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Can PsyOps Win the Jihad?

SteveGrenard said:
I guess Hezbollah will have to burn their rocket launchers then. What a pity, wasting such good rocket launchers because of cockeroaches.
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What about the people who get sick and perhaps die? Those that are not terrorists?

You haven't thought this through, have you?
 
Steve, thank you for being here. You keep our troll well engaged. For that, you deserve poster of the year.
 
Please provide references from PubMed from peer reviewed journals on any epidemics or diseases that will be caused by contaminating rocket launchers with well cooked pork or pork byproducts. Abstracts or URLs will be sufficient.

Such pork would first be cooked to a min internal temperature of 350 degrees F. to insure sterilization of the pork from any viral, bacterial, unicellular parasitic or metazoan parasitic diseases, particularly those for which pork is well known such as Trichinella spiralis.

In addition all pork destined for spraying on rocket launchers shall be treated in accordance with internationally accepted standards including the freezing of cooked pork prior to deployment:

  1. Cook pork thoroughly
  2. Cook all garbage fed to hogs.
  3. Proper meat handling, ordinary curing and salting of pork products will not kill encysted juveniles.
  4. Freezing is effective if carried out properly. The freezing requirements differ with the size of the meat. Pieces not exceeding 6 inches in thickness require 20 days at 5F, 10 days at -10F, 6 days at -20F. Larger pieces require longer periods. Quick freezing and storage for 2 days is effective.
More at:

http://ucdnema.ucdavis.edu/imagemap/nemmap/ent156html/nemas/trichinellaspiralis
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SteveGrenard said:
Please provide references from PubMed from peer reviewed journals on any epidemics or diseases that will be caused by contaminating rocket launchers with well cooked pork or pork byproducts. Abstracts or URLs will be sufficient.

Such pork would first be cooked to a min internal temperature of 350 degrees F. to insure sterilization of the pork from any viral, bacterial, unicellular parasitic or metazoan parasitic diseases, particularly those for which pork is known as as Trichinella spiralis.

In addition all pork destined for spraying on rocket launchers shall be treated in accordance with internationally accepted standards including the freezing of cooked pork prior to deployment:

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Don't be an idiot, Steve. When you dump pork fat over a huge area, you will create a health hazard.

Do you honestly think that borrowing an idea from Mohammad Atta makes it less insane?

That means you must think that he was pursuing the right way of conquering his enemies.

:hb:

This just gets better and better.
 
CFLarsen said:
Don't be an idiot, Steve. When you dump pork fat over a huge area, you will create a health hazard.
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Who said huge area? Did I say huge area or did I say rocket launchers?
Do you know the square footage occupied by a rocket launcher. Can you provide that please? Be specific.

Do you honestly think that borrowing an idea from Mohammad Atta makes it less insane?
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I say give 'em back what they gave us. They were initially into flying the world's largest crop duster over Washington and/or New York filled with deadly toxins. The IAF could do the same thing with a much smaller plane and a non-lethal payload of pork which it could dump on the rocket launchers. This way the bombs they would've used wouldn't run the risk of killing innocent civilians Hezbollah is so fond of placing near their rocket emplacements.

That means you must think that he was pursuing the right way of conquering his enemies.
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"Right" in this case is a loaded word. Were they right to attack innocent civilian targets in the U.S. for no reason at all? No. But did he have a good idea about using a crop duster? Yes.
 
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Did you find any PubMed refs yet to back up your claim that contaminating rocket launchers will cause an epidemic?
 
SteveGrenard said:
Who said huge area? Did I say huge area or did I say rocket launchers?
Do you know the square footage occupied by a rocket launcher. Can you provide that please? Be specific.
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How on Earth are you going to hit that with a pork bomb? What if you hit something else? Oops!

SteveGrenard said:
I say give 'em back what they gave us. They were initially into flying the world's largest crop duster over Washington and/or New York filled with
deadly toxins. The IAF could do the same thing with a much smaller plane and a non-lethal payload of pork which it could dump on the rocket launchers. Ths way the bombs they would've used wouldn't run the risk of killing innocent civilians Hezbollah is so fond of placing near their rocket emplacements.
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"Right" in this case is a loaded word. Were they right to attack innocent civilian targets in the U.S. for no reason at all? No. But did he have a good idea about using a crop duster? Yes.
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Aha. So, you advocate using insane methods to fight the enemy. What, pray tell, is the difference between you and the terrorists, Steve?

:hb:
 
Have you found a reference, just one will do, that using a well-cooked pork grease based aerial bombardment will result in a disease epidemic?

It's not as easy as you make it sound -- inflicting a biological weapon as you suggest .... which is why bio-terrorists go crazy trying to obtain cultures of anthrax, botulinum, pasturella or variola. If it was that easy we'd all be dead by now. Try searching also for pork grease or fat culture media for these agents or try finding any pork fat based culture medium for any microbial organism.

If you have any grass or earth nearby, next time you have some bacon grease around try putting some out and watch what happens to it in a matter of hours or days. If the ants don't finish it off, and they probably will, then some larger animal
will lap it up.

This is all moot anyway. I have said that the pork grease weapon should be used on the rocket launchers. People can easily escape it. Buildings will not collapse around their heads because of it.

But we don't know if it will deter the devout muslim jihadi enemy from pursuing their battle or not. You are so sure they will not be deterred so what difference will
it make?

 
CFLarsen said:
How on Earth are you going to hit that with a pork bomb? What if you hit something else? Oops!
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Speak for yourself. Low level aerial bombardment by an experienced crop duster pilot will not make that kind of error.

Aha. So, you advocate using insane methods to fight the enemy. What, pray tell, is the difference between you and the terrorists.....?
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I am not launching rockets into the houses of innocent civilians, nor am I flying planes into office buildings, nor am I waging jihad to impose my religion, killing millions worldwide (e.g. Sudan) in the process. And most importantly I am proposing that a non-lethal remedy be found to combat a heinous, barbaric enemy who is willing to die for their religious beliefs, an enemy that is sick and very disturbed if not misguided.
 
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I understand soldiers in Iraq often put a condom over the barrel of their guns to keep dust and sand out after they've been cleaned. If they need to use their weapons they don't need to bother removing the condom and the bullet goes right through without even slowing down.

So we could provide condoms made from pig intestine. Or if that's too much trouble, soldiers could just add a strip of bacon to the inside to grease that first bullet.

There are so many different ways of doing this.
 
SteveGrenard said:
Speak for yourself. Low level aerial bombardment by an experienced crop duster pilot will not make that kind of error.
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First, crop dusters aren't all that precise. Second, you expect a slow plane to fly low over a city area controlled by Hezbollah? That's a Kamikaze attack!

:hb:

SteveGrenard said:
I am not launching rockets into the houses of innocent civilians, nor am I flying planes into office buildings, nor am I waging jihad to impose my religion, killing millions worldwide (e.g. Sudan) in the process. And most importantly I am proposing that a non-lethal remedy be found to combat a heinous, barbaric enemy who is willing to die for their religious beliefs, an enemy that is sick and very disturbed if not misguided.
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Steve, you obviously haven't thought this through. But do keep fantasizing: The more elaborate your scenario has to be, the funnier it gets.
 
zenith-nadir said:
I like Montreal smoked meat bullets...they smell so yummy when they are fired. ;) {stomach grumbles}
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:) I go for the .12 Gauge Vienna Sausages myself. :)

As for Psy Ops alone winning anything, I think it's highly unlikely. Psy Ops is a tool, much like artillery, an air force, a navy, etc. It couldn't win anything unless it's used (intelligently) in conjunction with other "options."

It IS an admirable specialty, especially if intelligence can be gleaned or enemy forces discouraged by psychological means, but to be honest, I think the fanatical Muslim insurgents are willing to go just a little further on the bloodthirsty scale than most of the coalition soldiers so they are often using their own brand of psy ops on us instead.
 
Mycroft said:
So we could provide condoms made from pig intestine.
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Easy to arrange actually; pork sausage casings would be ideal and about the right size (even snugger than a condom for most rifles). They are often supplied salted so they won't decay rapidly either, especially in desert conditions. It could be a really good idea if it wasn't a really stupid one.
 
we should be very very carefull here...If Muslims get wind of this they may retaliate by showing our troops Crucifixes and wearing Garlic cloves....

Hang on, or is that for vampires?
 
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