"But Global Warming is a HOAX!!!"

Or this XKCD.



Fox News, Breitbart, etc. Meanwhile the same poster cited "average global temperature". We've just had like four successive days of the highest average global temperatures ever recorded. But hey, it might have snowed in Minnesota last winter so it's a hoax.

If global worming is reel, how kum i gots ice kubes in my freezzer!!!??? HA, CHECKMATE LIBTARDS!!!111!!!11!ELEVENTY!!1
 
And if God didn't want us to be warm, he wouldn't have put all that oil in the ground for us to use! Global Warming is a Satanic lie!

People actually believe that. Including some on this forum, I expect. It's very sad. But I'm almost 75 years old and won't have to live with the consequences. I'm half a mile from the sea but about 250 feet up.
 
idk how you can live on this earth and not notice it's been getting hotter. or be like, oh it's not what smart people are saying, it's what these guys that think covid is fake and vaccines don't work and the water makes you gay are saying it is.
 
People actually believe that. Including some on this forum, I expect. It's very sad. But I'm almost 75 years old and won't have to live with the consequences. I'm half a mile from the sea but about 250 feet up.

Amen to all the above, except I'm 15 years younger, 8 km from the sea and 16 metres above sea level.

I've done everything I can do, including minimising my energy consumption and riding a bicycle to work for 20+ years.

As far as I'm concerned, the proudly stupid, and all of their descendants, deserve what's coming.
 
Global warming? People DIE from the cold!!!

Climate change? The climate is ALWAYS changing!!! And always has!!!!

MAGA!!!​
 
Do people here actually not realise that "Global Warming" refers to average global temperatures?

And that the postulated rise is a fraction of a degree per decade (depending on who collates/massages the numbers)?

If Phoenix, Arizona is unusually hot then somewhere else it's unusually cold.

Comical.

Only fools buy the idea that there is such a thing as "the greenhouse effect", let alone that CO2 is a "greenhouse gas".

What's it like back there in 1985?
 
Do people really still say that?

I thought they had shifted slightly towards, "there's global warming, but no anthropogenic global warming, it's just cyclical".
It depends on where you are and what you do. If you work for Florida's environmental department you are actually legally forbidden to use the terms "global warming" and "climate change" in official correspondence. At least you were. I don't think De Santis has changed that law yet.

I heard somewhere that at some point last week was the hottest day in the recorded history of the earth. Probably just fake news promulgated by big Air.
 
The world recorded its hottest day ever on Thursday, breaking previous highs set on Monday and Tuesday as global average temperatures continue to climb, according to data from the U.S. National Centers on Environmental Prediction. The global average temperature hit 17.23 degrees Celsius (63.01 Fahrenheit) on Thursday, according to the government agency. The record comes days after intense heatwaves in the United States and China, while another killed more than 100 people in Mexico, as temperatures soar globally. Reuters news report

It's J-U-L-Y people! It's SUPPOSED to be hot!! :mad:

MAGA!!!​
 
There should be a word for people who uncritically accept any doomsday climate predictions just because they're ways of showing that they're on the right side and "believe" in global warming. Climate credulists, maybe.

...and the OP is BS. What kind of non-scientist would use the facts that Phoenix, AZ "could hit 120 degrees Fahrenheit" and that has only happened "three times since 1929" to posture about global warming?
 
There should be a word for people who uncritically accept any doomsday climate predictions just because they're ways of showing that they're on the right side and "believe" in global warming. Climate credulists, maybe.

...and the OP is BS. What kind of non-scientist would use the facts that Phoenix, AZ "could hit 120 degrees Fahrenheit" and that has only happened "three times since 1929" to posture about global warming?

Evidence for the acceptance being uncritical? Evidence of doomsday climate predictions in this thread?

Is it not true that Phoenix temperatures will be unusually high?

You can always argue about causes and responsibilities, but is the fact that the entire earth is getting warmer year after year not evidence that the entire earth is getting warmer?

I mean, even if you were right about global warming not being our responsibility, I think you'd be wrong to call it global cooling.
 
Evidence for the acceptance being uncritical? Evidence of doomsday climate predictions in this thread?

That's easy. You need to look no further than the OP. What do you think was the point of that post? Do you think there was any uncritical thought going on there? Be honest.

Is it not true that Phoenix temperatures will be unusually high?

Who cares? What would be the relevance of that?

I mean, even if you were right about global warming not being our responsibility, I think you'd be wrong to call it global cooling.

Hilarious strawman about "global warming" not being "our responsibility". Where do you get this stuff?
 
That's easy. You need to look no further than the OP. What do you think was the point of that post? Do you think there was any uncritical thought going on there? Be honest.



Who cares? What would be the relevance of that?



Hilarious strawman about "global warming" not being "our responsibility". Where do you get this stuff?

My concern is not what everyone here imagines the OP meant, but what was said. The observation was made that temperatures in some places are expected to be unusually hot. In fact, they have been unusually hot, and indications are that this is likely to continue. If you believe this is important, then the relevance of the observation would seem pretty obvious.

You made the specific contention that belief in global warming is "uncritical." That contention is specific as to the belief being uncritical, not to other aspects of its content. You made the contention that "doomsday predictions" were involved here. I certainly have heard such predictions, but I have not seen them here. Have you?

I have difficulty understanding your position. I have heard many arguments that the climate change we're seeing is not our fault. You ask where I come up with such ideas. Are you contending that nobody has ever said this? So now you appear to be saying that it is not happening at all. Are the thermometers lying? Is the earth actually secretly cooling while we simply imagine the droughts, fires, migrations and unprecedented heat?
 
There should be a word for people who uncritically accept any doomsday climate predictions just because they're ways of showing that they're on the right side and "believe" in global warming. Climate credulists, maybe.

...and the OP is BS. What kind of non-scientist would use the facts that Phoenix, AZ "could hit 120 degrees Fahrenheit" and that has only happened "three times since 1929" to posture about global warming?

Do you know differently than these climate scientists?

Can you share some science that shows there is some hope?

I think Bill Gates was saying something like that not long ago, but I don't know where he got that from.
 
Do people here actually not realise that "Global Warming" refers to average global temperatures?
I'm pretty sure they all do. It's just that occasionally a new record high hits someone where they live, as it were.

And that the postulated rise is a fraction of a degree per decade (depending on who collates/massages the numbers)?
An underlying warming trend of about 0.2C every 15 years is huge compared to the natural underlying cooling trend of about 0.2C every thousand years that was prevailing before humanity started burning fossil fuel. You know the current Milankovitch cycle (i.e. the current interglacial period) peaked about six thousand years ago, right?

Remember it's not noise, it's an underlying trend. It means each successive century is going to have an average global temperature about a degree warmer than the previous one. That's a 'mass extinction event' amount of climate change.

If Phoenix, Arizona is unusually hot then somewhere else it's unusually cold.
The number of places that are unusually hot has been greatly exceeding the number of places that are unusually cold for some time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_weather_records

I don't find wilful ignorance particularly amusing, personally.
 
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