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Cancer death puts homeopathy in dock

She said she had been told by one of the couple's close friends that the Dingles had a pact with the homeopath treating Dingle, Francine Scrayen.

Under the pact, they agreed that only alternative medicine would be used and Dr Dingle would then write a book about curing his wife's cancer.
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Hm. I wonder if, under this pact, he could be forced to write a book titled: "How my homeopathic remedies killed a woman".

I'd buy it.

McHrozni
 
Appalling. However, like the baby with the eczema, we'll be told that this is a bizarre aberration of a maverick practitioner, and no responsible homoeopath would give such advice. Nobody will confront the fact that this is what they all believe and advise, it's just that most of them have sufficient common sense to abandon their principles if they encounter real, serious illness and confine themselves to "supporting the patient in a complementary role" and prescribing remedies to "alleviate the side-effects of chemotherapy".

The fact is that they all talk the talk. Very few of them may walk the walk all the way, but does that excuse the talk? Peter Fisher may deplore the homoeopaths who tell people to avoid anti-malarials and take homoeopathic prophylactics as well, but they're only following the logic of his own basic position.

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
Peter Fisher may deplore the homoeopaths who tell people to avoid anti-malarials and take homoeopathic prophylactics as well, but they're only following the logic of his own basic position.
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Indeed - how does he know the homoeopathic malaria prophylactics don't work?
 
I think he's spent his life carefully only dealing with the self-limiting, the chronic but non-life-threatening, and the worried well. He's comfortable that homoeopathy "works" within these parameters. He doesn't believe homoeopaths should step out of this comfort zone, but he has never analysed the reasons for this belief.

Rolfe.
 
From the second link above - "She had dozens of bottles of pills. She had to follow her homeopath's instructions exactly," she said."

Wonder if the coroner will question the homeopath as to the mechanism by which her treatment would cure cancer. I predict silence or obfuscation but am not willing to rule out batguano insanity as a reply.
 
I really wish these alt-med nutters would be held accountable for this kind of stuff.

BTW, I am unfamiliar with the colloquialism "in dock." What exactly does that mean? Searching shows that it is widely used in British and Australian media, but I can't find an explanation of meaning of the phrase. The best match I can come up with would be "on the spot" or "on the hot seat" or "under fire." Is that even close?
 
The dock is the walled podium in a UK court where the accused stands during their trial.
 
Spiro said:
The dock is the walled podium in a UK court where the accused stands during their trial.
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Although this may not have been the poster's intention, I took it to mean "into storage" or "to bed" or "put away" or "into port", i.e. to imply that the death cast enough doubt on homeopathy that it should be locked up and put away. I thought the poster had taken a little license with the phrase "in[to dry] dock". The quoted meaning is more accurate of course but given the topic, both ideas have merit, I would say.
 
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"In the dock" is a standard figure of speech for "on trial", in the sense of standing accused of causing harm.

Don't you have docks in them furrin courts?

Rolfe.
 
cassis said:
Although this may not have been the poster's intention, I took it to mean "into storage" or "to bed" or "put away" or "into port", i.e. to imply that the death cast enough doubt on homeopathy that it should be locked up and put away. I thought the poster had taken a little license with the phrase "in[to dry] dock". The quoted meaning is more accurate of course but given the topic, both ideas have merit, I would say.
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I just used the headline of the story for the thread title. Headlines rarely have room for the definite article.
 
So what type of homeopathy is Francine Scrayen? Multiple remedies is unusual. On the other hand all their web listingings are for homeapathy so not a case of a wondering quack.
 
geni said:
Multiple remedies is unusual. On the other hand all their web listingings are for homeapathy so not a case of a wondering quack.
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...even when you can charge by the bottle? Was she by any chance providing the 'medicines'?
 
Fnord said:
Homeopathy. Never. Works.​

Worst. Idea. Ever.​
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That's not true, homeopathy can help in the alleviation of at least two diseases/conditions that I can think of off the top of my head.
Low blood sugar
Dehydration

Granted, you have to have to proper forumation of homeopathic solutions, solid pillules in the first case and a liquid remedy in the second, but I think you can see that both of these life-threatening cases could be satifactorily treated with a homeopathic remedy.




I am not a doctor and my words should not be taken as an endorsement of said treatments.
 
Rolfe said:
Appalling. However, like the baby with the eczema, we'll be told that this is a bizarre aberration of a maverick practitioner, and no responsible homoeopath would give such advice.
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And the savvy homeopathic practitioners will encourage you to get conventional medical treatment so that they can claim to have cured you despite the negative effects of "allopathy". (Or just lie and say that medical science could do nothing about the condition, but they improved markedly after they took the homeopathic--which just so happened to take place about the time you'd expect the conventional treatment to cause an improvement.)
 
kmortis said:
That's not true, homeopathy can help in the alleviation of at least two diseases/conditions that I can think of off the top of my head.
Low blood sugar
Dehydration

Granted, you have to have to proper forumation of homeopathic solutions, solid pillules in the first case and a liquid remedy in the second, but I think you can see that both of these life-threatening cases could be satifactorily treated with a homeopathic remedy.
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And, to have any reasonable chance of helping with these conditions, you'd have to take the homeopathic remedy in doses far greater than are normally recommended by the homeopaths. (10 to 20 drops of water per day won't do much to alleviate dehydration.)
 
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