Can modern systems be Paranormal...?

Cr@p! I want a do over. I have never seen any properly controlled double blind studies about Kumar's existance. Until I'm presented with such evidence, my contention is that Kumar does not exist.
 
Are you people running for sainthood or something? The only people I have ever seen that were so patient with the extremely hard to educate were were working with the developmentally disabled.
 
Well, I AM a social worker.

I know better than to argue with him though. Kumar would be the kind of client who would eat up six hours of your day when you have 90 other clients to take care of. You couldn't just give him the food stamps application and the appointment time; you'd have to sit there and help him fill it out, call him to remind him of the time and tell him three times to be sure he has his ID and application. The next day you'll have to take your whole morning to pick him up, drive him there, sit with him throughout the appointment and assist him with filling out the form AGAIN because he will have lost it in the meantime.

Then the next day, he'll call you to ask you when the appointment for his food stamps is.

So basically, I just come here for the laughs.

(Oh, and I've learned a huge amount from Rolfe, Hans, et al. about science.)
 
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‘ ’ quotation marks single (or chiefly British inverted commas)
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Mojo,

You could have also used other choices. Why you only used? For self purpose--vested interests?;)
 
Kumar said:

Mojo,

You could have also used other choices. Why you only used? For self purpose--vested interests?;)
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No Kumar, because that's the way search engines (in this case Google) work.
 
arthwollipot said:
Kumar, you might find this helpful:

http://www.google.com.au/help/basics.html

It will tell you how to use Google.

In particular, this bit tells you how to search on a phrase. You will notice that it specifies that you have to use double quotes.

If you want to blame someone, blame the person who invented search engines, not the person who followed instructions.
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Taking out skin from hair is not practical. I have mentioned a sentance, not quoted phrase designed in inverted commas.
 
But you see Kumar, the way search engines work is this:

If you type kumar is intelligent into Google, it will find pages that have the words "kumar" and "intelligent" on the same page. That's what the Help page means when it says

By default, Google only returns pages that include all of your search terms. There is no need to include "and" between terms. Keep in mind that the order in which the terms are typed will affect the search results. To restrict a search further, just include more terms. For example, to plan a vacation to Hawaii, simply type vacation hawaii.
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If you actually want to search on the phrase "kumar is intelligent", you have to enclose it in double quotes. Then Google will return all the pages that contain that exact phrase - all three words, in that order.

When you omit the double quotes, the word "is" is ignored and any page that contains the words "kumar" and "intelligent" in any order will be found, including the ones that say "kumar is not very intelligent" and "kumar and intelligent are two words that do not belong in the same sentence." So you don't get an accurate idea of how many pages say that you're intelligent.

By using double quotes, you omit these results, getting a count of only the pages that say "kumar is intelligent" - those exact words in that order.

Is this a little clearer?

The curse of working in IT support!
 
It can be correct in your sense, but it can lead to wrong results also. Just look how it deviating the facts:

" iron is required for anemia" & " iron is not required for anemia"

OR

"arthwollipot is intelligent"

OR

"sun looks to be rising from the east"

Does it not an evidance of : how much you are misunderstanding/deviating from knowledge under a "closed System" of inverted commas? Do you anticipate/do these types of sientific searches? Just have a look to related various truths by putting them in inverted commas & do google search. Now any one can understand manipulations or ignorances or 'removing skin from hair'-- can result what;) :p :D :)
 
If you're using the Internet to search for "scientific truths" then you're probably going to be bitterly disappointed. You'd do better off looking through the archives of Science magazine. To paraphrase, there's lies, damned lies, and the Internet.

Tell me - if I am looking for pages that claim that I am intelligent, why does it make sense to find pages that say "arthwollipot is not intelligent"?

If I search for arthwollipot is intelligent, that's exactly what I might get - a page that says arthwollipot is not intelligent - simply because I did not put the phrase in quotes.

If I search for "arthwollipot is intelligent" (including quotes) then I will find only those pages which contain the phrase arthwollipot is intelligent and not those that contain the phrase arthwollipot is not intelligent, thus fulfilling my egocentric desire to validate my self-image.
 
Most of facts, truths, scientific/other systems reports, scince magzines etc. are mentined/available on various sties on internet. You can get the related informations by "open search" whereas " you may not get when restrict yourselves within inverted commas.

Just look again with example:-

Thirsty crow asked the brain's google;

" can I drink water from pot" ;Result/awnsers, nil.

can I drink water from pot + 18,50,000 awnsers

Some awnsers can be wrong on open search, but still you can found the required informations, which can save from 'to die from thirst'.:(

Now, I think you better got understood, how much you may be loosing in ' closed systems" narrow mindidness, restrictions..etc. May be in 18,50,000: 0 ratio.:( :p Try to check facts with ow without closed system/restrictions/inverte commas.

Look other with vested interest/miss/weakness:-

Fox asked google:-

"Are grapes sweat" : awnser nil-so she made it grapes sour.

Are grapes sweat : 141000 awnsers.

If she used open mindedness, she could get some awnser for getting grapes but by close search she got nothing alongwith a bad example for future.:p

Probably some belief/skepticism/no belief/disbelief/messes/weakness/enery/molecular presence...(rest search on google/brain google open or closed):D are involved in this 'become dynamic/different knowledge(thanks)'--Crow thought "I need water badly, I can drink, I can found the way..so exampled as intelligent a good example for future...

Fox thought : I unable, I can't pick, is beyond my rach, I don't need badly....so exampled as foolish for future...

Thanks,I/we(?) learned a lot dynamic from this post.

Best wishes.:)
 
Kumar said:
‘ ’ quotation marks single (or chiefly British inverted commas)
http://www.m-w.com/mw/table/punctuat.htm

Mojo,

You could have also used other choices. Why you only used? For self purpose--vested interests?;)
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I used the phrases "Kumar is intelligent" and "Kumar is an idiot" because they were the phrases you originally introduced into this discussion (although I corrected your grammar in the second one, of course). You chose the phrases: any vested interest here must be yours.

If you're talking about my use of punctuation, well, as arthwollipot said, that's just how Google works.
 
Mojo said:
I used the phrases "Kumar is intelligent" and "Kumar is an idiot" because they were the phrases you originally introduced into this discussion (although I corrected your grammar in the second one, of course). You chose the phrases: any vested interest here must be yours.

If you're talking about my use of punctuation, well, as arthwollipot said, that's just how Google works.
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I editted & added some more knowledge to my previous post. Just read again. By following dynamism, we can be get, flexible, edit & correct many things. Otherwise?????

You can see the results/efects of just correcting/looking out at grammer not on real meaning.
 
Kumar said:
Most of facts, truths, scientific/other systems reports, scince magzines etc. are mentined/available on various sties on internet.
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While there is some good information on the internet, there is also an awful lot of garbage.
You can get the related informations by "open search" whereas " you may not get when restrict yourselves within inverted commas.

Just look again with example:-

Thirsty crow asked the google;

" can I drink water from pot" ;Result/awnsers, nil.

can I drink water from pot + 18,50,000 awnsers

Some awnsers can be wrong on open search, but still you can found the required informations, which can save from 'to die from thirst'.:(

Now, I think you better got understood, how much you may be loosing in ' closed systems" narrow mindidness, restrictions..etc. May be in 18,50,000: 0 ratio.:( :p Try to check facts with ow without closed system/restrictions/inverte commas.

Look other with vested interest/miss/weakness:-

Fox asked google:-

"Are grapes sweat" : awnser nil-so she made it grapes sour.

Are grapes sweat : 141000 awnsers.

If she used open mindedness, she could get some awnser for getting grapes but by close search she got nothing alongwith a bad example for future.:p
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You don't seem to understand what Google does. It does not provide answers to questions; it merely finds words and phrases on the internet. Typing in a question will just produce a list of web pages containing the words in the question. Worse, if you don't put your phrase in quotation marks, it will just find pages where those words appear in any order and not necessarily together. I hate to break this to you, but English is a language in which the order the words are in is vitally important as far as meaning goes.

Anyway, I would have thought that sweaty grapes would leave a nasty taste in your mouth.
 
Kumar said:
Fox asked google:-

"Are grapes sweat" : awnser nil-so she made it grapes sour.

Are grapes sweat : 141000 awnsers.

If she used open mindedness, she could get some awnser for getting grapes but by close search she got nothing alongwith a bad example for future.:p
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This is absolutely hysterical! (Mojo, I doubt if Kumar understood your comment.)

Kumar, what you have illustrated here is the necessity for typing the correct word. If you type a word you do not mean, Google does not understand that, and returns pages containing the words you actually typed. (OK, sometimes it will recognise a common mis-spelling, but it won't know if you simply type the wrong word as Kumar did.)

Kumar, "sweat" is the liquid secreted by your skin when you get hot. The way sugar tastes is "sweet".

Grapes are not the liquid secreted by your skin when you get hot, so it's hardly a surprise that there are no pages on ths Internet which state that they are.

Searching for - are grapes sweat - (with no quote marks) will simply get you any page at all in which the two words "grapes" and "sweat" appear at any point. Even separated by many paragraphs of text. No matter how many pages this search returns, none of them will give you the information that grapes are sweet!

However, I just dod the proper search, "are grapes sweet", using the quote marks. I got only two pages. This one first, which told me
E20 Are grapes sweet?
FG Right now is the time of year when grapes are sweetest.
E20 If you had to rate the five sweetest fruits, what would they be?
FG Right now, would be pears, grapes, Washington state delicious apples.
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Exactly the information I was looking for.

The second page is perhaps less informative, nevertheless the germ of the correct answer is also discernable.
Popping a grape into her mouth, Soxan watched her daughter and saw a look of confusion cross her face. A question was coming; hopefully it would be something easy such as "Why are grapes sweet?" instead of something difficult like, "Why are the stars sometimes dots, sometimes lines?" Soxan didn't feel up to putting warp theory and quantum physics into terms her daughter could use; explaining the biochemistry of taste was much easier.
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(What is it about that last quote that reminds me of this thread...?)

Kumar, it's not about the number of hits returned by Google. It's about whether one of the hits actually gives you the information you need. One hit, from a properly phrased search, will do it. Several million hits, from a random search on a couple of words in any order, probably won't - and if one of the words isn't the word you meant to use, definitely not.

Oh, why am I bothering?

Rolfe.
 
Kumar, what exactly do you think your Argument by Googlefight (TM me :D) proves? Do you think this is evidence of anything?
 
Mojo, Rolfe,

Google, internet, computers....are development & part of modern systems. These should be "scientific", normal, scientific naturals". If not, it can prove my doubts as per this topic.

Let us check by practical experiance:-

Suppose I don't know taste of common salt & I want to know it.
I have a scientific tool-computer with internet. I asked/searched for at google;

What is taste of Sodium chloride?. This gave me 148000 hits. Along with taste of salt, I got many informations about it by open search.

Now I searched google by typing scientific/closed/proper/grammatical way:

"What is taste of Sodium chloride?"

Just see what I got. NIL RESULTS. Should I then close my search or go for open system.

Even though it may look better, birds & animals in cage. They may better food & care better. They may avoid some attacks & accicidents. They may therefore, survive more also. BUT STILL those birds & animal like 'living in cage or not & how will be their evolution not survival??

Would you like to live within inverted commas or in a closed system? NO? WHY? Because nature, adaptations, habits, limitlessness. We may have borned free but always in chain BUT still may like to remain free alike free energy, atoms.....

So just don't limit yourself or "self caged yourself".
 
Donks said:
Kumar, what exactly do you think your Argument by Googlefight (TM me :D) proves? Do you think this is evidence of anything?
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I mean, all which they feel/finds/think or make may not be well/right. All is not well.:D

If all is not well, it can indicate my thoughts about paranormal, supernatural or pseudoscientific--may be somewhat right in common sense.
 
Kumar said:
Mojo, Rolfe,

Google, internet, computers....are development & part of modern systems. These should be "scientific", normal, scientific naturals". If not, it can prove my doubts as per this topic.
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They are scientific and normal. Care to show anything paranormal about a computer?
Let us check by practical experiance:-

Suppose I don't know taste of common salt & I want to know it.
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Errr... it tastes salty?
I have a scientific tool-computer with internet. I asked/searched for at google;
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What do you think this provides? Scientific evidence or pages with information which might or might not be scientific?
What is taste of Sodium chloride?. This gave me 148000 hits. Along with taste of salt, I got many informations about it by open search.

Now I searched google by typing scientific/closed/proper/grammatical way:

"What is taste of Sodium chloride?"
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This is not the "scientific" way. And it's not grammatically correct either.
Just see what I got. NIL RESULTS. Should I then close my search or go for open system.
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Because salt tastes salty, by definition.
Even though it may look better, birds & animals in cage. They may better food & care better. They may avoid some attacks & accicidents. They may therefore, survive more also. BUT STILL those birds & animal like 'living in cage or not & how will be their evolution not survival??
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Yest another Kumanalogy, which is absolutely meaningless. Also by definition.
Would you like to live within inverted commas or in a closed system? NO? WHY? Because nature, adaptations, habits, limitlessness. We may have borned free but always in chain BUT still may like to remain free alike free energy, atoms.....
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Another meaningless string of words.

So just don't limit yourself or "self caged yourself".
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The only one who limits himself is you. You limit the amount of knowledge you are willing to accept (to zero). You wouldn't know something scientific if it bit you in the ass.

Kumar, what does any of this have to do whether modern systems are paranormal or not? Do you have any evidence that they are? I can explain to you how computers work down to the silicon, yet somehow I doubt you're getting that explanation anytime soon.
 
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