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Cancel culture IRL

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d4m10n said:
I think it's weird to talk about "right wing freaks" obsessively, as if somehow every topic revolves around them.
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It's weird how you ignore the obvious cultural context that is driving all these reactionary freakouts.

How else would you explain the sudden drop in interest in CRT and cancel culture? Did all these wise scholars suddenly change their minds, or is something else preoccupying their attention?
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
It's weird how you ignore the obvious cultural context that is driving all these reactionary freakouts.
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OP was asking about CRT as a field, hence the link to the wiki.

Some people are trying to make this topic about "reactionary freakouts," instead of the substance of CRT, presumably b/c making the right look bad helps them win culture war battles.
 
d4m10n said:
OP was asking about CRT as a field, hence the link to the wiki.

Some people are trying to make this topic about "reactionary freakouts," instead of the substance of CRT, presumably b/c making the right look bad helps them win culture war battles.
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This is the reactionary freak out thread, not the CRT thread.
 
Dr. Keith said:
This is the reactionary freak out thread, not the CRT thread.
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Good point that this isn't the CRT thread, but I wasn't the one who lumped "CRT and cancel culture" together.

Bad point to claim "Cancel Culture" was coined by reactionaries freaking out, since that isn't at all how it went down.

Good point to claim "Cancel Culture" aptly describes reactionaries freaking out, so long as you include progressives freaking out as well, e.g. Danielle Muscato tryna get a random Kroger employee sacked or sanctioned by leveraging online outrage.

ETA: Additional examples here, in the CRT thread of all places.
 
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Reactionary freakouts are fair game here (e.g. #3328) but the OP was a distinctly progressive freakout.
 
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CEO of US video game company forced to step down after making public comments supporting Texas' draconian anti-abortion law.

The CEO of TripWire, an American video game company, stepped down Monday following comments he made about Texas's controversial abortion law that passed last week.

Company leader John Gibson tweeted Saturday that he was "proud" of the Supreme Court for upholding the "fetal heartbeat" bill.

"Proud of #USSupremeCourt affirming the Texas law banning abortion for babies with a heartbeat," Gibson wrote on Twitter. "As an entertainer I don’t get political often. Yet with so many vocal peers on the other side of this issue, I felt it was important to go on the record as a pro-life game developer.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/media/571016-tech-company-ceo-steps-down-after-comments-on-texas-abortion-law
 
Emily's Cat said:
"Kabuki as civil rights" made me laugh.

I wonder how long it will be before we need to completely ban brazil nuts? When I was a young child in the south, my quite-obliviously-racist grandparent always called them "n-asterisks-toes".
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Not to mention, Agatha Christie for "And Then There Were None" or any children doing any version of "eenie meenie minie moe".

SuburbanTurkey said:
CEO of US video game company forced to step down after making public comments supporting Texas' draconian anti-abortion law.



https://thehill.com/homenews/media/571016-tech-company-ceo-steps-down-after-comments-on-texas-abortion-law
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Reasonable as a CEO generally represents a company and probably should avoid controversy.

SuburbanTurkey said:
Woman seen in viral video intentionally coughing on masked shoppers at a store has been identified and fired from her job.



https://www.3newsnow.com/news/local-news/video-in-lincoln-grocery-store-shows-woman-intentionally-coughing-on-others

Sucks to suck.
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Unless she works at the store in question, I fail to see how this is related in anyway to her job and clearly, inappropriate cancellation. Although, I don't have much sympathy for her, as you say, it sucks to suck.
 
ahhell said:
Not to mention, Agatha Christie for "And Then There Were None" or any children doing any version of "eenie meenie minie moe".



Reasonable as a CEO generally represents a company and probably should avoid controversy.



Unless she works at the store in question, I fail to see how this is related in anyway to her job and clearly, inappropriate cancellation. Although, I don't have much sympathy for her, as you say, it sucks to suck.
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The coughing shopper was engaging in behavior that put her coworkers at risk. It also does speak to her judgment (or lack thereof) and potential for causing internal incidents or liability claims at some point.
 
Another public freakout, another person named, shamed, and fired from their job.

A man who confronted a group of bikini-clad girls at the beach over their bathing suits, comparing them to "pornography," has been fired from his job.

A video of Logan Dorn approaching the nine women at a beach in Fort Collins, Colorado, earlier this week went viral on social media.

One of the girls, Mia, captured Dorn telling the group to "take young eyes into consideration they don't need to see pornography," referring to their outfits. He goes on to say: "If men of God don't stand up then our society's going to go down the drain because there's no morality."

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The full statement says: "Today information was brought to our attention that one of our employees, Logan Dorn, was accused of harassing a group of individuals over the weekend in Northern Colorado. We began an investigation this morning which has resulted in the immediate termination of Mr. Dorn.
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https://www.newsweek.com/logan-dorn-man-confronted-bikini-clad-women-video-fired-job-colorado-1627392
 
The only Cancel Culture I'm worried about is services that you sign up on the web, but make you call customer support to cancel.
 
From TheFire.org, a case of what happens when you promote the idea that people will suffer PTSD attacks from seeing/reading the 'wrong' thing...


ROSEBURG, Ore., Sept. 9, 2021 — When student Kaylyn Willis submitted a writing assignment about mental health and murder, she didn’t expect it to destroy her chances of completing nursing school.

The Umpqua Community College student was expelled from her nursing program after administrators decided that her story was “dishonest, disrespectful, or disruptive.” The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education called on the public college to reverse its decision and reinstate Willis, but the school refused on Sept. 1.

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In the winter 2021 term, Willis enrolled in Chronic I, a class taught by instructor Patrick Harris. Each week, Harris instructed students to use “critical imagining” to write and post online a story from the perspective of a person suffering from a chronic disease or disorder.

For the sixth week’s assignment, Harris asked his students to reflect on the support systems of chronically ill individuals and how a person with a chronic illness might respond to the sudden and unexpected loss of a support system. Willis submitted an imagined scenario about a woman suffering from ALS who shoots and kills her husband, her primary caretaker. She intended the post to be an exploration of the deterioration of mental health caused by a chronic illness and drew from a publicized case where a man was found not guilty of murdering his wife and sister-in-law because of ALS-related mental health issues. Willis also researched support groups for incarcerated people suffering from ALS.
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https://www.thefire.org/nursing-stu...ignment-about-a-shooting-labeled-insensitive/
 
A Libertarian on 'Cancel Culture'...


In an age of cancel culture, it's perhaps fitting that the death of a free speech hero would receive little fanfare. So when the poet, publisher, and provocateur Lawrence Ferlinghetti shuffled off this mortal coil in February at the grand old age of 101, there were dutiful obituaries in The New York Times and elsewhere but the respects were hardly commensurate with the debt owed the man. By publishing Allen Ginsberg's ****-filled poem Howl in 1956, Ferlinghetti risked jail and financial ruin—and did as much as any single individual to end not just government censorship but a stultifyingly repressive American intellectual culture. When Ferlinghetti was hauled into court, legitimate U.S. publishers wouldn't touch books such as Lady Chatterley's Lover and Tropic of Cancer for fear of being charged with obscenity. He helped create the period of increasingly free and open expression that moral scolds, increasingly in the name of progressive visions of "anti-racism," are challenging today.

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Contemporary cancel culture can take on left and right flavorings, and it can be enforced by governments, corporations, or individuals. But it all works to reduce our ability not just to talk freely but to live freely. And that is reason enough to contest it at every level.
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https://reason.com/2021/09/07/self-cancellation-deplatforming-and-censorship/
 
The Atheist said:
Very good piece here on an attempt to cancel an author, and cancel culture in general.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ly-if-you-choose-to-confuse-fiction-with-fact
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It broadly parallels the article I posted from that Libertarian, but I'd add that selective quoting and missatributing a characters ideas as ones held personally by the author was the hallmark of a 1950s moral panic, albiet not one related to Joe McCarthy, it's covered in this pair of YouTube videos on the rise of the Comics Code Authority.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-vma26L2wM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoA4F_-QhU4


Though in the current moral panic the hiring of censorship officers (aka 'Sensitivity Readers') has proceeded at a much faster pace.


Rather ironically one of those censorship officers became the author referred to in this quote from the Guardian article:


In one delicious case in the United States, an author who cancelled his contemporaries for appropriating gay themes had to withdraw his own book when it was accused of appropriating the Serbian mass murders of Balkan Muslims and using them as a backdrop for a cute love story.
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Here is a link to a 2021 article on that cancellation.


https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/july-2021/the-ya-boo-gang/


The American author Kosoko Jackson should, in theory, have been uncancellable. He’s black, he’s gay, and before publishing his own novels, he worked as a so-called “sensitivity reader” — checking other people’s manuscripts for potential pitfalls when writing characters who match his demographic. As his debut YA novel A Place for Wolves approached its publication date in early 2019, it looked bound for success: there were positive advance reviews and lots of support from booksellers.

Then, in March that year, Jackson pulled his own book from publication and issued a statement apologising for the “hurt” he had caused. How did he reach this extraordinary decision? A Place for Wolves is a love story between two American boys. So far, so acceptable according to the YA mores: Jackson was, and remains, a proponent of the #ourvoices movement, which holds that stories should be written by the same kind of people they are about.

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His supposed error was to set his story against the backdrop of the Kosovo war, and the review that turned his fortunes starts like this, in the typically measured tone of the YA world: “I have to be absolutely ******* honest here, everybody. I’ve never been so disgusted in my life.” Jackson is damned for using a genocide as the backdrop to his “cute gay love story”; people who liked the book are damned for “fetishization” of gay men (a charge that is strikingly close to Jackson’s earlier attack on “books written for the female gaze in M/M literature”).

By the end, there’s no doubt that this novel is a moral atrocity. These criticisms spread through the internet, until Jackson felt he had no choice other than to pull his own book.
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