Can photograph effect?

[Kumar]

flume,

The blue light found to be successful in the treatment of neonatal jaundice has also been shown to be effective in the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis. In studies by S. F. McDonald, most of those exposed to blue light for variable periods up to fifteen minutes experienced a significant degree of pain relief. It was concluded that the pain reduction was directly related both to the blue light and the length of exposure to it. Blue light is also used in healing injured tissue and preventing scar tissue, in the treatment of cancers and nonmalignant tumors, as well as skin and lung conditions.
n 1990, scientists reported to the annual conference of the American Association for the Advancement of Science on the successful use of blue light in the treatment of a wide variety of psychological problems, including addictions, eating disorders, impotence, and depression.
http://innerself.com/Health/Color_Therapy_part_2.htm

This link also gives some effects through skin.

 

[Mojo]

This link also gives some effects through skin.

Have S. F. McDonald's results been published anywhere? Reference, please.

Also note the word "psychological" in the last paragraph of your quotation.

 

[Donks]

Have S. F. McDonald's results been published anywhere? Reference, please.

Also note the word "psychological" in the last paragraph of your quotation.

I found this. It's some CAM magazine or something like that. I shot off an email to SDSU asking for a reference on the research.

 

[flume]

Notice how they start out talking about the use of lights for jaundice, to give it respectability. But those lights are very bright - they add light of the wavelength of interest to the skin.

What she did was different - she put a filter on light from an ordinary incandescent light bulb. She removed some percent of the other wavelenghs but did not increase the blue ones. I find this unconvincing.

And no pub med references so she never published this.
(even if she had, they might have been poor studies, but at least we could have looked at her controls.)

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

"n 1990, scientists reported to the annual conference of the American Association for the Advancement of Science on the successful use of blue light in the treatment of a wide variety of psychological problems, including addictions, eating disorders, impotence, and depression"

I think we can take this to mean it was presented as an abstract then failed peer review so was not published formally.

 

[Mojo]

"n 1990?" They did this experiment one thousand, nine hundred and ninety times? And still didn't get it published?

 

[Kumar]

The effects noted here are effects generated in the brain after the light input has been handled by the eyes. It is perhaps not a psychological effect, but is also not a physical effect in the sense that we have been discussing here.

So yes, epileptic seizures and so on are physiological effects, but they are caused by problems with treatment of certain signals in the brain, not by the light itself.

Can't "psychological" & physiological effects be interrelated?

The non-visual effects of the color temperature of fluorescent lamps were reviewed based mainly on our recent studies with special reference to physiological aspects in humans such as arousal level, autonomic nerve system including heart rate variability, blood pressure and body temperature regulation, and sleep architecture. It was concluded that there obviously existed the non-visual effects of the spectral composition of fluorescent lamps on physiological aspects, as predicted based on the functions of the nuclei located on the photic non-visual pathway. Pub Med link.

You may try more here OR here.

 

[Kumar]

Sound principles, based on technical studies of the psychological and physiological effects of color on hospital patients, can help hospital administrators and designers choose interior colors with function in mind.
Pub med link

This link indicate full research in science it yet not made. Probably, we see on present severe stiuations not progressive effects.

 

[MRC_Hans]

All these effects are visual effects. Of course visual perceptions will often have a psychological effect, and through that may have a physical effect, we all know that (well, most of us know that ), but it is still all coming through the eye.

You are trying to claim that light patterns merely falling on our body have an effect, but that is not supported at all by the papers you reference.

Hans

 

[steenkh]

Kumar, you could try to google for studies of how blind people are affected by colors ...

 

[Kumar]

All these effects are visual effects. Of course visual perceptions will often have a psychological effect, and through that may have a physical effect, we all know that (well, most of us know that ), but it is still all coming through the eye.

You are trying to claim that light patterns merely falling on our body have an effect, but that is not supported at all by the papers you reference.

Hans

The essence is in 'getting the sense of energy in any wavelength'. Whichever of our body's part can sense it--can pass the effect. 'Detection & recognition' of clour AND 'getting effect of any wavelength are two differant aspects. Moreover 'can photograph effect? means 'to check effects.

 

[Donks]

The essence is in 'getting the sense of energy in any wavelength'. Whichever of our body's part can sense it--can pass the effect. 'Detection & recognition' of clour AND 'getting effect of any wavelength are two differant aspects. Moreover 'can photograph effect? means 'to check effects.

Kumar, you have yet to show that being exposed to a picture would produce an effect on the skin different from the effect one would get form being exposed to a random mix of pixels that have the same colors as the picture.

And in no way, shape of form have you shown that any effect that arises from being exposed to a picture travels over the body. That is a completely ridiculous notion.

 

[Kumar]

Kumar, you have yet to show that being exposed to a picture would produce an effect on the skin different from the effect one would get form being exposed to a random mix of pixels that have the same colors as the picture.

Indication can be; brain detect these two differantly.

And in no way, shape of form have you shown that any effect that arises from being exposed to a picture travels over the body. That is a completely ridiculous notion.

Reflected wavelengths.

 

[Donks]

Indication can be; brain detect these two differantly.

Through the eyes!Not "whichever of our body's part can sense it."

Reflected wavelengths.

You have got to be kidding me.
Grab two different pictures without looking at them. Put your palms on top of them. Can you tell them apart? No. Enough with this stupid line of thinking.

 

[Kumar]

Through the eyes!Not "whichever of our body's part can sense it."

You have got to be kidding me.
Grab two different pictures without looking at them. Put your palms on top of them. Can you tell them apart? No. Enough with this stupid line of thinking.

Just non-sense. It is not necessary--effects can't be there without detection--physically. Anyway, if you can develop 'extreme/unlimited sense of detection'(as indicated) you can detect it. But still, I think your measuring technology at present status may detect it--provided it can measure to the capacity of your brain.

 

[Donks]

Just non-sense. It is not necessary--effects can't be there without detection--physically. Anyway, if you can develop 'extreme/unlimited sense of detection'(as indicated) you can detect it. But still, I think your measuring technology at present status may detect it--provided it can measure to the capacity of your brain.

Yes, you are absolutley right. This is utter nonsense.

 

[steenkh]

So how is it, Kumar, you did not find a load of hits on the effect of colour on blind people? If the perception is not done through the eyes, colours should have the same effect on blind people as on others, right?

What about clothes? Are people wearing more clothes more susceptible to colour effects - or to photographs?

 

[Kumar]

So how is it, Kumar, you did not find a load of hits on the effect of colour on blind people? If the perception is not done through the eyes, colours should have the same effect on blind people as on others, right?

What about clothes? Are people wearing more clothes more susceptible to colour effects - or to photographs?

Wearing clothes of differant colours can have differant effects on differant people. Some may feel warm & other cool effects. You can check effects of getting warm & cool effects. Somewhat;

Colors are basically warm, cool or neutral:

Warm colors stimulate activity and creativity by eliciting a warm and exciting mood.
Cool colors are passive and calming; they reduce tension and increase concentration.
Neutral colors give a feeling of stability and balance.

 

[MRC_Hans]

The essence is in 'getting the sense of energy in any wavelength'. Whichever of our body's part can sense it--can pass the effect.

Only our eyes can sense the wavelength of incoming energy, and only in the very narrow visual spectrum.

The only other way our body detects radiated energy is by heat, and that is not even directly.

The only other effect ever found is the chemical effect of UV light.

'Detection & recognition' of clour AND 'getting effect of any wavelength are two differant aspects.

Exactly, and the later is nonexistent.

Moreover 'can photograph effect? means 'to check effects.

There are no effects to check.

Hans

 

[steenkh]

Wearing clothes of differant colours can have differant effects on differant people. Some may feel warm & other cool effects. You can check effects of getting warm & cool effects. Somewhat;

Kumar, your quote is about psychological effects. Nowhere does it state that you actually get colder or warmer by seeing or wearing "cold" or "warm" colours - but you may feel so.

Besides, on the inside of clothes, it is dark, if you are not wearing see-through materials. Or are you now believing that the colours work even without light?

And you still have not commented on the effects on blind people.