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Browne wrong again: Chandra Levy

"Arrest is imminent in intern's killing"

Recall Browne using this case as evidence of her "ability," well here is an update on the case:

Arrest is imminent in intern's killing
San Francisco Chronicle
2-21-2009

The parents of Chandra Levy, the federal government intern whose 2001 disappearance and slaying horrified the nation and ended the career of a California congressman, said Saturday that police told them a suspect will soon be arrested and charged with murder.

Susan and Robert Levy told The Chronicle they are relieved and gratified that the 8-year-old case may be reaching a resolution.

"It's taken a long time," said Susan Levy, 61, sitting in the living room of the family's ranch-style home in Modesto. "It's a poignantly bitter victory. This has been a long eight years."

The Levys said they were called late Friday by Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier, who told them that an arrest warrant would be issued and that the evidence against the suspect was strong and would result in a conviction.
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Lanier did not name the suspect or provide any information about him, the Levys said. The Washington Post, quoting anonymous sources, identified him as 27-year-old Ingmar Guandique, who has been a suspect in the case for the past seven years.

Guandique was convicted of attacking two women at knifepoint in Rock Creek Park in Washington in May 2001, around the same time that Levy disappeared while jogging in the same park. Her body was discovered there a year later.

Guandique, who is serving a 10-year sentence at the federal prison in Adelanto (San Bernardino County), has denied killing Levy. Metropolitan Police Department officials would not explain what new evidence may link him to the killing.
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Infamous affair
Levy, a 24-year-old intern for the U.S. Bureau of Prisons, was having a romantic affair with Gary Condit, a married congressman who represented Modesto and the Central Valley. Police repeatedly interviewed Condit in connection with Levy's disappearance, and the story transfixed the nation for months.

Condit was never charged. He lost a re-election bid in 2002. Three years later, he and his family opened two ice cream parlors in Arizona.
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San Francisco Chronicle

We'll see how this unfolds, but its clear Browne has no help whatsoever in this.
 
QG- You beat me to it! I was right about to post the same thing!!

I found a blog post that alleged that Browne had claimed the case would be solved in 2002:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...+browne+chandra+levy&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

Refresh my memory- is that what she predicted?

Edit: Oh boy. Yes she did :(.

http://www.lexisnexis.com.proxy.wex...2&treeMax=true&treeWidth=0&csi=157447&docNo=5

WILLIAMS: Vanessa may have witnessed a crime when she was only three years old.
Plus, what's behind the strange happenings in her house? Sylvia knows.
PERSEPHONE (Fears An Evil Entity Is Haunting Her House): Oh, my God.
WILLIAMS: And will they find out the truth about the Chandra Levy case?
Announcer: Don't go away. That's coming up right now on MONTEL.
WILLIAMS: Welcome, welcome, welcome and thank you so much for joining us to a--today. You know, our guests today say there's only one person in the world who can help them with some answers to some questions that they have, and you know who it is. Please welcome author of the book "Prayers," world-renowned psychic Sylvia Browne. Welcome her to the show.
How are you, darling? Thank you. You know, I tell you something, I had--Sylvia's been on the show so much that people are--you know, everywhere I go, people walk up to me and say, 'You know, you know Sylvia. Do you really know Sylvia?' Because they've seen you here, but the people are still questioning whether or not you have the ability to do what it is you do. So you talked to the media about something that everybody's reading about every single day in the news, and that's the Chandra Levy case, correct?
Ms. BROWNE: Yes.
WILLIAMS: You spoke to the media how long ago about this?
Ms. BROWNE: Two weeks after she was missing.
WILLIAMS: Two weeks after she was missing, and you told--you said specifically to--I won't say the name of the person in the media, but something very important. You said, if they were to check what?
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. To the--more to the right and down by the ravine and near some water. They're looking in the right park in the wrong place.
WILLIAMS: You made specific comments about this that nobody paid attention to, and a year later, where did they find--well, take a look at a tape of what was eventually reported. Take a look at this.
(Excerpt from videotape)
Unidentified Woman #1: It was a story that dominated headlines more than a year ago: the disappearance of Chandra Levy. On May 22nd of this year, a man walking his dog in Rock Creek Park found human remains, which police say have been identified as Chandra Levy. Levy was a frequent visitor to the 1,700-acre park, which is only four miles from her apartment. Police searched the park extensively last May, following her disappearance, and will now try to determine if the body was placed there at a later point.
(End of excerpt)
WILLIAMS: Let me ask you this question. Without--because, you know, we talked a little bit backstage.
Ms. BROWNE: I know.
WILLIAMS: Now I got--we're not going to do that.
Ms. BROWNE: I--I know. I know.
WILLIAMS: But I can do this part.
Ms. BROWNE: I know you can.
WILLIAMS: Let me ask you this question. Do you think...
Ms. BROWNE: OK. We're talking in code, you know.
WILLIAMS: We're talking in code. Do you think Chandra Levy's murder--follow me with this...
Ms. BROWNE: I...
WILLIAMS: ...is a bait-and-switch? Meaning, that body was placed there deliberately to confuse people of who the real perpetrator was.
Ms. BROWNE: Right.
WILLIAMS: So the news media is leaning towards--let's put it this way. The news media is leaning right now towards trying to say that...
Ms. BROWNE: It was done by a serial...
WILLIAMS: ...she may have been murdered by a serial killer.
Ms. BROWNE: No.
WILLIAMS: The media's trying to say that they may already have the person in custody that has done so.
Ms. BROWNE: No.
WILLIAMS: The media is trying to say that this just happened because she just happened to be jogging along the road.
Ms. BROWNE: No.
WILLIAMS: I won't ask anymore questions.
Ms. BROWNE: That's right.
WILLIAMS: But all those--all those you say 'no' to.
Ms. BROWNE: Right.
WILLIAMS: Will they find out the truth about the Chandra Levy case?
Ms. BROWNE: Yes, they will.
WILLIAMS: How long will it be?
Ms. BROWNE: It'll be from this time, probably fall.
WILLIAMS: Fall. And they will have an arrest.
Ms. BROWNE: Don't--don't--I--I know where you...
WILLIAMS: I won't do it. All right.
Ms. BROWNE: See, I a--boy, I can read your mind, because it's real scary...
WILLIAMS: I--I know. No, I won't do it. Look, let's talk to a couple people who came here today because they know...
Ms. BROWNE: Sure. I want to talk to all of them.
WILLIAMS: ...that you are the only person that probably has answers to the questions that they have. And our first guest distovered--discovered that her 18-year-old daughter was murdered in her apartment. I want you to take a look at this.
(Excerpt from videotape)
 
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EeneyMinnieMoe said:
Refresh my memory- is that what she predicted?
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I didn't see that. But I just found:

SHOW: THE MONTEL WILLIAMS SHOW
DATE: July 1, 2002 Monday
SHOW: The Montel Williams Show (5:00 PM ET) - SYND
TITLE: Journey beyond with Sylvia Browne; world-renowned psychic Sylvia Browne answers questions from audience members
LENGTH: 8468 words
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Montel Williams, Diane Rappoport

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MONTEL WILLIAMS: Can psychic Sylvia Browne help solve these mysteries? Who brutally killed Joanne's 18-year-old daughter?

Ms. SYLVIA BROWNE (World Renowned Psychic): He had a very definite cleft palate.
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WILLIAMS: And will they find out the truth about the Chandra Levy case?

Announcer: Don't go away. That's coming up right now on MONTEL.

WILLIAMS: Welcome, welcome, welcome and thank you so much for joining us to a--today. You know, our guests today say there's only one person in the world who can help them with some answers to some questions that they have, and you know who it is. Please welcome author of the book "Prayers," world-renowned psychic Sylvia Browne. Welcome her to the show.

How are you, darling? Thank you. You know, I tell you something, I had--Sylvia's been on the show so much that people are--you know, everywhere I go, people walk up to me and say, 'You know, you know Sylvia. Do you really know Sylvia?' Because they've seen you here, but the people are still questioning whether or not you have the ability to do what it is you do. So you talked to the media about something that everybody's reading about every single day in the news, and that's the Chandra Levy case, correct?

Ms. BROWNE: Yes.

WILLIAMS: You spoke to the media how long ago about this?

Ms. BROWNE: Two weeks after she was missing.

WILLIAMS: Two weeks after she was missing, and you told--you said specifically to--I won't say the name of the person in the media, but something very important. You said, if they were to check what?

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. To the--more to the right and down by the ravine and near some water. They're looking in the right park in the wrong place.

WILLIAMS: You made specific comments about this that nobody paid attention to, and a year later, where did they find--well, take a look at a tape of what was eventually reported. Take a look at this.

(Excerpt from videotape)

Unidentified Woman #1: It was a story that dominated headlines more than a year ago: the disappearance of Chandra Levy. On May 22nd of this year, a man walking his dog in Rock Creek Park found human remains, which police say have been identified as Chandra Levy. Levy was a frequent visitor to the 1,700-acre park, which is only four miles from her apartment. Police searched the park extensively last May, following her disappearance, and will now try to determine if the body was placed there at a later point.

(End of excerpt)

WILLIAMS: Let me ask you this question. Without--because, you know, we talked a little bit backstage.

Ms. BROWNE: I know.

WILLIAMS: Now I got--we're not going to do that.

Ms. BROWNE: I--I know. I know.

WILLIAMS: But I can do this part.

Ms. BROWNE: I know you can.

WILLIAMS: Let me ask you this question. Do you think...

Ms. BROWNE: OK. We're talking in code, you know.

WILLIAMS: We're talking in code. Do you think Chandra Levy's murder--follow me with this...

Ms. BROWNE: I...

WILLIAMS: ...is a bait-and-switch? Meaning, that body was placed there deliberately to confuse people of who the real perpetrator was.

Ms. BROWNE: Right.

WILLIAMS: So the news media is leaning towards--let's put it this way. The news media is leaning right now towards trying to say that...

Ms. BROWNE: It was done by a serial...

WILLIAMS: ...she may have been murdered by a serial killer.

Ms. BROWNE: No.

WILLIAMS: The media's trying to say that they may already have the person in custody that has done so.

Ms. BROWNE: No.

WILLIAMS: The media is trying to say that this just happened because she just happened to be jogging along the road.

Ms. BROWNE: No.

WILLIAMS: I won't ask anymore questions.

Ms. BROWNE: That's right.

WILLIAMS: But all those--all those you say 'no' to.

Ms. BROWNE: Right.

WILLIAMS: Will they find out the truth about the Chandra Levy case?

Ms. BROWNE: Yes, they will.

WILLIAMS: How long will it be?

Ms. BROWNE: It'll be from this time, probably fall.

WILLIAMS: Fall. And they will have an arrest.

Ms. BROWNE: Don't--don't--I--I know where you...

WILLIAMS: I won't do it. All right.

Ms. BROWNE: See, I a--boy, I can read your mind, because it's real scary...

WILLIAMS: I--I know. No, I won't do it. Look, let's talk to a couple people who came here today because they know...

Ms. BROWNE: Sure. I want to talk to all of them.

WILLIAMS: ...that you are the only person that probably has answers to the questions that they have. And our first guest distovered--discovered that her 18-year-old daughter was murdered in her apartment. I want you to take a look at this.

(Excerpt from videotape)

JOANNE (18-Year-Old Daughter's Murder Is Unsolved): My daughter Jill was the light of my life, and everyone that knew her loved her. Jill loved spending time with her sisters and her pet dog and doing all the things that teen-agers love to do. But all of that changed last year. And the morning that I found Jill slain in her apartment will haunt me forever.
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She was wrong on two accounts. The date of it being solved and her claim that the killer wasn't captured (he was- Ingmar Guandique was arrested on July 1, 2001 for attacking a woman and convicted of that and other crimes in February 2002 then sentenced to 10 years.)
 
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You want to hear the most head-shaking thing?

Another psychic claims that Sylvia Browne contacted the family herself- something SB declared that she didn't do in that interview- and that SB failed to impress them.

http://books.google.com/books?id=21...owne+levy&ei=Xd-gSbDdC4HCzgS9pY2MAg#PPA110,M1

Does anyone know if Sylvia ever mentioned Chandra Levy in any of her books? As far as I can tell it's not in the one she was promoting with Paula Zahn but it could appear in others.
 
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EeneyMinnieMoe said:
Does anyone know if Sylvia ever mentioned Chandra Levy in any of her books? As far as I can tell it's not in the one she was promoting with Paula Zahn but it could appear in others.
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In two books, but nothing of substance. Just along the lines of famous cases people talk about.

EeneyMinnieMoe said:
You want to hear the most head-shaking thing?

Another psychic claims that Sylvia Browne contacted the family herself- something SB declared that she didn't do in that interview- and that SB failed to impress them.

http://books.google.com/books?id=21...owne+levy&ei=Xd-gSbDdC4HCzgS9pY2MAg#PPA110,M1
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Good catch. From your link:

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"I'm normally an open person," Mrs Levy tells me, placing a cup of tea and some cake in front of me. "Ever since Chandra has been missing..." Her voice trails off then abruptly comes back. "You won't believe who called me. Sylvia Browne! Ridiculous. Said she saw Chandra in a white tank top, can you believe it? This was after the picture of Chandra in her white top had been on the news for weeks."

Mrs. Levy takes a seat opposite me. "I hung up on Sylvia. It was nonsense, really. Nothing she couldn't have read in the papers."
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From: Psychic Diaries By Lysa Mateu, Lysa Moskowitz-Mateu page 110




Unrelated to that quote, but something interesting about the press in this case:

PAPER: The Globe and Mail (Canada)
DATE: November 10, 2001 Saturday
TITLE: Channelling the masses; In uncertain times, GAYLE MacDONALD writes, prime-time psychics; are jostling for a place on the tube - and potential ratings heaven
BYLINE: GAYLE MacDONALD
SECTION: WEEKEND REVIEW; Pg. R4
LENGTH: 1590 words

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In the past year, the new breed of spiritualists - including Edward, Praagh, Anderson, Rosemary Altea and Sylvia Browne - have been making cameos on several prominent shows, including 20/20, Oprah, Dateline NBC, Larry King Live and Today. The psychic hotlines have lit up for Miss Cleo (omnipresent on late-night infomercials). And the Fox News Channel was among the first to call up the clairvoyants the moment love-struck intern Chandra Levy, linked to politician Gary Condit, went missing.
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And speaking of Fox, Rosemary Altea and Paula Zahn-

http://www.lexisnexis.com.proxy.wex...4&treeMax=true&treeWidth=0&csi=174179&docNo=1

ROSEMARY ALTEA, SPIRITUAL MEDIUM: Well, If I can help the Levy family, and they want me to help, then I will do my best to see what I can do.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ZAHN: And welcome back to THE EDGE.


We are back with more on the Chandra Levy case. "People" magazine is reporting that Dr. and Mrs. Levy authorized a close friend to seek a psychic's help in finding their daughter. The psychic reportedly told the friend Chandra is alive and wants to come home but cannot.

Joining us now on the phone from Vermont is spiritual medium Rosemary Altea, who is not connected to the "People" story but recently spoke with Chandra's father, Robert.

Welcome back to THE EDGE. Rosemary.
ALTEA: Thank you, Paula.

ZAHN: Do you think Chandra Levy is alive?

ALTEA: I think that that question is something that we should -- we should talk to the family about. I have offered my services to the family, as you know. We -- I was on your show two weeks ago, I think, and they -- although the father did seem to be very interested in speaking to me, when I was not available to speak to him one day -- you know, I am a busy person, I have lots of appointments -- he didn't get back to talk to me. And obviously, you know, the family's going through great stress and so on.

I still -- my offer still holds to talk to him, if they would like me to see what I can do. I would do it just for them. It puzzles me, you know -- the situation is as it is. Nobody knows what's happening. The police are in the dark. It really puzzles me that people don't actually seek the help of people like myself, not that we promise that we can do something. But certainly, we can promise that we will try to do something.

And you know, I think that leaving no stone unturned means perhaps, you know, putting yourself out a little, you know, doing something that you perhaps wouldn't normally do, coming to someone like me, someone reputable, someone, you know, who's going to be careful and, you know, respectful of the family and the family's wishes.

ZAHN: Yeah. And the last time you were on the show, you described a criminal case you got involved with in Great Britain, where you actually cracked the case. And I'm curious -- I know it's unprofessional for you to try to analyze another psychic's work, but describe to us -- if there was some sort of connection, what you as a psychic medium would see. I mean, would you see Chandra? Would you hear her? How would you be aware of her presence?

ALTEA: Well, first of all, if she were -- if she were not alive, then -- then the chances of my communicating with her would be great. So I would -- if she were not alive, I would certainly be able to speak with her, if she wished to speak with me, which I'm sure she would, giving her family the opportunity to understand that -- you know, that she -- that she was safe but in a different way than they perhaps hope.

I just recently was involved in a missing persons case, and a woman was missing in January, and I was able to speak with her and to describe, in fact, where she did go missing and so on. I'm still involved in that case a little bit. We're trying to locate where, in fact, the exact spot that she was missing.

And so yes, if -- if Chandra were not alive, the chances of my speaking with her would be great. If she were alive, then the chances of my speaking with someone in their family who maybe would be able to help with the investigation and maybe to give some details -- certainly, you know, that's a possibility, too. It's -- it's very difficult. I can't say to you, "Yes, I can definitely do this," because I don't know until I try. But you know, I've not yet been given the opportunity to try, and I think that that's a great shame.

ZAHN: Let me ask you this, Rosemary. In general, what is the level of cynicism that is directed at folks like you, spiritual mediums, from investigators within the police department?

ALTEA: Well, individual policemen will actually come -- and there is -- you know, there is very little cynicism from the individual. When it gets to the more official level, and you know, the -- you know, the force itself becomes officially involved, then, of course, you hear a great deal of cynicism.

And you know, I can understand that. I think it's right for people to be skeptical. I think they have to be skeptical. But we're talking about a situation where you would not leave a stone unturned, and so let's not leave any stone unturned. That would be my feeling.

ZAHN: Well, Rosemary Altea, we appreciate your joining us tonight. Always better to have you in person, but appreciate your making the effort on the phone tonight.

ALTEA: It's my pleasure, Paula. Thank you.

ZAHN: Thank you, Rosemary.

And we're going to change gears quite a bit when we come back. This father refuses to pay child support, and now a judge is forbidding him to father any more children. Is that ruling over the edge? You can decide, next.



QG, let me ask you something. Do you ever feel like hitting something at moments like these?
 
Update on the case:

Suspect indicted in Chandra Levy slaying
The Associated Press
‎May 20, 2009‎

WASHINGTON (AP) — A grand jury has returned an indictment against the man accused of killing federal intern Chandra Levy in 2001.

Twenty-seven-year-old Ingmar Guandique (gwahn-DEE-kay) was indicted on charges of first-degree murder, kidnapping, attempted first-degree sexual abuse and other offenses.

He will be arraigned on May 27 and is in jail.
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Update:

After 9 years and Condit's fall, Levy trial begins‎
The Associated Press
October 17, 2010


If one person is associated with the mysterious slaying of Washington intern Chandra Levy, it isn't the man who will soon be tried on charges he murdered her. It's former California congressman Gary Condit, whose political career imploded after he was romantically linked to the woman and became the No. 1 suspect.

Ingmar Guandique, an illegal immigrant from El Salvador, goes on trial Monday for Levy's 2001 killing. However, he's not even a blip on the national consciousness of the case, which dominated news coverage until the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks rendered it an afterthought.
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Defense attorneys are also subject to the gag order. But when Guandique was charged in 2009 with Levy's murder, they criticized what they saw as a botched investigation. Guandique escaped scrutiny in large part because of the frenzy around Condit. The former congressman never admitted an affair but said he was friends with Levy, though the intern had told family members the two had a romantic relationship.
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Full: The Associated Press


and:

In disguise, police wrote to Chandra Levy suspect‎
By Keith L. Alexander
Washington Post
October 15, 2010


District law enforcement officers disguised themselves as a Latina woman and wrote letters to Ingmar Guandique while he was in a California prison, hoping Guandique would confess his involvement in the slaying of federal government intern Chandra Levy, defense attorneys revealed at a hearing Thursday in D.C. Superior Court.
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The officers wrote the letters to Guandique under the name Maria Lopez between 2004 and 2005. Guandique was serving a 10-year sentence for attacking two women in Rock Creek Park in May 2001, around the same time that Levy disappeared. Levy's skeletal remains were found in a secluded area of the park a year later.
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The conduct of the "psychics" is absolutely revolting.
Contacting that family like that, under those circumstances.

Is Altea a fraud or is she self deluded?
 
Near "some trees down in a marshy area."?? No, $#!+? What is amazing is that she was actually wrong, since she made the most likely guess that any reasonable intelligent person could make if asked, "where would you look for the body of a murder victim in the DC area?"
 
Some more Browne failed to predict:

Condit takes the stand in Levy case‎
November 1, 2010
Washington Post

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Condit testified that on April 29, 2001, he again heard from Levy, who left a message for him. When he called Levy back, she was following up about the meetings Condit had promised to line up for her.

"Did you ever hear from her again?" Assistant U.S. Attorney Amanda Haines asked Condit.

Asked whether he had a fight or cross words with Levy, Condit said the two of them had never had a fight and never had cross words.

When he didn't hear from her, though, Condit followed up with her, leaving two voice messages. Levy was planning to return to California for graduation, and by the time he left the second message, Condit figured she had left Washington.
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"Did you have anything to do with her disappearance," Haines asked him near the end of her questioning of the ex-Congressman.

"No, ma'am," he said.

"Did you kill her?," Haines asked.

"No, ma'am"

Asked why he had not admitted to police having had an affair with Levy, Condit said he thought he, his family and Levy were entitled to privacy and that that the country has lost its sense of "common decency."
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The verdict:

Chandra Levy trial: Ingmar Guandique found guilty of murder‎
Washington Post
November 22, 2010

A D.C. Superior Court jury on Monday found Ingmar Guandique guilty of first-degree murder in the slaying of former federal intern Chandra Levy.

The jury of nine women and three men reached its verdict after 3 1/2 days of deliberations.
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The final word on this case:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/12/us/12levy.html

The only thing Browne got right was that the killer eventually would be found.

And that is a yes or no question with only two possible answers. That he would be found- some way, at some point in time- is something that a coin flip could have told us equally well.
 
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