Bumper sticker. . .(shudder)

[Canadian Malcontent]

"Interpretation of Scripture comes only from within, by the Holy Spirit"

" All the wisdom of man is as foolishness before the Lord and all the righteousness of man is as filthy rags before the Lord"

When one reads a book, any book, one tends to read it through. Reflecting all the while and thereafter and so doing appreciate the content as well as what the writing is getting across.
Were one to read the entire Chapters given in Mr. Paulhoff's Ch.:Vrs. references would one get the same impression that Mr. Paulhoff represented in post 1477?
Perhaps Mr Paulhoff would like to post the entire Chapters and account for his reasoning with respect to the specific Verses quoted in his post above.
That being post 1477 , 3 posts prior to this one.

Your friend,
Canadian Malcontent

 

[Paulhoff]

"Interpretation of Scripture comes only from within, by the Holy Spirit"

" All the wisdom of man is as foolishness before the Lord and all the righteousness of man is as filthy rags before the Lord"

1. Then why print the bible and or read it, there is no need, since, according to you, we can not interpret what is to be interpreted.

2. If you would look, the things I posted where in quotes, they were not my writing, but they still show that the bible contradicts itself, but of course there should be no bible because we are not smart enough to understand such deep deep thoughts.

Paul

 

[Ossai]

Huntster

I could offer several answers to those questions which lack question marks, but I'll refrain. It would be useless. You aren't interested in constructive debate or understanding.

They weren't questions. They are called statements. I was merely parroting back what you had stated without all the doublespeak.

That is a claim. I could ask you for your so beloved evidence, but that, too, would be a useless endeavor.

As I've already stated, I'm parroting back what you yourself have stated.

By doing any or all of the above, God would then have violated the principle of free will, thereby also influencing love along with evil. Love, like evil, requires free will.

Apparently you can't see the bullsh*p, you're buried so deeply in it. It's already been pointed out that if god is omnipotent then god controlls all of that and it is exactly how god wants it, suffering, death, disease, child rapes, AIDS, grouchy old men and all.

Ossai

 

[The Atheist]

"Interpretation of Scripture comes only from within, by the Holy Spirit"

" All the wisdom of man is as foolishness before the Lord and all the righteousness of man is as filthy rags before the Lord"

Well, you must find yourself a bit of a paradox, trying to explain the inexplicable. Given your statement, it's impossible for atheists to understand, so how are you going to manage it? Unless you're related to god/s, of course.

I can understand Huntster's position, but I'm not sure why you're here. Are you putting us right as to what the other side thinks? Or, are you engaged in a futile attempt to sway one or more of us from the path of wrongteousness?

 

[kurious_kathy]

Jesus is Santa Claus for Adults.

Paul

No he's not Santa. Jesus is the friend that will never leave or forsake us.
A life without knowing Jesus is not fulfilling at all. And I do speak from my own experience.

 

[zizzybaluba]

No he's not Santa. Jesus is the friend that will never leave or forsake us.
A life without knowing Jesus is not fulfilling at all. And I do speak from my own experience.

Sure sounds like Santa to me.

 

[Anacoluthon64]

More bumper sticker suggestions:

"Intelligent Design - avoiding reality since 4,004 B.C."
"Intelligent Design, but the factory sucks."
"If god's so gifted, how come he doesn't sign his works properly?"​

'Luthon64

 

[Paulhoff]

No he's not Santa. Jesus is the friend that will never leave or forsake us.
A life without knowing Jesus is not fulfilling at all. And I do speak from my own experience.

Many people suffered and die a death much worse then Jesus to save others, so what, (besides your delusions about Jesus) makes him so special, the word is NOTHING.

Paul

 

[Canadian Malcontent]

Atheist
I made the staement "Its impossible for atheists to understand."
Show me?
Okay you inferred it.
Show your reasoning for the inference?
Dont have any?
Okay, you are shown.

Paulhoff
The words in your post are not found in the Bible.
Your examination of Scripture is worse than my science.

Both of you seek to bait.
Why?

 

[Canadian Malcontent]

Bumper sticker idea

The Reaper ( graphically)
"I am Jesus Christ" (in text)

 

[Paulhoff]

Paulhoff
The words in your post are not found in the Bible.
Your examination of Scripture is worse than my science.

Oh really, and which version of the bible are you talking about, and since all bibles are interpreted and written by men, (no women, go figure) to your idea posted earlier they all are invalid anyway.

Paul

 

[Canadian Malcontent]

Oh really, and which version of the bible are you talking about, and since all bibles are interpreted and written by men, (no women, go figure) to your idea posted earlier they all are invalid anyway.

Paul

Paulhoff , I checked 1st Timothy 6:16, you did not repeat it.

 

[Paulhoff]

The bible was not written and or inspired by any god in the first place, so if you what to defend a fictional book that is you business, also if you have a problem with the quotes, take it up with http://www.evilbible.com/ They have a forum there, have fun.

Paul

 

[Huntster]

Paulhoff , I checked 1st Timothy 6:16, you did not repeat it.

Some context:

1 Timothy 6:12-21:

Compete well for the faith. Lay hold of eternal life, to which you were called when you made the noble confession in the presence of many witnesses. I charge (you) before God, who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus, who gave testimony under Pontius Pilate for the noble confession, to keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the appearance of our Lord Jesus Christ that the blessed and only ruler will make manifest at the proper time, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, and whom no human being has seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal power. Amen.

Tell the rich in the present age not to be proud and not to rely on so uncertain a thing as wealth but rather on God, who richly provides us with all things for our enjoyment. Tell them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous, ready to share, thus accumulating as treasure a good foundation for the future, so as to win the life that is true life. O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you. Avoid profane babbling and the absurdities of so-called knowledge. By professing it, some people have deviated from the faith. Grace be with all of you.

Amen.

 

[Paulhoff]

"Interpretation of Scripture comes only from within, by the Holy Spirit"

Does it for me, bible is not worth the trees cut down for it.

Tried to build a computer with it, no good, plane, no good, plant food, no good, defend against slavery, no good, become a Medical Doctor, no good, make a house, no good, build a ship, car, bridge, road, well the list is almost endless, again no good.

But if it is ok to kill men women and children, sell people, kill people if they don’t believe like you, find something to condem anyone you choose, well then it is right up there with Mein Kampf


Paul

 

[The Atheist]

Atheist
I made the staement "Its impossible for atheists to understand."
Show me?
Okay you inferred it.
Show your reasoning for the inference?
Dont have any?
Okay, you are shown.

Well, actually not. I didn't show the reasoning for my thinking since I was counting on you knowing your own words:

"Interpretation of Scripture comes only from within, by the Holy Spirit"

To me, that reads that understanding of scripture can only be achieved through the holy spirit. As an atheist, that's a physical impossibility.

If I read that wrong, or you meant something else, please feel free to enlighten...

Who's jumping to conclusions here?

 

[The Atheist]

Some context:
1 Timothy 6:12-21:

Amen.

That's one of the few bits of the bible I go along with.

 

[Huntster]

Originally Posted by Huntster
Some context:
1 Timothy 6:12-21:

Amen.

That's one of the few bits of the bible I go along with.

I'm getting to understand you better as I read your posts. I betcha' I can come up with a myriad of biblical quotes you can agree with.

 

[kurious_kathy]

Many people suffered and die a death much worse then Jesus to save others, so what, (besides your delusions about Jesus) makes him so special, the word is NOTHING.

Paul

He gives us purpose for being, and without Him no one is whole!

Colossians 1:16...For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him.

 

[zizzybaluba]

He gives us purpose for being, and without Him no one is whole!

Colossians 1:16...For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him.

Bow to me, for I am the Donut, the One Who is not Whole!