Bumper sticker. . .(shudder)

[EnanMyHero]

And don't even compare my faith to something like a cult.

Dear what the hell do you think Christianity is???? it IS A CULT. Just a widely accepted cult. All religions are cults, just some are more acceptable to the greater majority of people.

A life without God is no life at all!

Maybe not for some thick-headed people, but for me it's just fine.

On a side note I personlly don't think god or the devil exist because I was willing to sell my soul to the devil to ensure Enan's recovery and long life. No go so even your stories of the devil willing to barter is utter crap...

[edit to fix speeling]

 

[Roadtoad]

On a side note I personlly don't think god or the devil exist because I was willing to sell my soul to the devil to ensure Enan's recovery and long life. No go so even your stories of the devil willing to barter is utter crap...

And now we see the depths a parent will descend to for the sake of their children. [sarcasm]But, heaven forbid, since Alan has admitted to this that Enan would have survived! Right? I mean, this just goes to show how unworthy this man is to raise a child.[/sarcasm]

This thread isn't about God at all. It's not about devotion to said deity. It's now become jerk-off material for the pseudobelievers. It has descended into theistic prattle. I'm done.

 

[ynot]

This one may have already been posted but the thread is too long to bother checking. Saw it recently.

“The beatings will continue until morale improves”

A message from God perhaps?

 

[Azure]

Kinda funny how some people like to claim God exists, and post links from the Bible and such, while others claim God doesn't exist, and post links from books/resouces that claim God doesn't exist.

I guess the moral highground of being neutral in such debates doesn't exist anymore.

 

[kurious_kathy]

Kinda funny how some people like to claim God exists, and post links from the Bible and such, while others claim God doesn't exist, and post links from books/resouces that claim God doesn't exist.

I guess the moral highground of being neutral in such debates doesn't exist anymore.

I'm sure there are still many people who haven't chose which side they're truely on?

I like Joshua had to come the point where I not only chose to believe in Christ, but I'll challenge others to believe in Him too. "Choose this day whom you will serve!"

Jesus is the Messiah and He is alive!!

 

[ynot]

Kinda funny how some people like to claim God exists, and post links from the Bible and such, while others claim God doesn't exist, and post links from books/resouces that claim God doesn't exist.

I guess the moral highground of being neutral in such debates doesn't exist anymore.

By “funny” I take it you mean funny peculiar rather than funny ha ha. If so, you find it peculiar that people support their beliefs by providing some form of evidence? How do you support your beliefs?

“The moral Highground” - I don’t even want to comment.

By definition, you cannot debate and be neutral.

I find your comments kinda funny ha ha

 

[ynot]

I'm sure there are still many people who haven't chose which side they're truely on?

I like Joshua had to come the point where I not only chose to believe in Christ, but I'll challenge others to believe in Him too. "Choose this day whom you will serve!"

Jesus is the Messiah and He is alive!!

I don’t think you’re kurious at all Kathy. I think your mind is pretty well made up.

 

[kurious_kathy]

I don’t think you’re kurious at all Kathy. I think your mind is pretty well made up.

Yep. But I get curious about other stuff too. I just try hard to keep in it perspective with what God's word tells us is truth.

1 John 1: 6-7 is a good example of that...If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth;
but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

 

[ynot]

Yep. But I get curious about other stuff too. I just try hard to keep in it perspective with what God's word tells us is truth.

1 John 1: 6-7 is a good example of that...If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth;
but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

Oh . . . I get it now . . . You know that you know everything, you’re just curios why other people don’t know what you know. Your light definitely shines from the pink end of the spectrum

 

[Azure]

I'm sure there are still many people who haven't chose which side they're truely on?

I like Joshua had to come the point where I not only chose to believe in Christ, but I'll challenge others to believe in Him too. "Choose this day whom you will serve!"

Jesus is the Messiah and He is alive!!

True, but I kinda doubt you're going to change anyone's mind here on this thread.

Just for sake of debate, after reading through the thread, I agree more with you the any of the others, simply because I was born in a religious family and many of the views you express were taught to me.

Not that I agree 100% with your views, but I certainly believe in a God, or a higher being for that matter, and you could say it would be the same God you believe in.

Plus, you seem like a nice person, someone who is genuine in your beliefs, and I guess that adds to my opinion.

 

[Azure]

By “funny” I take it you mean funny peculiar rather than funny ha ha. If so, you find it peculiar that people support their beliefs by providing some form of evidence? How do you support your beliefs?

“The moral Highground” - I don’t even want to comment.

By definition, you cannot debate and be neutral.

I find your comments kinda funny ha ha

Not really. The evidence you might provide, is exactly the same as the evidence Kathy provides.

Its the same idea.

It actually suprises me how many people flat-out have denied the existance of God in this thread.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Not really. The evidence you might provide, is exactly the same as the evidence Kathy provides.

What evidence has Kathy provided?

It actually suprises me how many people flat-out have denied the existance of God in this thread.

Why? Do you believe in Shiva? Or Hanuman? What about Zeus or Huitzilopochtli? If not how is it that you deny their existence? Do you have any evidence that the Judeo/Christian/Muslim God is any more real than any of the thousands of other gods worshiped throughout human history?

Steven

 

[RandFan]

I'm sure there are still many people who haven't chose which side they're truely on?

I choose not to believe in thousands of year old oral history that was primarily alegorical and much of it contradictory and sadistic.

Moses said to them, "Have you saved all the women alive?

Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against Yahweh in the matter of Peor, and so the plague was among the congregation of Yahweh.

Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him.

--Numbers, 31:14-17

Nice God, no thanks.

 

[Azure]

What evidence has Kathy provided?

Biblical evidence, which, considering that he belief is centered around faith, is the only sort of evidence that she COULD provide.

Its easier for you to attack her belief, then for her to defend it.

Why? Do you believe in Shiva? Or Hanuman? What about Zeus or Huitzilopochtli? If not how is it that you deny their existence? Do you have any evidence that the Judeo/Christian/Muslim God is any more real than any of the thousands of other gods worshiped throughout human history?

Seeing that most of us are from North America, I would expect the majority to believe in "God" and not deny his existance.

Atheists make up a very low percentage of the population.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Biblical evidence, which, considering that he belief is centered around faith, is the only sort of evidence that she COULD provide.

She may as well quote the Baghavad Ghita or the Koran then. The evidence they offer is no stronger or weaker than the Bible.
Q: What evidence do you have in support of "God"?
A: Faith.
Q: What evidence do you have in support of Hanuman?
A: Faith.
Q: What evidence do you have in Support of Zeus?
A: Faith.

Its easier for you to attack her belief, then for her to defend it.

And what does that tell you?

Seeing that most of us are from North America, I would expect the majority to believe in "God" and not deny his existance.

Well then you should be happy as the majority does believe in "God".

Atheists make up a very low percentage of the population.

So do theoretical physicists. What's your point? Does the religion with the most followers get to keep the Stanley Cup of Absolute Truth?

Steven

 

[Paulhoff]

1. If a religion basically says "We are right, everyone else is wrong", then it is harmful.
2. If people within the religion are not able to challenge their religion, then it is harmful.
3. If a religion holds back or puts down anyone within the religion, then it is harmful.
4. If a religion does not allow anyone to leave and or change their believes, then it is harmful.
5. If a religion holds back or puts down anyone outside their religion, then it is harmful.
6. If a religion says that god is only behind their country, then it is harmful.
7. If a religion keeps you blind to the people real needs, then it is harmful
8. If people within a religion lies to protect it's members, then it is harmful.
9. If a religion lies to protect itself from the truth, then it is harmful.
10. If a religion lies about the truth, then it is harmful.
11. If a religion says that if you are not the norm, you are no good, then it is harmful.
12. If a religion separates their god from nature, then it is harmful.
13. If a religion does not change has information about the world and universe change, then it is harmful.

Paul

 

[ynot]

Not really. The evidence you might provide, is exactly the same as the evidence Kathy provides.

Its the same idea.

In which case we would be in a state of agreement, not debate.

It actually suprises me how many people flat-out have denied the existance of God in this thread.

Your use of the term “denied” presupposes that the existence of “God” is proven and that others are denying this proof. This is not so. I don’t deny the existence of a god or any superior deity, leprechauns, aliens, tooth fairies, pink unicorns, etc. I refute that any evidence exist to that proves their existence.

Yeah, I kinda like Kathy too. What I like about her is that she appears to be genuine and sincere in her beliefs and is totally up-front about them. Regardless of how deluded I may think she is, I respect her for that.

 

[Azure]

She may as well quote the Baghavad Ghita or the Koran then. The evidence they offer is no stronger or weaker than the Bible.
Q: What evidence do you have in support of "God"?
A: Faith.
Q: What evidence do you have in support of Hanuman?
A: Faith.
Q: What evidence do you have in Support of Zeus?
A: Faith.

Thanks for proving my point. The belief IS centered around faith. Is there anything wrong with that.

We use the idea of "faith" daily in our lives - seems natural to me that someone could have a religious belief based on faith.

And what does that tell you?

What should it tell me? That you get a kick out of someone that can't cite physical evidence for something you don't believe exists?

 

[Azure]

In which case we would be in a state of agreement, not debate.

Maybe so.

Your use of the term “denied” presupposes that the existence of “God” is proven and that others are denying this proof. This is not so. I don’t deny the existence of a god or any superior deity, leprechauns, aliens, tooth fairies, pink unicorns, etc. I refute that any evidence exist to that proves their existence.

That would be your belief.

Reading many of the bumper stickers, some of which I find hilarious, it is obvious that most people don't believe in a God, or for that matter a Creator.

Yeah, I kinda like Kathy too. What I like about her is that she appears to be genuine and sincere in her beliefs and is totally up-front about them. Regardless of how deluded I may think she is, I respect her for that.

You weren't the person who citied her spelling mistakes as an example either, so I can look upon your posts with a proper attitude.

As soon as someone disrespects a fellow member, for whatever skills/talents they lack, I ignore their posts.

 

[SezMe]

Reading many of the bumper stickers, some of which I find hilarious, it is obvious that most people don't believe in a God, or for that matter a Creator.

I doubt reading bumper stickers is a good way to gather data on the demographics of a belief in god.

The American Religious Indentification Survey is the longest ongoing survey of religious attitudes in America. It shows that roughly 3% of the population self-identifies as an atheist. It also shows that about 14% are non-religious.

Now this survey does not include Canada so, unless you Canucks are A LOT different that us Yanks, your "obvious" conclusion is wrong. Badly wrong.