Challenge no longer on hold

a wasted posting

GzuzKryzt said:
If anybody fancies certainty, they could simply ask Mr. Wagg
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That's not a very skeptical method, GzuzKryzt.
Why don't YOU ask him and then provide the answer here, instead of placing the onus on the mythical "anybody" and suggesting this investigation is the responsibility of someone else? Or, do you not fancy certainty yourself?
 
**pushing webfusion in the back**

I'm not asking him either. You do it.

It was my turn last Halloween when I rang old man Heggarty's doorbell and ran away.
 
webfusion said:
That's not a very skeptical method, GzuzKryzt.
Why don't YOU ask him and then provide the answer here, instead of placing the onus on the mythical "anybody" and suggesting this investigation is the responsibility of someone else? Or, do you not fancy certainty yourself?
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I do not stick the label "skeptic" to my forehead and I do not consider this matter calling for a huge amount of skepticism.

Also, I have confidence in the JREF Staff. They most likely will work out what serves the Challenge best. Therefore, I apply a little patience and wait until the new Challenge Facilitator steps up officially.

I neither brought up the speculations about the new Challenge Facilitator nor do I intend to partake.

I simply wanted to put the idea of asking Mr. Wagg on the table. For those who seemed in immediate need to know what's going on, I considered asking the person temporarily in charge the most reasonable and fruitful idea.

Of course, no Forum Member shall feel hindered by my proposition to engage in any kind of guessing games.
 
All applicants' names should become public the MINUTE they apply. Anonymous cases would only add to the crap the challenge administrator has to put up with.

All information pertaining to their claims should be public without exception. Lack of transparency would only strenghten fakers' cases. All applications should also be featured in the forum without exception so that anyone can be up to date with all claims.

It has been this way all this time, why change anything??
 
this is something you could compromise on. Perhaps if an addition were made to the challenge applications where by the applicant could opt to be identified on the forums by initials instead of full name. That way, those not wishing their full name to be known would not have it known, whereas we would know the names of those who didn't mind.

Once the application reaches the preliminary testing phase, the name should be announced anyway.
 
Pinocchio said:
All applicants' names should become public the MINUTE they apply. Anonymous cases would only add to the crap the challenge administrator has to put up with.

All information pertaining to their claims should be public without exception. Lack of transparency would only strenghten fakers' cases. All applications should also be featured in the forum without exception so that anyone can be up to date with all claims.

It has been this way all this time, why change anything??
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It has?

Care to back that up with evidence?
 
Pinocchio said:
All applicants' names should become public the MINUTE they apply. Anonymous cases would only add to the crap the challenge administrator has to put up with.

All information pertaining to their claims should be public without exception. Lack of transparency would only strenghten fakers' cases. All applications should also be featured in the forum without exception so that anyone can be up to date with all claims.

It has been this way all this time, why change anything??
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Agreed!
And if one were to successfully demonstrate paranormal powers,
then world wide notoriety would be inevitable anyway.
 
CFLarsen said:
It has?

Care to back that up with evidence?
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Well, if one would define "All this time" as the time from September 2004 to February 2006, then one would have the proof in the log of applicants section of this forum :)
 
Mendeli said:
Well, if one would define "All this time" as the time from September 2004 to February 2006, then one would have the proof in the log of applicants section of this forum :)
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Not all correspondence between JREF and the applicant is published in the log.
 
Beth said:
Not all correspondence between JREF and the applicant is published in the log.
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Beth, since you applied for the Challenge you most likely have both sides of this story.

How would you like to see the incoming Applications handled? Posted in their entirety? Anonymous? (I can't possibly type down all the questions I have.)

Please let us know your thoughts on this.
 
It seems only fair that, if the JREF were to be restricted in what they can and cannot publish, similar restrictions should be placed on the applicant.

Of course, that would lead to accusation that the JREF is censoring applicants. I still favour the open approach, personally.
 
Pinocchio said:
All applicants' names should become public the MINUTE they apply. Anonymous cases would only add to the crap the challenge administrator has to put up with.

All information pertaining to their claims should be public without exception. Lack of transparency would only strenghten fakers' cases. All applications should also be featured in the forum without exception so that anyone can be up to date with all claims.

It has been this way all this time, why change anything??
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I have been involved in investigating two claims. There were a great many e-mails back and forth between myself and the applicants. Everything I sent also had to be forwarded to Kramer.

The content of most of those e-mails is very, very repetative. Kramer posted a few quotes from them. That was more than enough.

It is a good idea for the JREF to reatain all the information. But it does not help much to put it all out in public. Unless the goal is to make peoples eyes glaze over.
 
russingram said:
By the way, how many posts does it take?
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Isn't most stuff unlocked by the 15th post? I recall wanting to put a URL in my 15th post, but at the time I only had 14. So I posted it, and then edited it to add the URL since I then had 15 posts :)
 
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