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[The Fool]

Crimresearch

Now this is a prime example of why it is virtually impossible to conduct an ongoing debate with you

these are your words...

"So can we include JJ with The Fool on the list of those who heartily approve of racist organizations as long as they are the 'right kind' of racists?"

you try to suggest that you are only posing a question here???... I don't want to lecture you on the use of the english language but you have made a statement here, that I am on a list of people that heartily approve of racist organisations, you "asked" if you can include JJ on it.... Don't be a coward crimresearch. stand up for what you type, running away doesn't help.....

so please point out where I have expressed approval for racist organisations or withdraw this statement.

 

[TillEulenspiegel]

"...Is that necessarily a bad thing? "


Apparently its a bad thing coming from minorities....(or as TillEulenspiegel likes to call them, N****rs without using the asterisks...)

But hey, what do I know, I'm just one of those uppity minorities, who isn't smart enough to know that the superior races, like Till, know what's good for me.

That's why I have to be told how to post, how to think, how to vote, and most importantly, when I am ALLOWED to be offended by racist language, etc.

Because otherwise, I might come across as "politically driven".

(And anyone who assumes that a minority who asks questions must be politically driven could never be a racist...no, no way, no how...).

Hehe this siht is funny or it would be if it weren't so sad . You can't defend or explain properly positions you adopt , you argue with things that don't exist in the debate at hand , only in your own mind. Finally when there is no respite in sight resort to the lowest sort of manipulation, not just name calling or ad-Hom but the tarring of people using the most indelible of stains. Raciest!

Once that epithet is thrown all logic and credibility flys out the window. Doesn't matter if it's true or not . Like calling someone a pedophile or an anti-Semite. The arguments that follow are weighted by having to explain every time one approaches any subject matter remotely close to the "alleged " behavior of the accused. I gave you an opportunity to receive an explanation of a one time use of a word , rather you see it as a tool to trump me somehow and win an argument.

Well ya know what ? My estimation , which was low to begin with, of your character and intelligence has plummeted downward. I 've been on the board a while and the other posters know what I'm about. I won't engage in a defense of my standing to the likes of you. You have shown us all what your made of.

/ignore


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[jj]

It was a question, and your deflection of it is sufficient answer...if you had any real problem with racism, the time to directly answer with an unmistakable 'NO' has passed.

Your question carries a direct accusation, and we all know it, including your would-be buddy Ro bLister, who tried to spin it away.

Your entire dishonest defense is spin, spin, spin. Is your name O'Rielly?

You're also lying when you say that the time for a "NO" has passed. The fact that I refered to your dishonest accusation as "fallacious" is enough, and you knew that when you stated the lie above.

Simply put, your question carries with it a full and complete accusation, and constitutes the exactly the kind of dishonest, unethical behavior in evidence by the "new right" or whatever you call yourself, wherein the goal is to force your opponents to answer an endless stream of lies and false accustations in order to cover the fact that you have no policy other than totalitarianism to offer.

Retract your assertions. All of them.

Likewise, Mr. Lister, retract.

 

[jj]

This whole thread illustrates the problem with conflating cleverness and skepticism.


No, it shows the problems that arise when a false skeptic such as yourself asks a deliberately malicious, misleading question.


I drew a clear line in the sand, namely that racism is wrong, even when practiced by African Americans against Asians, or Hispanics, or Iraqis. I provided real world examples


Your examples are irrelevant and meaningless. I see nobody disputing, or even examining your so-called examples, rather I see people reacting to your attempts to tar your opponents via your malicious, leading questions.


Instead of simply taking a position, some JREFers wanted to have it both ways, showing their facility with semantics and rhetoric....The Fool wanted to ridicule the victims of such racism,


He can speak for himself.


JJ wanted to twist words around, someone else wanted to argue that it wasn't really such a bad thing 'depending'...
And now they all want to hop back across the line and claim innocently to not be racists...


You shall retract that outright lie immediately.


Sorry in this aspect of life, words have meanings AND consequences, and taking up for racism isn't just an intellectual exercise.

Retract your false claims, liar.

 

[jj]

It is posted on this thread for all to see....but hey go ahead, keep it up, ridiculing minorities for daring to point out to you how your posts might come across to a minority, is a great way to prove you aren't a racist...just ask MM and JJ...

Retract your false claim that I am a racist now.

As to a minority, are you claiming to be one?

You presume that I know who you are? All I know is that you're a liar who hides behind the nom-de-keyboard of "crimresearch", no more and no less, and that an attempted spinmeiser named Rob Lister has tried to spin your accusations into something else than the purely malicious accusations they are.

Retract your accusations now.

 

[jj]

Crimresearch

Now this is a prime example of why it is virtually impossible to conduct an ongoing debate with you

these are your words...

"So can we include JJ with The Fool on the list of those who heartily approve of racist organizations as long as they are the 'right kind' of racists?"

you try to suggest that you are only posing a question here???... I don't want to lecture you on the use of the english language but you have made a statement here, that I am on a list of people that heartily approve of racist organisations, you "asked" if you can include JJ on it.... Don't be a coward crimresearch. stand up for what you type, running away doesn't help.....

so please point out where I have expressed approval for racist organisations or withdraw this statement.

More to the point, he states that you are a racist in his failed question asking me if I am one.

The question is unethical and dishonest, and can not be answered without stipulating that you are a racist.

The man is unethical and dishonest, and nothing more, at least as far as we can tell here, and Mr. Lister supports his failed, malicious questions.

 

[Rob Lister]

Retract your assertions. All of them.

Likewise, Mr. Lister, retract.

nope.

I made a ruling. It is final. You are hearby held in contempt. The fine is one cyberdollar.

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Sticky:?“Civility in this section” - Please Read

Oh, yea. sorry.

Love,

Rob Lister

 

[jj]

nope.

I made a ruling. It is final. You are hearby held in contempt. The fine is one cyberdollar.

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Oh, yea. sorry.

Love,

Rob Lister

You stood up for a failed question. Your discourse shows that you clearly undestand rhetoric, therefor I must assume that you stood up for a failed question deliberately.

Retract. Now.

Your incivil behavior and crying "wolf" isn't going to fool anyone.

See my reply to you in the thread examining your pathetically unethical tactics.