Cellulite Fat - Forever or can it be dieted/exercised off?

[djpar]

Well with varying degrees of success. I remember hearing about a study that showed that as people lost weight from dieting they switched from a rational reaction to food, to an emotional reaction to food.

True, of course. Different people will have different results based on their individual abilities to deal with what you mention (amongst other things).

 

[djpar]

One other thing that may help... People who decide to take on the challenge of "getting in shape" often have additional things they want to change, such as:

giving up smoking
giving up or drinking less alcohol
giving up sweets or other foods that would hinder results

All these things are great goals, but when people try to do too much they often give up because it is too difficult.

My advice is to concentrate on the exercise. Once you gain momentum there, the rest will come much easier as your body simply desires those things less.

 

[ponderingturtle]

One other thing that may help... People who decide to take on the challenge of "getting in shape" often have additional things they want to change, such as:

giving up smoking
giving up or drinking less alcohol
giving up sweets or other foods that would hinder results

All these things are great goals, but when people try to do too much they often give up because it is too difficult.

My advice is to concentrate on the exercise. Once you gain momentum there, the rest will come much easier as your body simply desires those things less.

I would like to get in better shape, my plan it to start by eating a little better. Eat more fruits and vegetables that I like and so on. Not going on some radical diet. Then start exorcising a little.

Once I do that and have no issues with those changes maybe then make some other small changes, to improve on that. Small incremental changes so no sudden massive change.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

I doubt I will ever become a runner. I use my treadmill and walk at a brisk pace on an incline. I'm working my way up to increases in speed and incline. Part of this is to hopefully smooth out the fat deposits and part to increase cardiac strength.

I am a runner, and it's no magic solution either. I do considerable distance running (actually I "joggle" run while juggling 3 clubs), but the older I get the more difficult it is to keep my weight down (though I've never been overweight).

I think the age thing is what gets many people. I know at around the age 35, I notice that when I rested in a chair, I really rested. (In my 20s I sat with a lot more muscle tone or general tension and would hop up at a moment's notice. After about 35, I needed a good reason to get up--and would sometimes note that I consciously thought about whether something was a good enough reason!)

Now--it seems the more I run, the hungrier I am and the more I eat. My weight tends to stay very constant (not counting dramatic ups and downs from sweating off literally a gallon of water at a time and then rehydrating, putting it right back on).

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Then start exorcising a little.

That won't help. Demons don't weigh anything.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

My advice is to concentrate on the exercise. Once you gain momentum there, the rest will come much easier as your body simply desires those things less.

Also, as noted, big muscles burn more calories. Better muscle tone burns a few calories 24 hours a day (which can add up).

Trouble is, when you burn more calories, you tend to crave more food.

So at some point, you have to pay attention to portion size.

Not really on the topic, but really good hard exercise has a huge added benefit for me: mood stabilization. It really makes you feel better (even if it hurts like hell sometimes, especially when you're first getting into shape).

 

[djpar]

Lots of good information in here... It is a lifestyle change, but I agree with Joe that I feel better and my mood is more stable when I am working out and eating right.

 

[ponderingturtle]

That won't help. Demons don't weigh anything.

Yea but making your head spin 360 degrees is a real workout.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Also, as noted, big muscles burn more calories. Better muscle tone burns a few calories 24 hours a day (which can add up).

Trouble is, when you burn more calories, you tend to crave more food.
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There comes a point though were you will lose weight anyway. If you are say man hauling sleds in the arctic you will lose weight if you want to or not.

 

[Uncayimmy]

You are also going to want to slowly add some sort of strength training to your exercise routine. I've lost 10 lbs since last year (I also have a pear figure) and it really took off when I started building muscle. You have to start light so you don't end up looking like a body-builder, but it will help increase your metabolism, sculpt your muscles, and improve your joints, etc. If you're serious about getting in shape, I recommend meeting with a trainer who can work with you specifically about what you want and how to achieve it.

The bolded part is another myth. It takes genetics and a LOT of hard work to look anything remotely like a body builder (steroids can help too). If you think losing fat is hard, just wait until you get in shape and decide you want to put on muscle mass. It's very difficult to do, especially as you get older.

The recipe for putting on muscle is Eat Big, Lift Big, Sleep Big. If you're not devoting several hours per week for months on end to strenuous weight lifting combined with a regimen of eating and sleeping properly, you don't have to worry about looking like a body builder.

The advice to start with lighter weights is sound, of course. That's primarily to prevent injury and soreness, both of which are counterproductive.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Yea but making your head spin 360 degrees is a real workout.

True--and all the vomiting of pea soup has to result in some weight loss. Floating off the bed is evidence of that!

There comes a point though were you will lose weight anyway. If you are say man hauling sleds in the arctic you will lose weight if you want to or not.

Not automatically. Burning calories is only part of the equation. If you take in proportionately more calories, you will not lose weight.

You might get a lot stronger, and you might lose a lot of fat, but if you take in more calories than your burn, you will put weight on.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

... To fool the body into thinking you can waste energy you need to eat every couple of hours, in fact soon after you start to feel hungry. If your diet that you have been given says you are not allowed to eat at this time that the diet is faulty. The fact is you can only be voluntarily hungry for so long then you will eat. And probably eat badly in a big way.

Any evidence this works or does it just sound good to you?

... Your body knows that even though you are drinking something sweet it is not getting the energy from it and so it will not fill you up like a sugar loaded drink will. If you want to lose weight you need to drink water and plenty of it, not soft drink or sodas. It is OK to put a little coffee or tea in the water sometimes.

Any evidence this works or does it just sound to you like it is logical?

... That is only the start. You need to make so many changes to lose weight and keep it off. Most diets do not tell you to make these changes. They just say "eat these meals and you will lose weight." That is why most people fail.

You have posted your hypotheses. You have not posted conclusions supported by evidence. Lots of people don't understand the difference.

 

[thaiboxerken]

It's a matter of energy. If you want to lose weight, make sure you use more calories than you intake.

I've heard the 5 meals a day nonsense, and it's just that, nonsense. Physically, I doubt it matters how often you eat. Psychologically, it might be good to do just because you're actually thinking about what you're eating more often.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Yes, you can lose the fat you want. Your success (or rate thereof) will depend partly on your genetics/age and partly on your effort.

You cannot control your genetics/age, but you can control your Diet and Exercise.

Diet: Eat smaller meals and more of them. Eat the right food in the right combination (ie; each meal should contain the appropriate amount of protein, carbs and fat -- stay away from processed foods, sugar and foods that contain saturated and trans fats)

Exercise: If you have time, do both cardio and weight training (aerobic and anaerobic). Lean muscle mass is your friend.

Finally, it is a difficult balance so you may also want to see a Dr. who can tell you your metabolic rate (how many calories you burn naturally), check you for nutrient balance, etc. Once you have that data you can then measure your caloric intake vs. expenditure and design a diet and exercise program that will give you the desired caloric deficit that you can maintain until you get the desired results.

Then you can up your caloric intake to maintain your results.

Do you have any hypotheses as to why so few people are able to just eat right and exercise?

The evidence suggests it isn't that simple.

Can you hold your breath?
Can you hold your breath indefinitely?

Suppose eating fewer calories than you expend is like holding your breath. People can do it for short periods of time but eventually the biological drive to breathe or to maintain one's excess weight becomes too difficult to overcome?

The small % of people who are successful at maintaining weight loss suggests very strongly that biological drives and not simple willpower are at the root of the problem.

 

[thaiboxerken]

I think the reason it's hard for most people is societal. Most people live sedentary lives. The cheap and easy foods are very calorie dense. Also, eating seems to be the biggest form of entertainment in most modern societies.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I wonder if the diet industry would try and stop this "magic" pill from actually being available? Think of the implications - if people could actually take a pill then the diets like "Jenny Craig" would no longer be required.

No, too much money involved. The "diet industry" you speak of are a bunch of individuals and individual groups with no cohesion.

It's Big Pharma working on the magic pill. When they get one which works, believe me, they will market more successfully than valium and Viagra combined.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I think the reason it's hard for most people is societal. Most people live sedentary lives. The cheap and easy foods are very calorie dense. Also, eating seems to be the biggest form of entertainment in most modern societies.

Another hypothesis. How about actual evidence?

Right now a lot of people are speculating on what is it about our lives making so many people overweight. The things you mention have been noted, but they have not been confirmed as the problem.

I'm not saying one should ignore the matter until there is proof. Kids most likely need to learn good eating and exercise habits. But I'm just trying to point out how many unsupported opinions there are out there on this topic.

 

[thaiboxerken]

The things you mention have been noted, but they have not been confirmed as the problem.

I don't think this really is a matter of just a few factors.

If YOU want to lose weight, it's up to you to do it. And to do that is to take in less calories than you burn.

 

[phoenixphire24]

The bolded part is another myth. It takes genetics and a LOT of hard work to look anything remotely like a body builder (steroids can help too). If you think losing fat is hard, just wait until you get in shape and decide you want to put on muscle mass. It's very difficult to do, especially as you get older.

The recipe for putting on muscle is Eat Big, Lift Big, Sleep Big. If you're not devoting several hours per week for months on end to strenuous weight lifting combined with a regimen of eating and sleeping properly, you don't have to worry about looking like a body builder.

The advice to start with lighter weights is sound, of course. That's primarily to prevent injury and soreness, both of which are counterproductive.

You are very right, and I worded that poorly. You have to eat a lot of protein and work out frequently to gain muscle to look like a body-builder. What I should have said if she wants to look lean and fit and help her body loose more weight, it's not necessary to do a lot heavy weight lifting. Again, a trainer would help immensely.

 

[rjh01]

Any evidence this works or does it just sound good to you?

Any evidence this works or does it just sound to you like it is logical?





You have posted your hypotheses. You have not posted conclusions supported by evidence. Lots of people don't understand the difference.

If its evidence you want I suggest you do your own search for it. Then you can see what is out there, rather than just one person's point of view. But here is a start.

One diet suggest you eat 6 meals a day. Link http://www.thatsfit.com/2009/11/24/abs-diet-for-women/


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An independent study by researchers with the Framingham Heart Study in Massachusetts, has turned up results which indicate that the consumption of diet soda correlates with increased metabolic syndrome. Of the 9,000 males and females studied, findings stated that 48% of the subjects were at higher risk for weight gain and elevated blood sugar. The researchers also acknowledged that diet soda drinkers were less likely to consume healthy foods, and that drinking diet soda flavored with artificial sweeteners more than likely increases cravings for sugar flavored sweets.[3]