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real american said:
That is why I hope Gravel isn't voted in, Marijuana should stay illegal. Two kids in my town were smoking it one fell unconsis so the other killed himself, the theory is the kid thought he would go to jail. That there is the all I need to hear to know that it shouldn't be legal.
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That is one of the stupidest bits of inverse reason I've read in a long time. Did you think even for one second before you wrote that? If the kid killed himself because he thought he would go to jail, does it not enter into your head at all that if marijuana had been legal HE WOULDN'T HAVE GONE TO JAIL, WOULD HE?
 
What a surprise:
Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich (D)
82.76% match
Your Other Top Matches
Former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel (D) - 72.41%
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson (D) - 65.52%
Delaware Senator Joseph Biden (D) - 62.07%

Some.. interesting results:
New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) - 55.17%
Connecticut Senator Christopher Dodd (D) - 55.17%
Texas Representative Ron Paul (R) - 55.17%
Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D) - 51.72%
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) - 37.93%
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And the bottom of hte barrel is..
Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson (R) - 13.79%
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R) - 10.34%

This was with the following:
High Against: NCLB, Patirot Act, Waterboarding, Guantanamo Detention Camp, Miltary Action Agaisnt Iran, Minimum Wage

High For: Stem Cell Research, Gun Background Checks, Internet Neutrality, Same Sex Marriage

Medium Against: Border Fence, Support Iraq War, School Vouchers,
Medium For: Privatizing Social Security, Free Trade, UHC, Cit. Path for Illegal Immigrants, Abortion Rights

Unsure: ANWR Drilling, Kyoto Protocol, Death Penalty, US Sanctions in Iran

Shifting ANWR Drilling to Medium For, Kyoto to High For, Death Penalty to Medium Against, US Sanc. in Iran to Low For.. gets me:

Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich (D) 80.00% match
Your Other Top Matches
Former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel (D) - 73.85%
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson (D) - 69.23%
Delaware Senator Joseph Biden (D) - 56.92%
 
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I got 82.9% Gravel, 81% Richardson.

That's the way I'd actually vote. Too bad this election is going to be between media darlings instead of good politicians, though.
 
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bruto said:
That is one of the stupidest bits of inverse reason I've read in a long time. Did you think even for one second before you wrote that? If the kid killed himself because he thought he would go to jail, does it not enter into your head at all that if marijuana had been legal HE WOULDN'T HAVE GONE TO JAIL, WOULD HE?
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He shouldn't been smoking it in the first place, but that is what happened. All I know is that drugs are a big thing were I am and too many kids do it, if your gonna make it legal lets just hand it out to them What the hell, if were gonna make that legal lets make crack or any other drug legal! Do you see were I'm gettin' at?
 
Yay for the Drugs Are Bad, MMkay education system. Setting up unrealistic mindsets so that some kids do hard drugs after they realize the stuff about pot and alcohol was ******** and toss all the warnings aside, and so that other kids kids ultra-scared and promote policies to ruin the lives of the first set.

Beee-utiful
 
littlehulkster said:
I got 82.9% Gravel, 81% Richardson.

That's the way I'd actually vote. Too bad this election is going to be between media darlings instead of good politicians, though.
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I saw the name and I couldn't help but ask, are you a wrestling fan? I am myself.
 
real american said:
He shouldn't been smoking it in the first place, but that is what happened. All I know is that drugs are a big thing were I am and too many kids do it, if your gonna make it legal lets just hand it out to them What the hell, if were gonna make that legal lets make crack or any other drug legal! Do you see were I'm gettin' at?
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Why would it be handed out free if it was legal?

Why would we make crack legal if we legalized pot?

Do you realize the difference between bad things happening because of using the drug and bad things happening because the drug is illegal?


Do you realize you're sounding like a crazed meth-head when you type without thinking?
 
quixotecoyote said:
Why would it be handed out free if it was legal?

Why would we make crack legal if we legalized pot?

Do you realize the difference between bad things happening because of using the drug and bad things happening because the drug is illegal?


Do you realize you're sounding like a crazed meth-head when you type without thinking?
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Sadly some of my family members have been screwed up because of drugs. Two have died. And that is why I'm completely against it.
 
real american said:
I am 100% Serious
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If that's the case...


real american said:
That is why I hope Gravel isn't voted in, Marijuana should stay illegal.
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Wrong.

real american said:
Two kids in my town were smoking it one fell unconsis so the other killed himself,
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Essentially impossible. If it happened then marijuana had nothing to do with it. Marijuana doesn't cause suicide or sudden death.

real american said:
the theory is the kid thought he would go to jail.
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He killed himself because he thought he would go to jail? :rolleyes:

real american said:
That there is the all I need to hear to know that it shouldn't be legal.
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That doesn't make a bit of sense. If he killed himself because he thought he would go to jail for smoking marijuana then if it were legal he would never have killed himself!


real american said:
He shouldn't been smoking it in the first place, but that is what happened.

No it didn't.

real american said:
All I know is that drugs are a big thing were I am and too many kids do it, if your gonna make it legal lets just hand it out to them What the hell, if were gonna make that legal lets make crack or any other drug legal! Do you see were I'm gettin' at?
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No. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Decriminalizing drugs won't solve the drug problem. Decriminalizing drugs will solve the violence and crime problem associated with the prohibition of the drugs. Gangs getting revenue from selling marijuana, they would not be able to if legitimate companies sold it. Not to even mention the massive amount of $ that the U.S. govt spends on the "war on drugs" and the amount that it could generate by taxing them.

Marijuana is actually safer than alcohol or tobacco, both of which are totally legal.

real american said:
I saw the name and I couldn't help but ask, are you a wrestling fan? I am myself.
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How old are you? My guess is very young based on your posts.

real american said:
Sadly some of my family members have been screwed up because of drugs. Two have died. And that is why I'm completely against it.
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Do you support outlawing alcohol or tobacco also? Some of my family members have died from both but I know that outlawing them would not only cause more harm than good, it would also be totally ineffective, just like outlawing marijuana and other drugs is.

quixotecoyote said:
I'm sorry for your loss, but since you have brought it up, how did drugs being illegal help your family?
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Good question.
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I got, no joke, a 100% match with Mike Gravel. 100%. I've never heard a single thing about him.
After him was Kucinich and Obama. The first Republican I had was John Fox, and after him Tom Tancredo. They were down in the double digits.

Why isn't Stephen Colbert on there? He polls higher than half these people.
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
If that's the case...




Wrong.




Essentially impossible. If it happened then marijuana had nothing to do with it. Marijuana doesn't cause suicide or sudden death.



He killed himself because he thought he would go to jail? :rolleyes:



That doesn't make a bit of sense. If he killed himself because he thought he would go to jail for smoking marijuana then if it were legal he would never have killed himself!


real american said:
He shouldn't been smoking it in the first place, but that is what happened.

No it didn't.



No. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Decriminalizing drugs won't solve the drug problem. Decriminalizing drugs will solve the violence and crime problem associated with the prohibition of the drugs. Gangs getting revenue from selling marijuana, they would not be able to if legitimate companies sold it. Not to even mention the massive amount of $ that the U.S. govt spends on the "war on drugs" and the amount that it could generate by taxing them.

Marijuana is actually safer than alcohol or tobacco, both of which are totally legal.



How old are you? My guess is very young based on your posts.



Do you support outlawing alcohol or tobacco also? Some of my family members have died from both but I know that outlawing them would not only cause more harm than good, it would also be totally ineffective, just like outlawing marijuana and other drugs is.



Good question.
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I'm 14 years old. And also the theory is that the kid thought he would go to jail for he thought his friend was dead, thats all I know no one in the town talks about the bad things that happen we have had three horrible things happen in this town and no one talks about them. It ould be great if tabaco was illegal but it won't happen. Alcohol has some restrictions for intance corn whiskey.
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real american said:
He shouldn't been smoking it in the first place, but that is what happened. All I know is that drugs are a big thing were I am and too many kids do it, if your gonna make it legal lets just hand it out to them What the hell, if were gonna make that legal lets make crack or any other drug legal! Do you see were I'm gettin' at?
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Instead of parroting the usual arguments without thought, how about thinking for yourself? To begin with, it ought to be obvious enough that not all drugs are equal, and suggesting that they are is just a way of avoiding difficult choices. I'm sitting here right now with a steaming cup of caffeine in front of me. The choice of which drugs should and should not be legal is not necessarily an easy one, but it is a choice which needs to be made intelligently, without the same old faulty logic and worthless rhetoric that has failed and failed and failed again to solve any problems at all. Your own posts would tell you that if you cared to think harder about what you're saying. There is also a huge difference, as you ought to have figured out had you stopped to think instead of posting the same old knee-jerk junk, between decriminalizing a drug and handing it out. Or do you think that in states where alcohol is permitted, you can just go into the store and carry it off?

Now I don't know whether I'd be in favor of legalizing pot or not. It's a difficult choice. I do think, however, that pursuing, arresting and jailing people for personal use and possession is a waste of taxpayer time and money; and that in general, the war on drugs has accomplished little to control drugs except to move the drug culture into prisons that we end up paying for with tax dollars, some of which could have been spent on programs to make the world a less nasty place to grow up in in the first place.
 
Dorian Gray said:
I got, no joke, a 100% match with Mike Gravel. 100%. I've never heard a single thing about him.
After him was Kucinich and Obama. The first Republican I had was John Fox, and after him Tom Tancredo. They were down in the double digits.

Why isn't Stephen Colbert on there? He polls higher than half these people.
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Learn about him.
 
real american said:
Stoped many others from using it. Look I'm not saying it going to work all the time. But it will work a good amount of the time.
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Uhh... The drugs being illegal stopped many others from using them and that helped the ones who died from the drugs in your family? :confused:

real american said:
I'm 14 years old.
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That explains a lot.

real american said:
And also the theory is that the kid thought he would go to jail for he thought his friend was dead, thats all I know no one in the town talks about the bad things that happen we have had three horrible things happen in this town and no one talks about them. It ould be great if tabaco was illegal but it won't happen. Alcohol has some restrictions for intance corn whiskey.
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1. You don't know anything about the incident. You're making conclusions based on ignorance.

2. Tobacco won't be outlawed simply because it won't work. The same reason why prohibiting drugs doesn't work.

3. What about corn Whiskey? it's not illegal.
 
My top candidate was Mike Gravel (87%). I put equal weight on all issues. My views are a bit unorthodox- I'm very liberal on social issues but I'm also staunchly pro-capitalist. I've been accused more than once of having leanings towards the dreaded L-word....

Anyway, given what I know of Gravel's positions, it's too bad that he doesn't have more of a voice in the national debate, let alone a shot in hell of getting the Democrat's nod.
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
Uhh... The drugs being illegal stopped many others from using them and that helped the ones who died from the drugs in your family?
It helped the ones that are alive, like I said nothing is solid put its just as good, yes you get the lawbreakers in every bunch but the only thing that will work is to buckle down on them!


1. You don't know anything about the incident. You're making conclusions based on ignorance.
No I am basing my opinion on what I heard and what I heard is that two dumba$$es smoked weed. One was unconsios and the other killed himself.

2. Tobacco won't be outlawed simply because it won't work. The same reason why prohibiting drugs doesn't work.

3. What about corn Whiskey? it's not illegal.
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Corn Whiskey aka white lighting aka Moonshine. Up were I am its called corn whiskey, its illegal from what I see.

Are you telling me that if your kid was smoking weed you would be fine with it?
 
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