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Bush Wins!

circuit slave said:
Of course, not--just being facetious. Now if we can just get this thing finalized--I just made $20 off my cousin. :clap:


P.S. Once again, wheres that guy who also bet me a $10.00 paypal transaction? Anyone?............Anyone?........Bueller? Bueller?


(crickets chirping)
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You're more brave than I. I wouldn't have put any money on it.
 
I do not believe in any god, but thank him/her/it nevertheless-- for lack of anywhere else to throw my sense of overweening gratitude.

Now, those of you who hate/dislike/disapprove of Bush, is there anything you think we reasonable Bush supporters should do to mitigate the harm you feel he will possibly impose? I disagree with him on much socially, and would absolutely be willing to do whatever I could to discourage him from, say, blocking gay marriage.

Naive of me perhaps, but I'd like to unify as much as possible after this polarizing election.
 
Mona said:
I do not believe in any god, but thank him/her/it nevertheless-- for lack of anywhere else to throw my sense of overweening gratitude.

Now, those of you who hate/dislike/disapprove of Bush, is there anything you think we reasonable Bush supporters should do to mitigate the harm you feel he will possibly impose? I disagree with him on much socially, and would absolutely be willing to do whatever I could to discourage him from, say, blocking gay marriage.

Naive of me perhaps, but I'd like to unify as much as possible after this polarizing election.
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OK, let's start with women's issues, most notably hormonal methods of birth control and Dr. Hager. Because, well, I like birth control that works and screwing.

Now, give up Senate dominance. Make either balanced or a Democratic controlled body. With a Republican president, Senate, and House, we're pretty much f:Dked.
 
LostAngeles said:
OK, let's start with women's issues, most notably hormonal methods of birth control and Dr. Hager. Because, well, I like birth control that works and screwing.

Now, give up Senate dominance. Make either balanced or a Democratic controlled body. With a Republican president, Senate, and House, we're pretty much f:Dked.
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I am totally for across-the-board term limits in the Senate and Congress.

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Look at all the Republican wins this time. Louisiana, for chrissake! I don't think Louisiana has ever gone Republican. The Democrats have no one to blame but themselves for dividing this country. They started the rhetoric almost as soon as the Marine's boots touched sand in Iraq. Now they are paying for this obvious political manipulation while human lives are at stake.

I was a Democrat myself before they started in with the Howard Deaniacs and moveon.org / Michael Moore nonsense. Ridiculous.
 
Term limits would stop gerrymandering and give some real competition. Maybe.

For nonexistent deity's sake, I hope Congress works out some election tightening in 2005, LIKE term limits and such. Wouldn't it be great to have worked all this out when there is no pressure or cry of politicization?
 
LostAngeles said:
OK, let's start with women's issues, most notably hormonal methods of birth control and Dr. Hager. Because, well, I like birth control that works and screwing.

Now, give up Senate dominance. Make either balanced or a Democratic controlled body. With a Republican president, Senate, and House, we're pretty much f:Dked.
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With some concern that I expose myself as ignorant, I admit to knowing nothing about any Dr. Hager or the birth control methods you reference. Can you link me to something about that?

But as to Senate dominance, well, I cannot reasonably be expected to void election results.;)
 
Dorian Gray said:
Term limits would stop gerrymandering and give some real competition. Maybe.

For nonexistent deity's sake, I hope Congress works out some election tightening in 2005, LIKE term limits and such. Wouldn't it be great to have worked all this out when there is no pressure or cry of politicization?
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I'm conflicted on that issue. The elctorate always has it in its power to limit terms. Do we need to take that choice from them?

Just not sure on this one.
 
Mona said:
With some concern that I expose myself as ignorant, I admit to knowing nothing about any Dr. Hager or the birth control methods you reference. Can you link me to something about that?

But as to Senate dominance, well, I cannot reasonably be expected to void election results.;)
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You exposed that you can't use Google.

Dr. Hager is on the FDA commision that oversees approval of drugs. He's an OB/GYN who believe that women should pray to relieve menustral cramps among other things.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/hager.htm

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,361521,00.html

http://www.arhp.org/advocacy/legislativenews101602.cfm

Hormonal birth control methods are The Pill, Depo-Provera/Lucenelle, The Patch, NuvaRing, some IUDs, and Norplant, all of which work by preventing ovulation and/or thicken the cerivcal mucus to prevent sperm from fertilizing the egg. The lining of the uterus also doesn't thicken as much, which is part of the reason that some pharmacists have refused to dispense The Pill. Many anti-abortionists see The Pill in particular as an abortifcant.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/10/12/contraceptive.complaint.ap/
 
HOORAY! One step closer to a theocracy! God told me that he was going to do that.
 
Well, to accentuate the positive, if Bush gets a majority in the electoral college it will mean that he has got a majority of both the popular vote and the electoral college and the process for selecting the U.S. president doesn't seem quite so "idiosyncratic".

If Bush is the president, we'll get two terms to assess his economic record, stand or fall at least he will have had a full economic cycle and we'll have four more years to assess his performance in the War on Terror.
 
Mona said:
I do not believe in any god, but thank him/her/it nevertheless-- for lack of anywhere else to throw my sense of overweening gratitude.

Now, those of you who hate/dislike/disapprove of Bush, is there anything you think we reasonable Bush supporters should do to mitigate the harm you feel he will possibly impose? I disagree with him on much socially, and would absolutely be willing to do whatever I could to discourage him from, say, blocking gay marriage.

Naive of me perhaps, but I'd like to unify as much as possible after this polarizing election.
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Simple. Kick Bush and all his cronies, put Powell and some sane people in instead. You get to keep the Republican party in power, and the whole world gets to stay sane and safe and in one piece.

Can do??
 
Congratulations President Bush.

For the sake of the country that I truly love, I honestly hope your second term isn't nearly as disastrous as your first.

Makes you wonder how many jobs one has to lose, how many soldiers have to die and how much debt one can rack up before the people say enough.

People voted out of fear. People voted because of their religious convictions. Oh well, I have to face the fact I don't share the views with the majority of this country.
 
Some popular vote figures for comparison:

2004:

Bush --- 58,033,942
Kerry -- 54,484,707

Total - 112,518,649

2000:

Bush -- 50,456,002
Gore -- 50,999,897

Total - 101,455,899

So, eleven million more votes this year, and every ballot still hasn't been counted.
 
HarryKeogh said:
Makes you wonder how many jobs one has to lose, how many soldiers have to die and how much debt one can rack up before the people say enough.

People voted out of fear. People voted because of their religious convictions. Oh well, I have to face the fact I don't share the views with the majority of this country.
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Sadly, I think you answered the first part with the second.

If the political climate becomes one of ideology and dogma then details like jobs, soldiers and debt don't come into it if one candidate is ideologically opposed to sufficient people to get the other guy elected.
 
AWPrime said:
Kerry still have the force of irony behind him. He may yet win Ohio.
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That would be amusing, but I'd prefer the winner to have the popular and electoral vote wrapped up. Last election was damaging to the stock market and especially American confidence in the process. A decisive victory is something I'm happy about, even if it's not the guy I voted for.
 
Winston Churchill said this on 5 March 1946:
The United States stands at this time at the pinnacle of world power. It is a solemn moment for the American democracy. For with this primacy in power is also joined an awe-inspiring accountability to the future. As you look around you, you must feel not only the sense of duty done, but also you must feel anxiety lest you fall below the level of achievement. Opportunity is here now, clear and shining... To reject it or ignore it or fritter it away will bring upon us all the long reproaches of the aftertime...
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I do think it could be hand-delivered to the next US president, whoever that may be.
 
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