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British Troops Fighting Britons in Afghanistan?

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THOUSANDS of British-born Muslims have joined the Taliban in Afghanistan.

UK troops say they are facing a mini civil war as more Brits head out to fight for the enemy.

Senior officers said British-born Muslims from the West Midlands and Yorkshire have travelled to Helmand province and other parts of southern Afghanistan.

Interception of Taliban communications has revealed the sound of jihadists speaking with West Midlands accents.

One senior military source said: “It is the Punjabi and Kashmiri Urdu speakers who fall back into English in, for example, Brummie accents.

“You get the impression they have been told not to talk in English but sometimes can’t help it.”

Brigadier Ed Butler, the former commander of the British forces in Afghan-istan, said: “There are British passport holders who live in the UK who are being found in places such as Kandahar.”

Robert Emerson, a security analyst, added: “There is ample evidence British Muslims trained in camps in Pakistan.

“What is emerging now is a picture of them being more active in Afghanistan, either providing support and logistics or in active service.”

The US has stepped up surveillance inside Pakistan.

They believe the UK is not doing enough to curb radical Muslims.

Tory MP Patrick Mercer, chairman of the Commons’ sub-committee on anti-terrorism, which has been examining the activities of British Muslim extremists, said: “We know the problem we have with UK-based jihadists.
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And:
British Muslims are providing the Taliban with electronic devices to make roadside bombs for use in attacks against British forces serving in southern Afghanistan, The Telegraph can disclose.

The devices, which enable Taliban fighters to detonate roadside bombs by remote control, are either sent to sympathizers in the region, or carried by volunteers who fly to Pakistan and then make their way across the border.
Details of how British electronic components have been found in roadside bombs were given to David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary, when he visited British troops at their military compound at Lashkagar, in Helmand province, earlier this week.
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Apparently they're also becoming a major feature in Somalia - British-Somalis and British-Pakistanis appear to be getting radicalised in increasing numbers. At least they're heading off and blowing themselves up in Afghanistan-Pakistan and Somalia, instead of in London.

ETA.

Somalia is also becoming a destination for British Muslims of Somali extraction who have started fighting alongside al Qaeda-backed Islamist forces.

A 21-year-old Briton of Somali extraction, brought up in Ealing, west London, recently blew himself up in the town of Baidoa, killing 20 people.

MI5 head Jonathan Evans has raised the worrying issue of British citizens being indoctrinated in Somalia and Michael Hayden, the outgoing head of the CIA, said the conflict in the Horn of Africa had "catalysed" expatriate Somalis in the West.

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RAF Nimrod aircraft flying over Afghanistan at up to 12,000m have been picking up Taleban electronic "chatter" in which voices can be heard in West Midlands and Yorkshire accents.

This has risen in the past few months, with ground and air surveillance picking up the presence of more British voices in the Taleban front line. The numbers are shown to be dozens rather than hundreds, but the pattern of involvement is described as a cause for concern.

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British troops have a long history of shooting British citizens.
Glencoe, Culloden, Massachusetts, Belfast...
 
We're lucky Islam is the religion of peace. If that's how they act now, can you imagine how they would be if Islam was a religion of war?
 
Dr Adequate said:
I should still like to hear BPSGC's point, assuming that he has one.
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You mean apart from British citizens committing treason by taking up arms against British soldiers? Deserves condemnation by everyone I would have thought.
 
lionking said:
You mean apart from British citizens committing treason by taking up arms against British soldiers? Deserves condemnation by everyone I would have thought.
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Then my longstanding efforts to communicate the rudiments of the bleedin' obvious have not been in vain. Let me congratulate you on understanding something so blatantly evident that it would be readily comprehensible by prokaryotes.

Nonetheless, I suspect that BPSGC may wish to communicate some point so subtle that it can only be understood by higher life-forms, such as yeast, and I am all agog for him to tell us what it is.
 
What is the British army doing in Afghanistan anyway? Securing heroin production? They shouldn't be there. Brits go home!
 
Brits go home!
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Only the ones who are fighting terrorism and are serving their country, you mean.

Those Brits who combine terrorism with teason by fighting for the Taliban are freedom fighters who are welcome to stay and help establish the Taliban again.

Then, free of evil British imperialism, they would be free to forbid girls from learning to read and write, shoot anyone that moves which isn't Muslim, send women to jail for being raped, blow up statues, and so on.
 
Dr Adequate said:
Nonetheless, I suspect that BPSGC may wish to communicate some point so subtle that it can only be understood by higher life-forms, such as yeast, and I am all agog for him to tell us what it is.
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Please, DA, I have more respect for your intelligence than that. I've always been convinced you are much more intelligent than yeast, and I'll fight any man who says says otherwise. I'm sure if we did a poll ("Is Dr Adequate smarter than yeast? (Yes/No/On Planet X, yeast evolved from DA"), a large majority of responders would answer resoundingly in the affirmative.

Nevertheless, I'll acknowledge I might have been a little too subtle. You'll notice I phrased the title of the thread as a question. That was genuine, for two reasons. First, I'm not familiar with the newspaper that was the source of the first article; it looked pretty trashy, so I was wondering how well-sourced it was.

And second, I was surprised by the number of Brits alleged to be fighting for the Taliban. Thousands? WTF? :eek:

You may recall that in the aftermath of the US invasion of Afghanistan, an American was captured on the battlefield, who'd been fighting for the Taliban. It was such an unusual occurrence that it made the papers for quite a while there, much as a story of a three-headed goat might - it was considered to be something really freakish.

We regarded a single American fighting for the Taliban to be something of a freak show. Even today, with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan enjoying much less popularity than they did five years ago, you don't hear of anything of the kind happening.

But today we hear that thousands of British subjects are leaving the UK to take up arms against the British army.

Why are they doing this?

Seriously.
 
gumboot said:
Apparently they're also becoming a major feature in Somalia - British-Somalis and British-Pakistanis appear to be getting radicalised in increasing numbers.
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Somalia is more likely to be tribal. It's also in keeping with the long tradition of hopeless romantics/wanna be men of adventure going off to fight in civil wars in random countries.
 
twinstead said:
Well, I guess the world is more complicated than you wish it was, isn't it?
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Do you know what the British army is doing in Afghanistan, Mr/Ms Sophisticated?


Skeptic said:
Only the ones who are fighting terrorism and are serving their country, you mean.

Those Brits who combine terrorism with teason by fighting for the Taliban are freedom fighters who are welcome to stay and help establish the Taliban again.

Then, free of evil British imperialism, they would be free to forbid girls from learning to read and write, shoot anyone that moves which isn't Muslim, send women to jail for being raped, blow up statues, and so on.
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Step out of your propaganda-induced coma for a second, Skeptic. The Taliban are already well established again.

The imperialist occupation has not benefitted women. The UK/US forces are so hated that even Afghan women prefer the Taliban.

Get foreign fighters out of Afghanistan!

"For This I Blame America"

Afghanistan: Chaos Central

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22104.htm
 
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BPSCG said:
Why are they doing this?

Seriously.
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Well, I've always assumed that it was something to do with their religious beliefs

But maybe you're one of those "root-causers".

Really, what do you mean, "why"? 'Cos they're islamofascist fruitloops, that's why.
 
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