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Can photograph effect?


Rogatis quot fermenti Kumar Nos
Bibere, puellae, coactaret emptitareque.
Maior quam mare vastum, meae pulcherae.
 
Kumar said:
Why, you can't say this. Interactions & effects between two objects can be by photons-atoms/molecules interactions between them(I am not considering other effects).
Not only can I say it, I just did.
Any object will reflect wavelength similar to its colour & will absorb other. I can't say about non-visible wave lengths. If colours & dimentions(this can also change colours on photo) are same or somewhat same of photo & person--reflection/ reflected wavelengths will be same or somewhat same of both. Is it wrong?
Yes, it is, but that wasn't my point. I recomend you research how photography works, how the prints are made, what are additive and substractive colors, how TV produces colors, and finally how the eye works. Then think for a few minutes and see if you can figure out why you're wrong.
 
neutrino_cannon said:

Rogatis quot fermenti Kumar Nos
Bibere, puellae, coactaret emptitareque.
Maior quam mare vastum, meae pulcherae.
Are you trying to impress us with your l33t latin skillz? Well, you are succeeding.
 
spectrum - definition from gcide
Spectrum \Spec"trum\, n.; pl. Spectra. [L. See Specter.]
1. An apparition; a specter. [Obs.]
[1913 Webster]

2. (Opt.)
(a) The several colored and other rays of which light is
composed, separated by the refraction of a prism or
other means, and observed or studied either as spread
out on a screen, by direct vision, by photography, or
otherwise. See Illust. of Light, and Spectroscope.
(b) A luminous appearance, or an image seen after the eye
has been exposed to an intense light or a strongly
illuminated object. When the object is colored, the
image appears of the complementary color, as a green
image seen after viewing a red wafer lying on white
paper. Called also ocular spectrum.
[1913 Webster]

Absorption spectrum, the spectrum of light which has passed
through a medium capable of absorbing a portion of the
rays. It is characterized by dark spaces, bands, or lines.


Chemical spectrum, a spectrum of rays considered solely
with reference to their chemical effects, as in
photography. These, in the usual photogrophic methods,
have their maximum influence at and beyond the violet
rays, but are not limited to this region.

Chromatic spectrum, the visible colored rays of the solar
spectrum, exhibiting the seven principal colors in their
order, and covering the central and larger portion of the
space of the whole spectrum.

Continous spectrum, a spectrum not broken by bands or
lines, but having the colors shaded into each other
continously, as that from an incandescent solid or liquid,
or a gas under high pressure.

Diffraction spectrum, a spectrum produced by diffraction,
as by a grating.

Gaseous spectrum, the spectrum of an incandesoent gas or
vapor, under moderate, or especially under very low,
pressure. It is characterized by bright bands or lines.

Normal spectrum, a representation of a spectrum arranged
upon conventional plan adopted as standard, especially a
spectrum in which the colors are spaced proportionally to
their wave lengths, as when formed by a diffraction
grating.

Ocular spectrum. See Spectrum, 2
(b), above.

Prismatic spectrum, a spectrum produced by means of a
prism.

Solar spectrum, the spectrum of solar light, especially as
thrown upon a screen in a darkened room. It is
characterized by numerous dark lines called Fraunhofer
lines.

Spectrum analysis, chemical analysis effected by comparison
of the different relative positions and qualities of the
fixed lines of spectra produced by flames in which
different substances are burned or evaporated, each
substance having its own characteristic system of lines.


Thermal spectrum, a spectrum of rays considered solely with
reference to their heating effect, especially of those
rays which produce no luminous phenomena.
[1913 Webster]

spectrum - definition from wn
spectrum
n 1: an ordered array of the components of an emission or wave
2: broad range of related values or qualities or ideas or
activities


Emission spectrum
n : spectrum of electromagnetic radiation emitted by a
self-luminous source

http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/ spectrum

We have definitions of several spectrums. Don't differant spectrums effects us differantly?
 
Donks said:


Yes, it is, but that wasn't my point. I recomend you research how photography works, how the prints are made, what are additive and substractive colors, how TV produces colors, and finally how the eye works. Then think for a few minutes and see if you can figure out why you're wrong.

I am just concerned about true colours & dimentions of photo, similar to person. Photographic material, person's compositions etc. may have no relevance here.
 
Kumar said:
I am just concerned about true colours & dimentions of photo, similar to person. Photographic material, person's compositions etc. may have no relevance here.
I recomend you, at the very least, check out how human vision works. There's more than one way to see a color.
 
Donks said:
I recomend you, at the very least, check out how human vision works. There's more than one way to see a color.

Will two objects of exactly same colour but made up differant material will reflect same wavelengths or not?

Light and COLOUR.


ONLY using special instruments.

Spectrum
Spectrum contains precise information about the distribution of vibration energy for various frequencies (wavelengths) of light. Current definition of spectrum it is limited to EM (electromagnetic) vibration. We cannot measure spectrum with our eyes.

How do we SEE Color
Our eyes contain only 3 types of photosensitive cells: Red, Green and Blue (RGB). These are vibration sensors. They operate using the principle of a resonance and they are “tuned” for 3 frequencies: red green and blue.

Sensation of color is created in our brain by averaging and recognizing millions of different combinations of Red, Green and Blue. It is well known, that many totally different spectra (vibrations of light) will produce exactly the same color sensation in our eyes. For example, a sensation of green color can be achieved in many ways, for example:

>by mixing 2 frequencies: blue and yellow
>by providing a single frequency green light

Our eyes cannot distinguish any color difference between the above cases, even though the corresponding spectra (vibration of light) are totally different.

We can train our eyes and brain to perceive much more, by aiming to develop the auric sight.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/health_/colour.htm

Newton observed that color is not inherent in objects. Rather, the surface of an object reflects some colors and absorbs all the others. We perceive only the reflected colors.

http://www.pantone.com/products/products.asp?idArticle=111&idArea=16

We shouls also think--how we see similar image of same colour on photo as of any person?
 
Kumar said:
Will two objects of exactly same colour but made up differant material will reflect same wavelengths or not?
Some might. Some don't.
 
Donks said:
Some might. Some don't.

It means "some might" or somewhat possible.

Do same two wavelengths & spectrum effects us similarily AND differant wavelengths/specturums effects us differantly or not?

Good reading.what is color?
 
You are right, Kumar: Two objects that emit the same spectrum will affect us in the same way. So a, red object, and a photo of the same object (assuming a perfect photo, which does, of course, not exist) will affect us in exactly the same way, even though the substances and the chemistry are entirely different.

SO, there goes your theory of remedy information from photons, I'm afraid. As we have told you countless times, a photon of a given wavelength is identical to any other photon of the same wavelength, no matter where they come from.

Now that you have viewed it from your own angle, perhaps you understand it?

Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
You are right, Kumar: Two objects that emit the same spectrum will affect us in the same way. So a, red object, and a photo of the same object (assuming a perfect photo, which does, of course, not exist) will affect us in exactly the same way, even though the substances and the chemistry are entirely different.

Perfect photo may not be possible(but we can try & do if specifically interested), but somewhat can be possible. In means photos can somewhat effect similarily to any person's effect.

SO, there goes your theory of remedy information from photons, I'm afraid. As we have told you countless times, a photon of a given wavelength is identical to any other photon of the same wavelength, no matter where they come from.

I didn't mentioned about homeopathy. It does not look relevant also unless you accept part excitation, information stored on energy travel(may be according to 2nd law of thermo....) I didn't/never differanciated between photon of a given wavelength with any other photon of the same wavelength, no matter where they come from. But same two spectrum of differant energy levels can behave sililarily.

Now that you have viewed it from your own angle, perhaps you understand it?

Your views should also confirm it.

Hans [/B]
:)
 
Perfect photo may not be possible(but we can try & do if specifically interested), but somewhat can be possible. In means photos can somewhat effect similarily to any person's effect.

It has. You can recognize the person, you can see what mood the person was in, when the picture was taken, etc.

I didn't mentioned about homeopathy.

It has been quite some time since you could hide an agenda, here, Kumar ;).

It does not look relevant also unless you accept part excitation,

But we don't. It does not exist (this is an absolute; the world would be entirely different if it existed)

information stored on energy travel

Transmissions of energy can contain information, but it is not stored.

(may be according to 2nd law of thermo....)

Nonsense. Please don't refer to the 2nd law of thermodynamics, unless you understand it, otherwise you make a fool of yourself (I know this advice is a little late, still ;)).

I didn't/never differanciated between photon of a given wavelength with any other photon of the same wavelength, no matter where they come from.

Your theory required it, however. But I am not too surprised that you did not understand the logic consequences of your thory.

But same two spectrum of differant energy levels can behave sililarily.

That sentence does not make sense at all.


Hans
 
I know it's not his first language and all, but I cannot understand half of what Kumar is saying. It's actually making me question my grasp on English. I think what he's saying should make sense, so I must be the one at fault.
 
Yaotl said:
I know it's not his first language and all, but I cannot understand half of what Kumar is saying. It's actually making me question my grasp on English. I think what he's saying should make sense, so I must be the one at fault.
You could try using babelfish to translate Kumarian into another language (any language will do) and then into English.
 
In above sense all substances can effect us as per their colours. Light exposures may be necessary & proportional to this effect. Body fluids, Engyme & hormone secretions, CPE, etc. can be related to this "Light-Colour effect". More chewing, more exposure to open & day atmosphere, body discharges & their reabsorptions(nose, eye discharges, sweat, urine etc.)--all can be related to this"Light-Colour effect". Strains on watching more TVs, computers, movies, fast colours etc. can be related to this effect. Colour effects as per "colour therapies/chromodynamics" is alo relevant.

When we mix two substances--we may get some change in colours- so specturms-so"Light-Colour effects".

I do not see anything wrong in it, scientifically. ;)
 
Yaotl said:
I know it's not his first language and all, but I cannot understand half of what Kumar is saying. It's actually making me question my grasp on English. I think what he's saying should make sense, so I must be the one at fault.
Bit differant. Anyway it should be more meaningful & easy--if you want & could understand on actual basis rather than ego/ crude-technical basis. Everything can be energetic & crude materiastic.
 
Kumar said:
In above sense all substances can effect us as per their colours. Light exposures may be necessary & proportional to this effect.

When we mix two substances--we may get some change in colours- so specturms-so"Light-Colour effects".

I do not see anything wrong in it, scientifically.

There's nothing at all wrong with it except for the fact that it's entirely based on unsupported speculation, and when you look for evidence, you find that it doesn't work.

"In above sense," I may be a billionaire supermodel with a Nobel Prize and a private Greek island who is the heir to the kingdom of Ruthenia. There's nothing wrong "in" that, either, scientifically speaking. It just happens not to be true. (To my sorrow, alas.)

As a rudimentary checking of facts -- have any supermodels ever won Nobel Prizes? -- would uncover.
 
Kumar said:
In above sense all substances can effect us as per their colours. Light exposures may be necessary & proportional to this effect. Body fluids, Engyme & hormone secretions, CPE, etc. can be related to this "Light-Colour effect". More chewing, more exposure to open & day atmosphere, body discharges & their reabsorptions(nose, eye discharges, sweat, urine etc.)--all can be related to this"Light-Colour effect". Strains on watching more TVs, computers, movies, fast colours etc. can be related to this effect. Colour effects as per "colour therapies/chromodynamics" is alo relevant.

When we mix two substances--we may get some change in colours- so specturms-so"Light-Colour effects".

I do not see anything wrong in it, scientifically. ;)
Didn't your mother teach you to chew with your mouth closed?
And, I don't see anything right with it, scientifically or otherwise.
 
Kumar said:
Bit differant. Anyway it should be more meaningful & easy--if you want & could understand on actual basis rather than ego/ crude-technical basis. Everything can be energetic & crude materiastic.

He did it again! Is he actually replying to me or accidently quoted me instead of someone else?
 

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