Burn a Quran day

Sherman Bay said:
Here's Bob Park's take on the situation:I think that speaks volumes.
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If it is the same image I saw, it tells a lot that the camera was LOW key, and made it impossible to estimate the number of people pushing the signs. So unless they show a plan from a bit above to REALLY show that the street are litteraly *FULL* of people asking from Christian blood, I will state that this is only a few idiot which they filmed and do not represent the muslim world.

Just like the few christian idiot which burned down a cinema in fFrance for showing the last temptation of Christ (13 wounded, back in 1987).
 
When I first saw this topic, I accidentally read the title as "Burn a Quran a day".
 
Monkey Ghost said:
Still waiting for someone to tell me why it would have been a good idea.

Burning books they haven't read...

Intentionally insulting people who have done them no harm...

This whole "9/11 happened, we are wounded forever ,don't tread on me" garbage is just showing the world what a bunch of pussies we are.
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Dear users,

I know few of you will call me a conspiracy fringe, but I cannot erase the words psychological operation from my thoughts after follow this stunt from the begin.

As many of you already cited, the media coverage was very exaggerated, putting a Pastor of 50 followers in the international spotlight.

Psychological Operations: Planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences to influence their emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations, groups, and individuals. The purpose of psychological operations is to induce or reinforce foreign attitudes and behavior favorable to the originator's objectives. Also called PSYOP. See also consolidation psychological operations; overt peacetime psychological operations programs; perception management. ' US Department of Defense

http://www.iwar.org.uk/psyops/

Well, if something we know for sure, is how the whole international community reacts in face of a symbolic religious event covered by the media.
 
godofpie said:
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local...rn_a_koran_still_hopes_to_meet_with_grou.html
There is a poll embedded in this article. 47% believe the koran should have been torched. I don't know the NY Daily News demographics but that is really sad. One of the most ethnically diverse cities on the planet and almost half of the poll respondents wanted to see it torched.
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I do not trust a poll if I cannot verify the evidence or criteria of how the data is mined.

Polls also serve as solo purpose to influence and trick the mind into define ideas over a "black and white" moral background.
 
I'm for virtual burning of the Koran. I'll order the Koran on Kindle and then ceremoniously delete it. In retaliation, Muslim extremists declare they'll delete the bible from their Kindle, so there.
 
I will state that this is only a few idiot which they filmed and do not represent the muslim world.
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Do not represent the Muslim world, true; a few idiots, no. You can state that, if it makes you feel better. But reality need not agree with your statements.

Just like the few christian idiot which burned down a cinema in fFrance for showing the last temptation of Christ (13 wounded, back in 1987).
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Somehow, one always has to go back years or decades to find some Jewish or Christian fanatics who did something vaguely similar to what Muslim fanatics do every week. Doesn't seem to show the "all religions are equally violent" idea you wish to show.
 
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bokonon said:
It loses something when you have to explain it, but...

Where? In the part he quoted.

Where you called "few", "many" was chosen.
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:lolsign:

Ok, many of you will not even think about it.

I will try to gather few information to support my fringe idea.
 
This stunt had a really deep impact in the international community.

Conspiracy or not, I think you will agree with me that this event will be focus of debate for a long time.

Sounds fringe, I know, I know... But look that! Now is even a space in the Wikipedia for the event "2010 Qur'an-burning controversy"! (WTF? :boggled:)

The 2010 United States Qur'an-burning controversy arose when pastor Terry Jones of the non-denominational Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida, United States, planned burning copies of the Qur'an on the anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks, which he called "International Burn a Koran Day". The planned event was widely condemned by politicians and religious groups, though Jones later canceled the book burning and announced his intention to fly to New York to meet with the imam of Park51, Feisal Abdul Rauf.[1] He later stated that it was suspended, not canceled.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Qur'an-burning_controversy
 
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I was reading again the posts of this thread:

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34 days of "silence" in this thread, and if the news agency had left out any focus on the Pastor Jones, this was to be a dead thread.

But I know everyone here like to read the headlines, right?

By 8th September the sparks hits the woods and the fire burn, again.

In my hypothesis, this back to debate just here represent a focus over a subject which was planed to be a new meme: "Burn the Q'uoran a day".

I am sure the USA have many institutions with huge potential and crew to shape the public opinion, just by selecting which headlines will be available in the international news agency.

Critical questions welcome.
 
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Checkmite said:
But he would still go to jail for it. Because the only one responsible for his actions is him.
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But if you decide to provoke some big biker, knowing that he's a psychopath, knowing that he is going to go off and kill some random person - and if you have no more good reason to provoke him than just for the hell of it - what does that make you?
 
jayh said:
Functionally this is NO DIFFERENT from the re-running of the Mo cartoons (after we already 'knew' it could cause trouble). It did not inform anything, it was an affront to religious sensibilities and hence a direct challenge, it only served to excite violent crackpots. Yet it was widely, and correctly in my opinion, defended as free speech. Now, perhaps because we don't like the guy doing it, most people here seem to have suddenly become so accommodationist. Yes it's insulting. Free speech often is.

Frankly I am disappointed he backed down. This will make it more difficult for others who wish to speak out.
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Of course it's free speech. That doesn't mean that it's not disgusting, and that he should not be condemned. Defending the principle of free speech does not mean that every fool who says something offensive should be treated as a sacred martyr.

The principle of free speech means that we allow people to say offensive things. That doesn't make them not offensive. It's just that the right to say things that aren't offensive is no right at all.
 
westprog said:
Of course it's free speech. That doesn't mean that it's not disgusting, and that he should not be condemned. Defending the principle of free speech does not mean that every fool who says something offensive should be treated as a sacred martyr.
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Do you equally condemn the Mo-toons? Satanic Verses?

Do you condemn CFI as ignorant jerks for reprinting the toons?
 
"The pastor who threatened to burn a Muslim book at his church Saturday now says his church will never burn a Koran."

A man, a plan, a Quran -- Duran Duran.
 
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