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Bumper sticker. . .(shudder)

Yeah he was dong the landscaping here last week.
Well aren't you lucky! I wish Jesus would come help me with some of my landscaping needs. I guess these are some of the things I can look forward to in heaven, I'm not much of a gardener.
 
kurious_kathy, in the gospels we don't see Jesus preaching at people, hammering them over the head. Instead he spent time with people, hung out with them, shared a joke, had a beer (well, wine), got to know them. He valued people for who they are, not as potential converts; he loved them for who they are. May we be like that.
 
kurious_kathy, in the gospels we don't see Jesus preaching at people, hammering them over the head. Instead he spent time with people, hung out with them, shared a joke, had a beer (well, wine), got to know them. He valued people for who they are, not as potential converts; he loved them for who they are. May we be like that.
Well at times we do see Jesus got in peoples faces and told them truth, straight forward is how I think of it. But you are right doing all things in a loving manner is important. Sometimes I still am ruff around the edges, forgive me.
 
Well aren't you lucky! I wish Jesus would come help me with some of my landscaping needs. I guess these are some of the things I can look forward to in heaven, I'm not much of a gardener.

You're not going to heaven, because you don't accept the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Why do you hate the FSM? Why do you find the FSM writings so offensive? Why do you doom yourself to eternal hell? I'll pray to the FSM for you to recieve the gift of his noodly appendage! Without it you won't see heaven!
 
Well at times we do see Jesus got in peoples faces and told them truth, straight forward is how I think of it. But you are right doing all things in a loving manner is important. Sometimes I still am ruff around the edges, forgive me.
You have not wronged me so no worries. When Jesus was in people's faces they were generally hypocrits, especially religious ones. For me, the idea of being alongside others, talking in ways that are understood, is more Jesus's way. Many here have been hurt by religion and the hypocrisy of some, so Bible verses and platitudes don't go along way (also many have good rational reasons to not believe either!); I don't have many answers, though.
 
Who's to say what God can do to reach anyone? I have certainly felt a seperation from some of my family because of Christ, but it hasn't cost me totally walking away from them either. It's just really hard now cause they see a new me but they aren't sure how to deal with my new found faith in Christ.
If I may be so bold, I suspect it isn't your new-found Christianity that is keeping them separated from you, but the desire not to be preached at by a sanctimonious person who is certain of her correctness.

Why is it so hard for people to accept Christ?
Haven't you been listening? Dozens of people here have explained that to you. That could be another reason why your family keeps you at arms length: You only want to talk. You show no interest in listening.

No one not even my family can make me shut up so quit asking. I'm on fire for the Lord and very excited about what he's done and what he's gona do next. Whether you guys want to admit it or not, Jesus changes things.
And you are proud of being a loud, self-important know-it-all who has alienated her family? Yep, Jesus sure does change things. I'm betting that you were much more likable before the "change". Don't be surprised if you stop being invited to family gatherings.

Last Sunday eve I told my hubby I was gona enjoy watching the NRB station which has some of the best teachers on all in a row and he cracked up and called me a Jesus freak. Guess he's right, I am.
Are you sure he was trying to be funny?:( Be careful before you alienate him as well.
 
When Jesus was in people's faces they were generally hypocrits
The bad thing about hypocrites is not that they are wrong, but that they won't entertain the possibility that they are wrong.

Mr Clingford said:
especially religious ones.
They come in many stripes. Those in authority are the most dangerous. Those of a religious bent the most insidious.

Mr Clingford said:
(also many have good rational reasons to not believe either!);
Thanks for acknowledging that.
 
I've read it, thanks. Been born again, too, though most of my reading happened after that. The born again part felt great in a now-I'm-part-of-something-that-makes-me-feel-special kind of way but did nothing for actually answering any questions.

Ah. So it's not a perfect message. Funny how a perfect god would write an imperfect manual. So imperfect, in fact, that it gives birth to people like Koresh and Smith.

Yet all it would take to grant you perfect understanding is the willingness of your god to do it.

Quite well.

wat im doing is saying what Scripture means to me; and pointing out that one should read and understand for oneself because my words are hearsay to you.

You still have trouble grasping this? or Are you being tedious?

YF
CM
 
You're not going to heaven, because you don't accept the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Why do you hate the FSM? Why do you find the FSM writings so offensive? Why do you doom yourself to eternal hell? I'll pray to the FSM for you to recieve the gift of his noodly appendage! Without it you won't see heaven!
Oh are you God now who can make that claim? I don't think so. But I did get a laugh out of your script writing, did anyone help you with it? Hey maybe you should make it a cartoon, I'm sure the kids would get a kick out of it.
 
Oh are you God now who can make that claim? I don't think so. But I did get a laugh out of your script writing, did anyone help you with it? Hey maybe you should make it a cartoon, I'm sure the kids would get a kick out of it.

I took it directly from your writings. I just changed "God" for "Flying Spaghetti Monster." Perhaps now you see how ridiculous you sound.
 
Now how in the heck would I know the answer to that question?
I have no idea but I think it is rather presumptuous and arrogant to assume god kills children to show people something, don't you?

Seems pretty obvious to me we can't have life without death and we do know why everyone dies in this life.
Oh, that's all. I'll see if I can't forward your sentiment to the mother. How nice.

I'm editing this response to add a link for you RF that I think may offer you some useful info on How God Uses Suffering...
"Uses suffering"? What use is it to those he kills?

The guy has one strange method. I wouldn't call it mysterious I would call it arbitrary and capricious.
 
wat im doing is saying what Scripture means to me; and pointing out that one should read and understand for oneself because my words are hearsay to you.

You still have trouble grasping this? or Are you being tedious?
I grasp it quite well, and I am not being tedious.

My point is that if the meaning of scripture is a matter of personal choice, which is what you are saying, then there is no meaning to scripture at all, and no basis on which to claim divine provenance.
 
Canadian Malcontent
Actually the most devout Mennonites( Quakers) and Orthodox Jews and maybe sects of Islam are the most adherent to the Law.
Sorry, but they cherry pick as well. They’re just more adapt at it.

Ossai I declared that God exists within you,
Yep, you declared me god. I accept donations, make checks payable to C.A.S.H.

maybe you need remedial English classes. How old are you?
My English is fine, although my spelling needs work. And age has what to do with it?

Kurious kathy and I can read the Bible and be nurtured and instructed by the Living Word of God as can you Garrette.
If it’s the living word of god why doesn’t it get officially edited every couple of years? I’m not talking about the human edits that have and are taking place.

wat im doing is saying what Scripture means to me; and pointing out that one should read and understand for oneself because my words are hearsay to you.

You still have trouble grasping this? or Are you being tedious?
You do realize that you’ve just declared you believe faith meaningless. Faith doesn’t show truth and is entirely subjective.

kurious_kathy
Ignorance is not bliss Garrette. My dad for some reason has just chosen to never read the Bible and it's definitely cost him.
Confirmation that you believe you dad is going to hell.

Well I still say God uses people. He puts people in everyone life to reflect his love.
Apparently the incest wasn’t enough. It must be why he created all those rapists and murders.

I can say those guys must not be of God if they are teaching bad stuff.
You have repeatedly attempted to teach bad stuff; therefore you must not be of god.

Originally Posted by fowlsound
You're not going to heaven, because you don't accept the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Why do you hate the FSM? Why do you find the FSM writings so offensive? Why do you doom yourself to eternal hell? I'll pray to the FSM for you to recieve the gift of his noodly appendage! Without it you won't see heaven!
Oh are you God now who can make that claim? I don't think so. But I did get a laugh out of your script writing, did anyone help you with it? Hey maybe you should make it a cartoon, I'm sure the kids would get a kick out of it.
He’s not but I am, declared so by Canadian Malcontent. And fowlsound can make that claim if he wants.

Ossai
 
Canadian Malcontent said:
Ossai I declared that God exists within you,
Yep, you declared me god. I accept donations, make checks payable to C.A.S.H.
No, no, Ossai. CM is saying that God exists within you. . . that is, God has taken up residence in one of your internal organs. If you act quickly, you can have a surgeon locate the Divinely infected organ and remove it. Once you have said organ in your possession, God is at your mercy and can be blackmailed for whatever you want.

You lucky <rule 8>!

:D
 
Where was this so-called god for 13.7 billions years before a lot of dumb humans came along, I guess screwing up other beings lives on other planets that where dumb enough to listen to it.

Paul

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