Caught on Tape: AngryCop vs. Hat

Regnad Kcin said:
True story: I had to take off my ball cap at the roller skating rink last week. Somehow I made it through the rain.
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I used to frequent a bar years ago where men were not allowed to wear hats***. Usually, about once a month, someone would come in and question why they had to comply. Most chose to stay, but I saw a few times where they turned around and left. Idiots.

***I once asked the owner why he had this policy. He said it was to keep out the trailer trash, like the guy in the video. Putting up a sign that said "no trailer trash" wouldn't work, because very few people would self-identify as trailer trash. However, trailer trash, not being gentlemen, would generally have no problem wearing baseball caps and tank tops (also banned) into the bar. This was his indirect way of keeping them out.
 
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Travis said:
It's no sillier than having everyone rise for the judge but people tend to go along with that too.
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Yes. It is exactly as silly.

But I think the point is that there are certain rules in a courtroom (like not crossing the bar) that you could argue on grounds of logic (why can't just anyone cross the bar?) but it is ultimately just distracting to the business at hand.
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I respect and agree that the judge is in charge of the courtroom. I just wish the rules were a bit less...silly.
 
I think the guy is an idiot,and the cops overacted.
The Judge should have asked him politely to remove his hat, asked him less politly, and then the third time say "OK, That hat just cost you 25 bucks for contempt of court".
 
Infoexcavator said:
What if a muslim woman wears a veil in court and refuses to remove it? Should she be arrested too? Its a stupid policy that probably is not even legal.
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If you think being made to take off your hat in a courtroom is a violation of your civil rights then you really have a very easy life with nothing much to complain about. Feel lucky.

Is it a stupid rule? I don't know, that's a matter of opinion.

Is that a lot of force to use on an issue so trivial? Sure, I'll agree with that.

But the bottom line is sometimes saying "No" to a cop is protecting your rights, and sometimes it's just being an arse. If the cop asks permission to search you, your car, or your house, then saying "no" is nothing more than exercising your personal rights. Saying "no" when the cop asks you to take your hat off while indoors is just being stupid and needlessly confrontational.
 
leftysergeant said:
I hope the dumb redneck got a monster road rash,
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To me the problem is not so much that they arrested him over a hat... the problem is that they are sending me and the rest of New Hampshire taxpayers the bill. THAT they should not have the power to do; it's not our fault he sat there with a hat and they flipped out over it.
 
RidleyReport said:
To me the problem is not so much that they arrested him over a hat... the problem is that they are sending me and the rest of New Hampshire taxpayers the bill. THAT they should not have the power to do; it's not our fault he sat there with a hat and they flipped out over it.
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What? - You are more concerned about the Tax-Payers Bill than the stupid Judge? - Then I hope you will never find out anything about foreign operations, the current health care, black projects, bailouts, earmarks, tax cuts for the elite and all the other stuff you really have to pay for. :boggled:
 
Legend has it that Vlad the Impaler (yes, that guy) was once mildly offended when some visiting Turks refused to take off their turbans in his presence, so he had the turbans nailed to their skulls. History is full of things modern judges could learn from.
 
RidleyReport said:
To me the problem is not so much that they arrested him over a hat... the problem is that they are sending me and the rest of New Hampshire taxpayers the bill. THAT they should not have the power to do; it's not our fault he sat there with a hat and they flipped out over it.
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No. It's his fault that he got himself arrested. You should be mad at him for making the system spend money.
 
RidleyReport said:
To me the problem is not so much that they arrested him over a hat... the problem is that they are sending me and the rest of New Hampshire taxpayers the bill. THAT they should not have the power to do; it's not our fault he sat there with a hat and they flipped out over it.
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Then take it out of the mad hatter's hide when he gets out of jail. He should be made to pay for his own keep while he is in the slammer, since he was apparently therre to cause trouble like the rest of the thugs who have been busted in Keene and then gone snivelling to You Tube.

Society must never bend to the will of uincultured bozos who want to make trouble just to save a buck.

And the Libertardian fringe had best look for some other place to colonize.
 
dudalb said:
I think the guy is an idiot,and the cops overacted.
The Judge should have asked him politely to remove his hat, asked him less politly, and then the third time say "OK, That hat just cost you 25 bucks for contempt of court".
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If the judge has to ask it's probably contempt of court time.
 
RidleyReport said:
To me the problem is not so much that they arrested him over a hat... the problem is that they are sending me and the rest of New Hampshire taxpayers the bill. THAT they should not have the power to do; it's not our fault he sat there with a hat and they flipped out over it.
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The bill for what? His hat?
 
dudalb said:
I think the guy is an idiot,and the cops overacted.
The Judge should have asked him politely to remove his hat, asked him less politly, and then the third time say "OK, That hat just cost you 25 bucks for contempt of court".
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No, it is not the judge's job to do that. It is the court officers'. If you get the judge's attention and he or she has to stop the procedings to address you, you are already in contempt of court.
 
Cleon said:
Phones with video capture are pretty common these days.
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Courts I've attended here, use a cellphone, lose the cellphone.
The bailiff -will- take it away.
And that's if all that it does is ring.
It's returned at the end of the day.
And only high-end cases get video coverage.... don't know about what the courts may have for surveillance.
I would hope and expect there is some.
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
I know you chose your name for fun, but the guy that makes these "Ridley Reports" is a moron! You may want to change your handle.

Trailer trash comes to court, doesn't want to take off his Von Dutch trucker cap (even though he's not a trucker - I bet he drinks PBR from a can), ignores an officer of the court, gets arrested.

And nobody has seen him since he's been arrested! Ohhhhhhhhhh! <play dramatic (sic) music here>

Move along, nothing to see here.
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They had to send him out of the country for the waterboarding.
 
If you watch the youtube video to the end, there is a picture of a cop with a skullcap type hat walking around in the same courtroom later. He doesn't get asked to remove the hat and he doesn't get arrested. So apparently only some people can't wear hats in the courtroom.

I also noticed that the judge wasn't present and the court wasn't in session at the time the deputy accosted the spectator.
 
Travis said:
It's no sillier than having everyone rise for the judge but people tend to go along with that too.

But I think the point is that there are certain rules in a courtroom (like not crossing the bar) that you could argue on grounds of logic (why can't just anyone cross the bar?) but it is ultimately just distracting to the business at hand.
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Something else... we don't rise for the judge, nor is the request made. ???
And it's interesting/amusing when the judge talks to members of the audience, sometimes to admonish by name. :)
 
dudalb said:
I think the guy is an idiot,and the cops overacted.
The Judge should have asked him politely to remove his hat, asked him less politly, and then the third time say "OK, That hat just cost you 25 bucks for contempt of court".
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And "no shorts" also. And women falling out of their tops are refused entrance, and told come back fully dressed.
 
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