Bubba Clinton Shouts Down BLM Hecklivists

Skeptic Ginger said:
This is relevant why?
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Because it would demonstrate that you have different rules for one particular candidate, and accept and excuse actions only for that one person. Which is not uncommon, it's completely understandable, but it is something you shouldn't pair with accusing others of 'derangement syndromes' and 'cults' and drinking Kool-Aid.
 
Joy Reed interviewing people in Brooklyn for MSNBC reports people are not overly offended by the joke.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
This is relevant why?
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Because it is a joke in the same vein as "you know those people are always late"

Had this been not immediately after the other incidents, had they not had the only black guy there in costume (seriously, why was Odom in costume? So they wouldn't confuse him for Samuel L Jackson?) this might have gone over better.

But this is just further proof of how astoundingly tone deaf and unprepared Hillary, her campaign and her supporters are. People aren't outraged, mainly because this stuff has been going on for too long to shock anyone, especially the folks whose expense this is done at.
 
OK, then explain it in your own words. If it is not a reference to the stereotype that black people are constantly late (because they are lazy) then what is it?
 
Donal said:
Because it is a joke in the same vein as "you know those people are always late"

Had this been not immediately after the other incidents, had they not had the only black guy there in costume (seriously, why was Odom in costume? So they wouldn't confuse him for Samuel L Jackson?) this might have gone over better.

But this is just further proof of how astoundingly tone deaf and unprepared Hillary, her campaign and her supporters are. People aren't outraged, mainly because this stuff has been going on for too long to shock anyone, especially the folks whose expense this is done at.
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So, if there is basically no fallout/consequences from this, other than some play in the 24-hour news cycle... doesn't that imply that it's not the Clinton campaign who is astoundingly tone deaf ?

And yes, I say this believing there will be no consequences.

Also, TIL that black people are constantly late is a stereotype.
 
Are there ever real consequences? And you are assuming the mainstream media is all that interested in long term fallout rather than moving on to tomorrow's popular soundbite.

But when November rolls around and Hillary doesn't get as many black voters as she expects, maybe we can revisit this conversation.
 
Donal said:
Are there ever real consequences?
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Ask Howard Dean, or Michael Dukakis...

Donal said:
And you are assuming the mainstream media is all that interested in long term fallout rather than moving on to tomorrow's popular soundbite.
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No, just soundbites. This wasn't about the msm.

Donal said:
But when November rolls around and Hillary doesn't get as many black voters as she expects, maybe we can revisit this conversation.
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Sure.

Tell me how many she is expecting now, if it's realistic, and how we tell if her "tonedeafness" is actually related to that final number.
 
TheL8Elvis said:
Ask Howard Dean, or Michael Dukakis...
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About what? Running out of money and getting trounced? Or are we still under the "yell" and "tank picture" myths?



No, just soundbites. This wasn't about the msm.
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No, its about Hillary not caring.


Sure.

Tell me how many she is expecting now, if it's realistic, and how we tell if her "tonedeafness" is actually related to that final number.
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You think it helps?
 
Puppycow said:
NPR identified them as BLM protesters, and they talked with at least one of the protesters afterward:

http://www.npr.org/2016/04/07/47342...ed-exchange-with-black-lives-matter-protester
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A potentially useful piece of evidence - although they actually only called them "black protestors" in the audio.

Clinton was making the point that there were African American groups at the time who favored the bill. It was not simply a matter of the white politicians doing this unilaterally. IT turns out that a majority of the congressional black caucus voted for it too:

http://reason.com/blog/2015/04/30/former-cbc-chair-who-voted-for-1994-crim
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Yes, I've said that. Even at the time, a lot of black people wanted a bill that was more focused on the sorts of social aid that has been used among white communities, rather than the angry punitive approach that has traditionally been used to control crime in black communities. But back in the crack era, when people were truly terrified that their neighborhoodwere tearing themselves apart, it was "take whatever you can get".
 
We confronted Bill Clinton about race: “In that moment he revealed himself and his true thoughts on black people”

In that moment he revealed himself and his true thoughts on black people. He likely had lots to do with his wife calling us “super predators” and that “we need to be brought to heel” like we were animals.
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Revealed is not a word I would have chosen given that his wife bragged about getting support from "hard-working Americans, white Americans" in 2008
 
TheL8Elvis said:
Remind me why i should give a **** what a random BLM activist thinks ?
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"Random"?

They were the ones that were actually there, as detailed in the article.

Although I am not surprised you don't give a **** about what they say, Hillary and Bill don't either.
 
16.5 said:
"Random"?

They were the ones that were actually there, as detailed in the article.
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How does that make them less random ? They happened to get President Clintons attention, and he had an exchange with them. They are still simply random BLM activists at a an event.

16.5 said:
Although I am not surprised you don't give a **** about what they say, Hillary and Bill don't either.
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That's your conclusion, not what I said. I expect no less, though.
 
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