Can a Christian have a demon?

athon said:


And what would you have done with it? Would you have looked after it? Cleaned up after it? Gone to the store to by it tins of souls when it got hungry?

Too many demons are left to wander to streets after people like you get one, play with it for a while and then get bored with it.

Remember, demons aren't just for Christmas, they're for life!

Athon

I would have been a most responsible demon owner!
 
Re: Re: Re: I've demons running all through me!

imekon said:


I threw a fit - I was sitting in a chair and my arms and legs thrashed around as I sat there. I've never had anything like it before or since.

Thankfully, there is a rational explanation for it, one that doesn't involve demons.



I know nothing about you but a neurological consult might have been more appropriate than an excorcism.

Regardless, I'm glad it hasn't happened again.
 
I have a demon. He's a nasty little bugger who eats a lot of my food, chews up all my socks, causes no end of damage to my paperwork.

But he's jus so darn cute!

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athon said:


And what would you have done with it? Would you have looked after it? Cleaned up after it? Gone to the store to by it tins of souls when it got hungry?

Too many demons are left to wander to streets after people like you get one, play with it for a while and then get bored with it.

Remember, demons aren't just for Christmas, they're for life!

Athon

Don't take a demon as a pet - they are more annoying than a tamagotchi.
 
I would say that if you find the concept of Good & Evil nonsensical, that it is highly likely you will also find the concept of demons equally nonsensical.

Demon = A highly evolved (superior) evil consciousness.

Of course if you also believe that homo sapiens are undoubtedly the most evolved consciousness in existence you have another reason to find the concept of Demons absurd.

Is Good & Evil a figment of the imagination … an illusion?

Are homo sapiens undoubtedly the most evolved consciousness in existence? I didn’t realize that had been so conclusively proven … ?
 
Franko said:
I would say that if you find the concept of Good & Evil nonsensical, that it is highly likely you will also find the concept of demons equally nonsensical.

Demon = A highly evolved (superior) evil consciousness.

Of course if you also believe that homo sapiens are undoubtedly the most evolved consciousness in existence you have another reason to find the concept of Demons absurd.

Is Good & Evil a figment of the imagination … an illusion?

Are homo sapiens undoubtedly the most evolved consciousness in existence? I didn’t realize that had been so conclusively proven … ?

Your definition of demon is not the generally accepted one.

What is being discussed is an Evil Supernatural being.

So one can easily belive in evil, and also accept that humans may not be the most advanced itellects and still laugh hysterically at the concept of demons.
 
Franko said:
I would say that if you find the concept of Good & Evil nonsensical, that it is highly likely you will also find the concept of demons equally nonsensical.

Demon = A highly evolved (superior) evil consciousness.

You say there cannot be any coherent concept of evil without "demons," yet you define a demon as something evil. No concept of evil is established by your reasoning, or lack of it.

Perhaps you should try to discuss what evil is before you bring demons into it.
 
sorgoth said:
Heh....Silly devil. Possesing people. BRING THE FLAMES, WUSS!


...Sorry, it's just a pet peeve of mine that if the devil can possess people, he doesn't do it RIGHT.
LOL! I propose we right up a document detailing proper possession for the devil to brush up his techniques some, obviously books & movies such as The Exorcist haven't helped him much, they seem to aid the priests having to perform exorcisms more than they do ol' nick.
 
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TruthSeeker said:

I know nothing about you but a neurological consult might have been more appropriate than an excorcism.

Regardless, I'm glad it hasn't happened again.

The people I was with were convinced the bible held all the answers to everything they ever needed. It never occured to them to look outside - in fact they descouraged me from doing so.

I did eventually talk to a counsellor, who gave me an immediate and simple explanation of what really happened.

At the time of the "fit", we were discussing baptism. I'd just been to a CofE baptism and witnessed sprinkling of water on the forehead. I decided to be baptised a believer myself but forgot I was doing to a baptist church - they practice full immersion there.

When my friends told me this, I became scared - as a child I nearly drowned in a swimming pool, so I'm afraid of water. I remember I tried to tell them this... but threw this unexpected and scary fit instead.

They thought it was demon possession - after all, it fitted their picture. They didn't bother to check that it might be something else... I did check and descovered I'd simply relived my drowning accident. My arms and legs thrashed around because I was "drowning" again, arising out of the conflict of wanting to be baptised but being scared of full immersion. I don't recall thrashing around in my accident - my counsellor helped me see I'd supressed that memory.
 
Isn't it amazing what a little rational analysis of available facts reveals. A succinct and highly plausible, if not THE answer.

Regarding devils or demons or djinns or whatever, I always like to ask so-called believers who is more powerful, God or the devils. They say, "God" every time. Then I ask, "Then why doesn't he just eradicate devils, djinns, in fact all evils in the world? Can he not do that?" Then the excuses just FLOW...!
 
Well, if we define "demon" as "mind virus", then I would say that most Atheists have demons.
 
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imekon said:


The people I was with were convinced the bible held all the answers to everything they ever needed. It never occured to them to look outside - in fact they descouraged me from doing so.

I did eventually talk to a counsellor, who gave me an immediate and simple explanation of what really happened.

At the time of the "fit", we were discussing baptism. I'd just been to a CofE baptism and witnessed sprinkling of water on the forehead. I decided to be baptised a believer myself but forgot I was doing to a baptist church - they practice full immersion there.

When my friends told me this, I became scared - as a child I nearly drowned in a swimming pool, so I'm afraid of water. I remember I tried to tell them this... but threw this unexpected and scary fit instead.

They thought it was demon possession - after all, it fitted their picture. They didn't bother to check that it might be something else... I did check and descovered I'd simply relived my drowning accident. My arms and legs thrashed around because I was "drowning" again, arising out of the conflict of wanting to be baptised but being scared of full immersion. I don't recall thrashing around in my accident - my counsellor helped me see I'd supressed that memory.


Thank you for sharing this personal story. I agree that it sounds very much like a panic attack brought on by the psychological trauma. I'm glad your counsellor was able to help.
 

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