You can go down and do some investigating, but you're not a "Film Maker" like me, so let's think up something really cool to call you." I can't recall if it was the LC folk or Craig/Aldo who came up with Citizen Investigation Team.

*That's before they were banned, which was before they were unbanned when LCF accepted everyone back because they had no one posting any longer.
 
I gotta hand it to these guys: they're persistent. And they're among the few Truthers who have actually done their own research instead of just parroting Youtube.

Now if they would just send out some petitions and contact some lawyers, detectives, media outlets, and politicians, I'd give them a standing ovation.
 
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