Can photograph effect?

[flume]

I no longer think I understand what is being discussed here.

 

[Lisa Simpson]

I no longer think I understand what is being discussed here.

Does anyone? Certainly not Kumar.

 

[Kumar]

Does anyone? Certainly not Kumar.

That can be the only problem--dark side.

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Btw, do we also reflect non-visible wavelengths? How these can form part of photos?

 

[Donks]

Btw, do we also reflect non-visible wavelengths? How these can form part of photos?

Didn't I recomend you research how photography works? I'm pretty sure I did. In case I didn't, I'll do it now: Look up how photography works, and you'll be able to answer your own quesiton.

 

[Kumar]

Donks, I am just interested in how a phtographic paper takes true impression of differant waveleangths. You will agree that what colour wec see may not be in reality. IT IS OUR EYES and brain which makes any colour to look alike. When we see a photo somewhat similarily--means similar wavelengths emitted from photo. So effect is justified. Anyway physiological effects can be based on energy level of photons emitted--which can be via eyes or direct--outer or internally.

Rolfe,

I now do not deny effect f red colur on bull during bulfight as colur may not be recognizable but specific wavelenth effect can be possible.

 

[Kumar]

Do the above discussions not justify effects of various materials based on its specific molecular emissions or spectrum--as astrological effects of GEMS, metals, substances, colour therapy, differant clothes...so many?

 

[Donks]

Donks, I am just interested in how a phtographic paper takes true impression of differant waveleangths. You will agree that what colour wec see may not be in reality. IT IS OUR EYES and brain which makes any colour to look alike. When we see a photo somewhat similarily--means similar wavelengths emitted from photo. So effect is justified. Anyway physiological effects can be based on energy level of photons emitted--which can be via eyes or direct--outer or internally.

So you refuse to look this up. How can you justify something without knowing how it works?
Okay, I am going to try once again to make you think. Go to your TV, turn it on and tune it to whatever channel. Look for something, lets say, yellow. Now walk up to the TV, right up to it, as close as you can, and look at the yellow spot. You'll notice there are only red, blue, and green elements. Do you think the wavelength of the photons coming out of the original yellow object will be the same as the photons coming out of the red, blue and green elements on the yellow spot on your TV?

 

[Donks]

Do the above discussions not justify effects of various materials based on its specific molecular emissions or spectrum--as astrological effects of GEMS, metals, substances, colour therapy, differant clothes...so many?

No. And, you also believe in astrology? Is there any woo belief you do not agree with? Well, at least you are consistent. Evidence, or lack thereof, has no effect on you.

 

[Kumar]

No. And, you also believe in astrology? Is there any woo belief you do not agree with? Well, at least you are consistent. Evidence, or lack thereof, has no effect on you.

All these discussions are evidance/relevance to science only.

 

[flume]

Do the above discussions not justify effects of various materials based on its specific molecular emissions or spectrum--as astrological effects of GEMS, metals, substances, colour therapy, differant clothes...so many?

Probably not.
The discussion was pretty mixed, and I thought it was unclear what was being discussed. What effect are you thinking about?
What part of the discussion?

 

[Kumar]

More exposure to light/lighted objects due to LATE SLEEPING modern habits effected by watching TVs, computers etc. can be a cause of stress due to this light effect(on late sleeping we may not be avoiding mornings natural lights-so overall dark exposures can be 3/6 hrs less).

 

[Kumar]

Probably not.
The discussion was pretty mixed, and I thought it was unclear what was being discussed. What effect are you thinking about?
What part of the discussion?

Do differant wavelengths & differant emissions spectrums effects us or not, accordingly?

 

[Donks]

All these discussions are evidance/relevance to science only.

Show an effect exists from "astrological effects of GEMS, metals, substances, colour therapy, differant clothes," then look for the cause. You insist on looking for a cause for an effect that doesn't exist.

 

[Donks]

Do differant wavelengths & differant emissions spectrums effects us or not, accordingly?

Different wavelengths have different energy levels, thus different effects.

 

[Kumar]

Show an effect exists from "astrological effects of GEMS, metals, substances, colour therapy, differant clothes," then look for the cause. You insist on looking for a cause for an effect that doesn't exist.

Your reply only;

"Different wavelengths have different energy levels, thus different effects."

Differant wavelengths & spectrums emitted on "exposure to light " of all above mentined things etc. can effect us differantly & accordingly.

I have few questions;

Q1; Does slighest change in spectrum of emitted wavelengths from any molecular structure can cause much differant effects as happens in case of molecular differances i.e. CO2 & CO?

Q2. There are three basic colours. Do all wavelengths in visible spectrum (may be not visible also) are a combination of these three or any of these three wavelengths?

Q3. Are non-visible wavelengths are our eye's weakness to see them--but effects are still there?

Q4. Can there be any combination of differant wavelengths which may make any wavelength invisible or transparent?

Q5. Does structural formula of any molecule (think about protiens) may mean differances in emitted spectrum so differant effects?

Q6. How emissions can be possible inside our body where no light is there?

 

[MRC_Hans]

I have few questions;

Q1; Does slighest change in spectrum of emitted wavelengths from any molecular structure can cause much differant effects as happens in case of molecular differances i.e. CO2 & CO?

CO2/CO is not a slight difference. No, slight changes in spectrum do not change effects.

Q2. There are three basic colours. Do all wavelengths in visible spectrum (may be not visible also) are a combination of these three or any of these three wavelengths?

No, there are not three basic colors. However, our EYES react to three colors. So with three colors, we can make our eyes PERCEIVE all visible colors. For instance, if you combine red and green light, your eyes will see yellow. This does not mean that red+green=yellow, yellow is a different wavelength from both, but your EYES are not able to tell the difference.

Q3. Are non-visible wavelengths are our eye's weakness to see them--but effects are still there?

Yes, the "visible spectrum" is defined by the abilities of the human eye. Invisible light can affect you in various ways, for instance, UV can give you a sunburn, and IR can warm you.

Q4. Can there be any combination of differant wavelengths which may make any wavelength invisible or transparent?

No.

Q5. Does structural formula of any molecule (think about protiens) may mean differances in emitted spectrum so differant effects?

No, spectral emission lines depend only on elements.

Q6. How emissions can be possible inside our body where no light is there?

Which emissions?

Hans

 

[Kumar]

CO2/CO is not a slight difference. No, slight changes in spectrum do not change effects.

Thanks, Can you consider slight change by just one atomic number change? It become differant element? Slight change in spectrum can be change in colour & arrangement of atoms.

No, there are not three basic colors. However, our EYES react to three colors. So with three colors, we can make our eyes PERCEIVE all visible colors. For instance, if you combine red and green light, your eyes will see yellow. This does not mean that red+green=yellow, yellow is a different wavelength from both, but your EYES are not able to tell the difference.

Why we consider red, green, blue as basic instead red, yellow & blue? Do we also emit non-visible wavelengths also? How photographic film is designed considering visible & nin-visible WLs?

Yes, the "visible spectrum" is defined by the abilities of the human eye. Invisible light can affect you in various ways, for instance, UV can give you a sunburn, and IR can warm you.

It means "visible spectrum" have no relevance to real effects which may depend on real exposures of wavelengths & spectrums.

No, spectral emission lines depend only on elements.

Can't there be differance in pattern/arrangement of wavelengths in emission spectrum of any molecular structure with same elements in it? Does spectrum is in accordance to wavelengths as rainbow, or in accordance to how/in which line wavelenths are emitted?

Q6. How emissions can be possible inside our body where no light is there?

Which emissions?

Don't our bogy produces energy/ies within it & without exposure to light?

 

[MRC_Hans]

Thanks, Can you consider slight change by just one atomic number change? It become differant element? Slight change in spectrum can be change in colour & arrangement of atoms.

Just one atomic number is not a slight change, it makes it a totally different element. Look here.

Why we consider red, green, blue as basic instead red, yellow & blue?

Because those are the ones our eyes react to.

Do we also emit non-visible wavelengths also?

Yes. IR (heat).

How photographic film is designed considering visible & nin-visible WLs?

It mostlyy fits the human eye, but you can get IR film.

It means "visible spectrum" have no relevance to real effects which may depend on real exposures of wavelengths & spectrums.

Except that most of what you call real effects is visual; we se something and react to it. The real effects from other (near-visual) parts of the spectrum is quite limited.

Can't there be differance in pattern/arrangement of wavelengths in emission spectrum of any molecular structure with same elements in it?

No.

Does spectrum is in accordance to wavelengths as rainbow, or in accordance to how/in which line wavelenths are emitted?

I don't understand the question.

Don't our bogy produces energy/ies within it & without exposure to light?

No energies are produced. But our body transfers, converts, and stores energy in a number of ways, mostly chemical.

Hans

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Thanks, Can you consider slight change by just one atomic number change? It become differant element? Slight change in spectrum can be change in colour & arrangement of atoms.

Just one atomic number is not a slight change, it makes it a totally different element. Look here. [/B]

I think you've misunderstood his error. I think he doesn't comprehend what a molecular formula means and thinks that the difference between CO2 and CO is that the O atoms are different, and this is what the number 2 denotes.

Have you also noticed that he is going through another one of his phases of just spitting out lists of wild questions each of which requires pages of bottom to top explanation for a novice to understand the answer?

 

[MRC_Hans]

BSM, I have long since given up putting sense in Kumar's head. I just take it as an exercise in making good, simple explanations. I hope somebody out there can get something out of it. At any rate I love to lecture, so.....

Hans