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Bush circumcision goes wrong

As an American I thought this thread was about something totally different.
 
What responsible elders. Undertaking such a ceremony while allegedly drunk. In my opinion they shouldn't be elders.
 
There are some traditional customs still happening in the Northern Territory that I don't agree with such as "smoking the baby", which involves holding a newborn over a fire pit full of leaves that has been lit.
 
What is the legal status of performing such rituals in Australia?

Darat, this is the biggest issue about Australia that bothers me. I'm all for our indigenous people keeping their culture intact but I don't think the bureaucrats know how to deal with certain aspects of it. Some of the traditions are very cruel and could be deemed "uncivilised". Even "payback" still occurs, where people can get a spearing in the leg if found by the elders to be guilty of certain things.

This circumcision is child abuse, I have worked in a hospital in the Northern Territory and many things go unreported. Not all, but many. People just shrug their shoulders and say they should not interfere with another culture.
Also the Northern Territory government employ "liasion officers" at hospitals, who they ask for advice on traditional matters - most of the time the officers advise the non indigenous hospital staff to keep out of the "mens business", "womens business" etc....

I hope this was reported to the police, personally I am not hopeful of a prosecution.
The Northern Territory's Department of Public Prosecutions says that the rights of women to live a live free of violence perpetrated by their husbands/family members takes precedence over traditional law.

http://www.nt.gov.au/justice/dpp/html/guidelines/aboriginal_customary_law.shtml

This is the first time I have seen a media report on botched circumcision, I am sure the DPP could not ignore it.
The boys are usually aged 14-16 when they are circumcised.
 
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Farencue

I'm going to ask you because I think you might know, do you know which people these boys might belong to?
 
I'm from NE Arnhemland Wildy, I don't [personally know the Tennant Creek mob at all.
They might be Warumungu, who are the traditional custodians of the Devil's Marbles I believe.
 
I'm from NE Arnhemland Wildy, I don't [personally know the Tennant Creek mob at all.
They might be Warumungu, who are the traditional custodians of the Devil's Marbles I believe.

Bugger.

Is circumcision common in NE Arnhem Land?
 


Is it common practice to call these rituals " Bush Circumcisions ", or were you just trolling with that ?

I'm not really sure how I am trolling Greg - perhaps you would like to point it out to me?

A circumcision that is done in the bush is called bush circumcision yes.
They are not performed in hospitals but in the bush.
Bush is a term in Australia as in " I'm going bush", "I'm a bushie", "bush camp" "bush people" etc....
 
Is it common practice to call these rituals " Bush Circumcisions ", or were you just trolling with that ?
Why does it have to be a common practice to call them that in order for it not to be trolling? It was circumcision in the bush.
I've found some references to bush circumcisions in peer-reviewed journals.

http://tcn.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/20/4/395
The country has experienced serious problems associated with the practice of this rite ranging from dehydration to death in the traditional "bush" circumcision schools.

http://www.historyofcircumcision.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=66 (citing South African Medical Journal, Vol. 93, No. 8, August 2003 but the link on that page doesn't work)
3. Require that bush circumcision venues pass inspection.

Daniel J. Ncayiyana
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I'm not really sure how I am trolling Greg - perhaps you would like to point it out to me?

A circumcision that is done in the bush is called bush circumcision yes.
They are not performed in hospitals but in the bush.
Bush is a term in Australia as in " I'm going bush", "I'm a bushie", "bush camp" "bush people" etc....

Question answered ...

My suspicion was without merit ..
 

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