• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

CD Impossible: Facts

The video here very clearly shows the buckling of the outside coulms of the south tower. You can see the outside columns bending to the inside of the building all at the same time, and then the top comes down.
 
Bell said:
The video here very clearly shows the buckling of the outside coulms of the south tower. You can see the outside columns bending to the inside of the building all at the same time, and then the top comes down.
Click to expand...

Wow. That video is as good a refutation of CD as you can get. And, you can even hear the rumble as the tower falls. If there had been explosions preceeding the collapse that camera would have heard them easily.
 
Actually thermite has a weakness, the particles can be accelerated by sound waves where the aluminum Oxide structure shielding the aluminum breaks. I can not get it to survive impacts like the one in the towers.
It is also venerable to sonochemical reactions, as the Oxide is a crystalline substance. http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/9802/Vives/

I have not at this time been able to test super themates, alto ugh they do seem to be more stable, they have a thicker Aluminum oxide coating, you however have to increase the number of particles, because you have more aluminum oxide and less aluminum in the mix the more you reduce the size of the particles.

I can not see anything surviving the impact of the planes, and the fires, especially when bolted on natural sound conduits.
Hollow steel beams.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
Actually thermite has a weakness, the particles can be accelerated by sound waves where the aluminum Oxide structure shielding the aluminum breaks. I can not get it to survive impacts like the one in the towers.
It is also venerable to sonochemical reactions, as the Oxide is a crystalline substance. http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/9802/Vives/

I have not at this time been able to test super themates, alto ugh they do seem to be more stable, they have a thicker Aluminum oxide coating, you however have to increase the number of particles, because you have more aluminum oxide and less aluminum in the mix the more you reduce the size of the particles.

I can not see anything surviving the impact of the planes, and the fires, especially when bolted on natural sound conduits.
Hollow steel beams.
Click to expand...

Good find!

ETA: Near the bottom of the paper it says electromagnetism has a similar and more uniform effect. The towers were all teeming with electrical wires, probably many has high as 220V for certain appliances. I'm not sure what magnitude of voltage you'd need to get a high enough radiant electromagnetism to produe any effect, however basic electric lines in your house do produce small electromagnetic fields through the insulation, but it is enough to interfere with phone lines or internet cables if they're nearby.

I'll have to look into this more, it seems to have a pretty big impact on the thermite theory.
 
Last edited:
dirtywick said:
Good find!

ETA: Near the bottom of the paper it says electromagnetism has a similar and more uniform effect. The towers were all teeming with electrical wires, probably many has high as 220V for certain appliances. I'm not sure what magnitude of voltage you'd need to get a high enough radiant electromagnetism to produe any effect, however basic electric lines in your house do produce small electromagnetic fields through the insulation, but it is enough to interfere with phone lines or internet cables if they're nearby.

I'll have to look into this more, it seems to have a pretty big impact on the thermite theory.
Click to expand...
the WTC had it own power grid, not only would it have 220-240v lines throughout the building, but high-voltage transformers and other power distribution equipment that woul dproduce an even larger field
 
defaultdotxbe said:
the WTC had it own power grid, not only would it have 220-240v lines throughout the building, but high-voltage transformers and other power distribution equipment that woul dproduce an even larger field
Click to expand...

I bet that stuff is so heavy it would have to be in the basement or lower levels, where the majority of the CTers presume the demolition took place.

I'm assuming that it had at least one cafetria type eatery, probably more. Although the ovens are probably gas, the flat grills might have been electric, and there's probably walk-in freezers. I wonder what the voltage is for equipment like that? In your house it's 220V usually for your fridge and electric stove, but something that big makes me wonder if it's more? That could turn out to be a pretty substantial EM field.
 
I'm going to go on record and say I think you're well along the road to "CD Impossible," but have at it, fellows! Just be sure to leave a trail of breadcrumbs so you can find your way back.... :D
 
Last edited:
I miss dirtywick.

This was so excellent; I just linked to it responding to a guy who claims explosives were planted at the points of impact.
 
Very good analysis, though I'd drop the mention of "common sense", myself. That thing's just useless when trying to understand anything properly.
 
Human said:
First of all the use of the cryptic term “CT” to label all of your antagonists is misleading and demonstrative of presupposed bias.
Click to expand...

That's because none of the CT crowd has ever managed to prove anything, save their own delusions.

“Let’s assume that somehow in the months/years beforehand secret demolitions teams were able to infiltrate the towers unseen by both people and cameras and plant explosives.”

The video “911 Mysteries” goes into length on the strange goings on in the towers before 9/11/01 including the black out of power on the weekend before and the closing down of whole floors for the purpose of “construction” in the weeks before
Click to expand...

It would take months to rig such a building with explosives, assuming full access and an emptied-out building. How exactly would they do it while people worked ?

Straw man, the estimate is that it would take less than 20 people “in the know” to have pulled it off and there are testimonies of people who worked in the towers concerning strange noises and construction crews.
Click to expand...

20 people ? 20 people including the conspirators, the demolition crews, the investigators, FEMA, NIST, etc. etc. ? All of 20 people ?

Not true. Two samples of the slag studied by a metallurgist/physicist showed characteristic signs of thermate. The color of melted metal pouring from windows of the towers is also characteristic of this incendiary’s result.
Click to expand...

And the fact that the facade was made of aluminum doesn't strike you as also important ?

Other evidence of sulpher deposition is cited of evidence of thermate use. The diagonal cuts at the base of support columns are just as thermate would leave as shown in the video “911 Mysteries.”
Click to expand...

Thermate burns down, son.

“the extreme temperatures of the building are well above what’s needed to render the detonator inert or to set it off outright.”

Look at the evidence of where and how the planes hit, neither of which penetrated the cores as far as I can tell.
Click to expand...

Focus. We're talking about 7 WTC.

After the fuel burned off mainly into the atmosphere, small fires were left burning within the towers as evidenced by the reports of firemen who made it to those levels and reported what was needed to extinguish them.
Click to expand...

You have not done your research. That floor was one storey below where the largest fires were burning.

The cores were not subjected to that temperature as far as any available evidence demonstrates.
Click to expand...

Irrelevant, since we can see that it is the perimeter columns that failed.

The entire building was not at these temperatures as you allude earlier. As far as WTC7 goes, the fire was not throughout the building and probably not hot enough.
Click to expand...

"Probably" ?

You got me scratching my head. So, falling debris impacting one corner of the WTC7 would cause it to neatly collapse into itself?
Click to expand...

Who's using strawmen, now ?

That makes it the third building, after WTC1 and WTC2 to ever collapse totally from something other than demolition (and nuclear bombs as in Hiroshima or Nagasaki, of course).
Click to expand...

Really ? No building, EVER, has collapsed without a controlled demolition or a nuke ? EVER ?

People do not want to acknowledge that the current state of human affairs is basically the same anarchic “law of the jungle” that has plagued humanity for all of its existence.
Click to expand...

Meaningless rhetoric. Provide evidence, not politics.
 
I wonder how many hard core 9/11 cult members, like human, have come here...made one post then run off back to where ever they came from to their friends never to appear here again! :D

Mailman
 
Bump.

Homeland Insurgency appears to be trotting out the old "hidden explosives" gem again; this might help him figure out what type of explosive could've been used in the hushabombs.
 
R.Mackey said:
I didn't (and don't) pick on her specifically. I've just seen the "cognitive dissonance" thing bandied about quite a bit. Did a search, she came up.

Although you were pretty on-target with the "frontal lobe" catch.

Not only do 9/11 Deniers recycle each others' tired arguments, they even recycle each others' verbiage. It's amazing.
Click to expand...

Not -really- amazing
You have gotten to the source of the 'new' 911 deniers. They are the same old same old, very few of them and they post under many 'new posters'
(Hi, I'm new here) is pretty much an admission
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom