Burning Painted Steel Beams, Making Iron-Rich Microspheres!

[Redwood]

Not true:
http://www.tainstruments.co.jp/application/pdf/Thermal_Library/Applications_Notes/TN044.PDF

" As argon is more dense than air, the flow of the argon through the cell is diminished. The purge rate which is indicated on the flowmeter is not necessarily the rate through the purge gas opening in the DSC cell. For these reasons, the use of argon as a purge gas should be carefully considered."
"Nitrogen is the preferred purge gas"

The alternative to NO₂-contaminated N₂ is not Ar but NO₂-free, "ultra-pure" N₂. Coincidentally, that is exactly what Tillotson used.

Ya learn something new every day, even at my age!

 

[ozeco41]

Ya learn something new every day, even at my age!

At my age the problem is not learning something new....


...it is remembering it after you have learnt it.

 

[ThatOneGuy]

To the original poster, awesome work! I've actually linked it to a truther I'm arguing with, and he's been quiet so far. I'm sure he'll either bring up another 'theory' or say you're somehow manipulating the results, or are 'in on it.'

 

[Lusikka]

Basile burned plastic, and the heat of that burning, plus, I assume, the heat of his heating strip, affected the gray layer. (No, it didn't melt)

Did you look carefully how the chip was "burning"? Have you ever burnt plastic? Hydrocarbons require outward oxygen for burning but the chip was "burning" inwardly – no oxygen was needed. I have burnt both gunpowder and plastic and have seen the difference.

Yes, I looked carefully.
The red layer was clearly exposed to oxygen, clearly showed signs of decomposition and gassing out, and clearly reacted with a flame outside of the chip - in other words, a reaction with ambient oxygen is a total certainty. If it had burnde "inwardly", you would not have had a chance to observe anything.

I am afraid you did not look carefully and that you have not experimented by burning plastic. I experimented by burning small pieces of two kinds of plastic and cardboard. They were on a metal strip and I heated them with a candle flame. The burning process did not resemble the burning of the red/grey chips at all. There were flames around the pieces, the burning was slow and the burning temperature was not so high that it could have given white color.

If you look how the chip #13 reacted so the reaction happened inside the chip, it was white hot, and it was very rapid without any flames outward. No outside oxygen could have produced so rapid reaction. The whitish glow was visible through the surface layers. In the beginning there really was gassing out.

What do you think the red/grey chips were? How they were created? If you think they were paint so you can see here how paint chips reacted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CwUJBT0Dkc

 

[beachnut]

You have ridiculed Niels Harrit on this forum:
...

Harrit lies about 911 mocking the murder of thousands by 19 terrorists. Ridicule?

The fact is no steel was damaged on 911 by thermite; thus discussing what is in chips of dust with no proof they were from the WTC disaster is BS. In addition studies done after 911 on the dust found not thermite.

The iron spheres form in fires, no thermite needed.
The dust Harrit and Jones had shows evidence of kaolin, you can see it in the paper.
Failure to see Jones and Harrit made up the conclusion with no more than waving hands and cherry-picking what they presented; is proof of shallow reading comprehension skills.

Show some evidence steel was damaged by thermite. Ask the best questions; why do dust sample have less energy than thermite?


Burning inward? This is proof of what?

Iron sphere form in fires from iron bearing substances; makes Jones and Harrit liars, or delusional nuts unknowingly spreading lies.

The burning chip you posted looks like sugar, sugar rocket fuel. Or vermiculite. Best question, why is no steel from 911 at the WTC damaged by thermite? If you can't produce evidence of thermite damage, discussing what two failed old men like me made up, is super-nano-nonsense.

Why does thermite expand like is vermiculite?
Why would anyone use thermite and two aircraft?
How idiotic the plot must be in Jones and Harrit's failed minds to use thermite, and four planes, and 19 terrorists.

Is the complete plot explained; why use four planes when you have super-nano-thermite? Explain how Harrit and Jones avoid LEO after waving their hands so hard to ignore the 19 terrorists in four 767/757 airframes, and come up with thermite.

Why would anyone ridiculed Niels Harrit for spreading lies of thermite, when 19 terrorists did 911? Who did Harrit's fantasy version of 911; paranoia steps in; "they" did it. Who did it? Oh darn, it is a lie, a fantasy, no one did Harrit's plot he never can explain. How does Harrit ignore no steel was damaged by thermite on 911?

 

[Oystein]

I experimented by burning small pieces of two kinds of plastic and cardboard.

What plastic? Common name, please!
Are you aware that there are a great many different kinds of plastics that have different burn behaviours?
What temperature did your strip reach? What was the heating rate?
Hoh big was your specimen - width, length, depth?
Was it attached on one side to a layer of iron oxide?

Why do you think your experiment has any bearing on what Basile did?

If you think they were paint so you can see here how paint chips reacted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CwUJBT0Dkc

What binder did that chip (after 1:00 min) have?
What dimensions did it have?
Was it attached on one side to a layer of iron oxide?



Do you acknowledge that Basile's chip had only 1.3-1.7% Aluminium, only up to 2.6% Iron, but >70% Carbon?

Given these elemental proportions, which reaction or reactions do you propose to have taken place in Basile's WTC dust chip #13?

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

What plastic? Common name, please!
Are you aware that there are a great many different kinds of plastics that have different burn behaviours?
What temperature did your strip reach? What was the heating rate?
Hoh big was your specimen - width, length, depth?
Was it attached on one side to a layer of iron oxide?

Why do you think your experiment has any bearing on what Basile did?


What binder did that chip (after 1:00 min) have?
What dimensions did it have?
Was it attached on one side to a layer of iron oxide?



Do you acknowledge that Basile's chip had only 1.3-1.7% Aluminium, only up to 2.6% Iron, but >70% Carbon?

Given these elemental proportions, which reaction or reactions do you propose to have taken place in Basile's WTC dust chip #13?

Wonder if he is aware, that plastics can include fire retardants?