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Bush and NAACP

Patrick

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I saw on ABC that Lurch said that Bush's refusal to speak at the annual NAACP convention "spoke for itself". Actually, the slurs of the NAACP leadership speak for themselves. Quoted in NR:

- In 2000, the NAACP ran ads equating Bush's opposition to "hate crime" laws with the lynching of James Byrd.

- Julian Bond, NAACP chairman, called conservative republicans "neofascists" and "the Taliban wing of american politics".

What Bush doesn't understand is that WMs are the last group that it's PC to spew vile slurs at.
 
Patrick said:
I saw on ABC that Lurch said that Bush's refusal to speak at the annual NAACP convention "spoke for itself". Actually, the slurs of the NAACP leadership speak for themselves. Quoted in NR:

- In 2000, the NAACP ran ads equating Bush's opposition to "hate crime" laws with the lynching of James Byrd.

- Julian Bond, NAACP chairman, called conservative republicans "neofascists" and "the Taliban wing of american politics".

What Bush doesn't understand is that WMs are the last group that it's PC to spew vile slurs at.

Right.

Absolutely.

This is why, recently, a group of Iraqis (On a tour sponsored by the State Department) were denied access to city hall in Memphis, Tn. I don't hear any outrage over it.

Bush's father claimed that atheists shouldn't be considered Americans.

While I think the NAACP might want to tone down the rhetoric a bit when it comes to Bush, I think your last comment speaks volumes of your ignorance of reality.

You are now going on ignore.
 
Patrick said:
I saw on ABC that Lurch said that Bush's refusal to speak at the annual NAACP convention "spoke for itself". Actually, the slurs of the NAACP leadership speak for themselves. Quoted in NR:

- In 2000, the NAACP ran ads equating Bush's opposition to "hate crime" laws with the lynching of James Byrd.

- Julian Bond, NAACP chairman, called conservative republicans "neofascists" and "the Taliban wing of american politics".

What Bush doesn't understand is that WMs are the last group that it's PC to spew vile slurs at.

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"This is why, recently, a group of Iraqis (On a tour sponsored by the State Department) were denied access to city hall in Memphis, Tn."

By whom?


"I don't hear any outrage over it."

From whom?
 
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Some Friggin Guy said:

This is why, recently, a group of Iraqis (On a tour sponsored by the State Department) were denied access to city hall in Memphis, Tn. I don't hear any outrage over it.


That might have something to do with the fact that the mayor of Memphis is a black guy. Racism isn't something to get mad about unless you can pin it on the white devil.

Bush's father claimed that atheists shouldn't be considered Americans.

I'd say that people who think like that shouldn't be considered Americans.
 
crimresearch said:
"This is why, recently, a group of Iraqis (On a tour sponsored by the State Department) were denied access to city hall in Memphis, Tn."

By whom?


"I don't hear any outrage over it."

From whom?

From CNN

Elisabeth Silverman, the group's host and head of the Memphis Council for International Visitors, said Brown told her he would "evacuate the building and bring in the bomb squads" if the group entered.
 
Actually, the CNN story manages to completely dance around the irony of both African-American mayors and the African-American chair of city council treating minority visitors in such a shabby manner.


And there has been a loud howl of outrage, causing at least one of the guilty parties to blame it on a miscommunication with the 'US Embassy'...
 
Re: Re: Bush and NAACP

Some Friggin Guy said:
While I think the NAACP might want to tone down the rhetoric a bit when it comes to Bush, I think your last comment speaks volumes of your ignorance of reality.
Hi Guy,

Interesting, you suggest that something as outrageous as the above mentioned quotes are reason for the NAACP to tone down their rhetoric but the last sentence in Patrick's post "speaks volumes" about his "ignorance"?

I think the statements and the lack of outrage toward them speak volumes and they alone would seem to support Patrick's claim.

Why do you think the sentence is substantively wrong? There are many such examples that are simply ignored by most and no action is required on the parts of those who make such statements.

Sen. Byrd's outburst during a March 4, 2001 "Fox News Sunday" interview, where the one-time Ku Klux Klan member referred twice to "white ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊,"

Al Gore's campaign manager, Donna Brazil, referred to the Republican Party as the party of the white boys.
Imagine with me for a moment someone from the Bush campaign referring to the Democrat party as the party of the "black boys".

It doesn't take much imagination. Trent Lott praised Strom Thurmond and all hell broke loose.

New York City Councilman Charles Barron...Using the Black humor hyperbole style, he talked about ...wanting to slap a white person to improve his mental health.
No politician can say "I want to slap a black person" regardless of reason without committing political suicide.

I'm sorry Guy but I think there is little question that there is a double standard. Perhaps the standard is justified from the years of oppression caused by whites and endured by minorities. I think one can make that argument. I don't think one can argue that PC is a club that is wielded in any equitable fashion.
 
"I'm sorry Guy but I think there is little question that there is a double standard. Perhaps the standard is justified from the years of oppression caused by whites and endured by minorities. I think one can make that argument. I don't think one can argue that PC is a club that is wielded in any equitable fashion..."

And as the incident in Memphis illustrates, it is no longer a matter of those with dark skins making up for treatment received at the hands of those with light skins...

The same Memphis mayor sent an aide to the Chinese New Years celebration I was attending...I nearly fell out of my chair when I heard her read Hizzoner's proclamation that it was 'well known by all that the Chinese are an industrious and happy people'.

The NAACP in particular, is incorporated as a for-profit business, and merged with the BET network...the same network whose shows are a cavalcade of lisping Asian, lazy Hispanic, stupid Puerto Rican, and other offensive racist stereotypes....

So should candidates court the NAACP's approval as a sign that they too are in favor of racism, as long as it is practised by the right people?
 
I apologize to all.

First, I was not clear in my meaning, for which, I really have no excuse.

My issue is not that such a statement as Patrick made is ignorant in terms of there not being a double standard. In fact, ignorant was an ill-chosen word, though I'm not sure what would have worked better.

My issue with his statement is that, as I see it, he is suggesting that slanders against whites are the only slanders we should be upset about. If I am wrong in this interpretation, again, I must humbly apologize.

I fear I take some things very much for granted considering the attitudes of where I currently live. I have heard people say things like (and these, while slightly paraphrased, are very close to the actual comments, I assure you):

"Why do these terrorists want to hurt us? We've never done anything to them. We should just kick every arab sand-n*gg*r out of here!"

and

"Snoop-dogg is making fun of whites again. Where does that n*gg*r get off?"

Frankly, it stuns me every time I hear it, yet I hear it so much, that I wind up ascribing the attitudes to those who don't necessarily have them.

An error in critical thinking on my part.

So, Patrick, I apologize for the ignorant comment.
 
(Below details of well-known incidents from various web sites)

Cubs manager Dusty Baker "We were brought over here for the heat. Isn't that history? Your skin color is more conducive to heat than it is to the lighter-skinned people. I don't see brothers running around burnt."
PC penalty: nothing

Rush Limbaugh: On Philadelphia Eagles' Donovan McNabb: "I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there's a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he really didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."
PC penalty: forced to resign by ESPN

Jesse Jackson: In 1984 comment to a black reporter called Jews "Hymies" and New York "Hymietown."
PC penalty: nothing

Jimmy "the Greek" Snyder: In 1988 after he said that a black athlete was better than a white athlete because "he's been bred to be that way because of his thigh size and big size."
PC Penalty: fired by CBS

The Reverend Al Sharpton:

- According to the Associated Press, the lawyers of Al Sharpton and Tawana Brawley (a young black girl) asserted "on 33 separate occasions" that a local white prosecutor named Steven Pagones "had kidnapped, raped, and smeared with feces" Brawley. There was no evidence, and Pagones was soon cleared, and won a defamation lawsuit against Sharpton for $65,000. According to NR, Sharpton has never paid up, claiming poverty.
PC penalty: nothing

- 1991: A Hasidic Jewish driver in Brooklyn's Crown Heights section accidentally kills Gavin Cato, a 7-year-old black child, and antisemitic riots erupt. Sharpton races to pour gasoline on the fire. At Gavin's funeral he rails against the "diamond merchants" -- code for Jews -- with "the blood of innocent babies" on their hands. He mobilizes hundreds of demonstrators to march through the Jewish neighborhood, chanting, "No justice, no peace." A rabbinical student, Yankel Rosenbaum, is surrounded by a mob shouting "Kill the Jews!" and stabbed to death.
PC penalty: nothing

- 1995: When the United House of Prayer, a large black landlord in Harlem, raises the rent on Freddy's Fashion Mart, Freddy's white Jewish owner is forced to raise the rent on his subtenant, a black-owned music store. A landlord-tenant dispute ensues; Sharpton uses it to incite racial hatred. "We will not stand by," he warns malignantly, "and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business." Sharpton's National Action Network sets up picket lines; customers going into Freddy's are spat on and cursed as "traitors" and "Uncle Toms." Some protesters shout, "Burn down the Jew store!" and simulate striking a match. "We're going to see that this cracker suffers," says Sharpton's colleague Morris Powell. On Dec. 8, one of the protesters bursts into Freddy's, shoots four employees point-blank, then sets the store on fire. Seven employees die in the inferno.
PC penalty: nothing

This is the person the dems trot out on the convention podium and schmooze with.

There's a double standard, no ifs, ands, buts, perhapses, or maybes.
 
I weep for the white race, how do they survive under such sustained oppression? I think its diabolical how they are so over represented in the prison populations, welfare queues and slum populations. Something has to be done.
 
The Fool said:
I weep for the white race, how do they survive under such sustained oppression? I think its diabolical how they are so over represented in the prison populations, welfare queues and slum populations. Something has to be done.

I wonder what Patrick thinks about Brooke Sheilds.
 
The Fool said:
I weep for the white race, how do they survive under such sustained oppression? I think its diabolical how they are so over represented in the prison populations, welfare queues and slum populations. Something has to be done.
"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
--Martin Luther King

Nice sentiment but it turns out that it only applies to minorities. Thanks for the clarification Fool.
 
It doesn't take much imagination. Trent Lott praised Strom Thurmond and all hell broke loose.

That is not a fair representation of what Lott said. He said that if Thurmond had won the presidency way back when, the country might be better off today.

Unfortunately, Strom Thurmond ran on a segregationist ticket. That was his main platform. So for Lott to actually pine for Strom to have won looks pretty bad.

Sure, Lott may not have known the details but he knew that Strom ran for president - perhaps he knew WHY he was running?

Lurker
 
Lurker said:
That is not a fair representation of what Lott said. He said that if Thurmond had won the presidency way back when, the country might be better off today.

Unfortunately, Strom Thurmond ran on a segregationist ticket. That was his main platform. So for Lott to actually pine for Strom to have won looks pretty bad.

Sure, Lott may not have known the details but he knew that Strom ran for president - perhaps he knew WHY he was running?
Hi Lurker,

It is possible that it was innocent. I personally doubt that Lott was really intending to say that had Thurmond won segregation would have survived and we would be better because of segregation. I don't think Lott was thinking that deep or that it even occurred to him at the moment that Thurmond was a segregationist. He says that it hadn't.

I agree that it looks bad. But then all of the quotes mentioned in this thread look bad.
 
What are you all talking about?? Bush didnt appear because of "scheduling conflicts." HAHAHAHAH more Whitehouse lies and BS!!!.

As if Bush is going to face any of his detracters. He doesnt even face the US public. Instead he sends out his henchmen to do the talking for him.
 
Tmy said:
What are you all talking about?? Bush didnt appear because of "scheduling conflicts." HAHAHAHAH more Whitehouse lies and BS!!!.

As if Bush is going to face any of his detracters. He doesnt even face the US public. Instead he sends out his henchmen to do the talking for him.
Yeah, they are going to come out and say that the refuse to go to the NAACP. This was a lose-lose situation. In politics there is a time and place for lies and BS and this IS one of those times. I think Clinton lying to the public about Monica was one of those times. He should not have lied in court though.
 
What are you all talking about?? Bush didnt appear because of "scheduling conflicts." HAHAHAHAH more Whitehouse lies and BS!!!.

That was a polite lie to avoid saying the truth, viz., that Bush had no intention, and should have no intention of going before a group whose leaders had defamed him and the republican party. If he wanted to say more truth, it would be that whatever he said would be attacked and used for campaign material for Lurch. Even more would be to say that the organization had long outlived its purpose, that it existed today chiefly to serve as a political arm of the democrat party and to provide a big salary and forum for its aging leaders, themselves anachronistic remnants of the 1960s.
 

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