British Chiropractic Association v Simon Singh

In all of the discussions I have seen I have never found a single article defending the existing laws. If they are so obviously wrong ti should be simple to change them. Can someone point me towards anyone who supports the existing legal framework?
 
Hey! What about me? (Although I don't come here nearly as often as I should - and may be less modest!) :blush:

I think if you want to be thanked by your forum name you will have to out yourself. It is against the forum rules for anyone to link your real name with your user name unless it is both publicly known and relevant to the thread. I assume he thanked you by your real name in the link, so Jack of Kent can only refer to you here by your real name and not link it to your user name.
See rule 8 for details.
 
I think if you want to be thanked by your forum name you will have to out yourself. It is against the forum rules for anyone to link your real name with your user name unless it is both publicly known and relevant to the thread. I assume he thanked you by your real name in the link, so Jack of Kent can only refer to you here by your real name and not link it to your user name.
See rule 8 for details.

I think Zeno is being playful :) He is indeed mentioned by their real name...
 
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Although there is no good independent evidence for the existence of subluxations — and some evidence that they don’t exist and do not have any effect on nerve function — there can be little doubt that, without such beliefs, chiropractic does not have a leg to stand on
Is this really true? In "Trick or Treatment", Simon Singh and Edzard Ernst seem to say that there is evidence that chiropractic manipulations of the neck and spine has a positive effect. But they regard it as dangerous compared to the similar benefit of physiotherapeutic treatment, and therefore not to be recommended.
 
Is this really true? In "Trick or Treatment", Simon Singh and Edzard Ernst seem to say that there is evidence that chiropractic manipulations of the neck and spine has a positive effect. But they regard it as dangerous compared to the similar benefit of physiotherapeutic treatment, and therefore not to be recommended.
Manipulation (which is poorly defined and covers the gamut from the dying-strain that causes stroke, to simple massage) is not chiropracty. Chiro is identification and correction of (non-existent) subluxations. Physiotherapists do not provide the sudden, powerful neck-snaps that chiros use to cause strokes, nor do they have the subluxation superstition.
 
Manipulation (which is poorly defined and covers the gamut from the dying-strain that causes stroke, to simple massage) is not chiropracty. Chiro is identification and correction of (non-existent) subluxations. Physiotherapists do not provide the sudden, powerful neck-snaps that chiros use to cause strokes, nor do they have the subluxation superstition.
As described in "Trick or Treatment", there are actually a lot of chiropractors who do not subscribe to the subluxation superstition. Are they no longer practising chiropracty?

These are ones that often still claim they can treat infant colic and ear pains, so they are still interested parties in Simon Singh's libel case.
 
As described in "Trick or Treatment", there are actually a lot of chiropractors who do not subscribe to the subluxation superstition . Are they no longer practising chiropracty?

These are ones that often still claim they can treat infant colic and ear pains, so they are still interested parties in Simon Singh's libel case.


Not true. The majority of chiropractors still do subscribe to the superstition.

A recent survey revealed revealed the following about chiropractors in the UK:
“Overall, mechanical conditions of the musculoskeletal system were felt to be treated effectively by chiropractic intervention and there was 100% agreement that it was beneficial in treating mechanical dysfunctions of the spine. Non-musculoskeletal conditions in adults, including asthma (64%), gastro-intestinal complaints (61%) and pre-menstrual syndrome (PMS) (70%), were considered conditions that can benefit from chiropractic management. Opinions on the treatment of osteoporosis (43%), obesity (26%), hypertension (42%) and infertility (30%) were less conclusive. Childhood musculoskeletal and muscular conditions, infantile colic, otitis media and asthma were perceived to benefit from chiropractic intervention by more than 50% of the respondents.

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Traditional chiropractic beliefs (chiropractic philosophy) were deemed important by 76% of the respondents and 63% considered subluxation to be central to chiropractic intervention.”

http://www.cam-research-group.co.uk...linical Chiropractic 2007 10 3 pg 147-155.pdf
[Aranka Pollentier and Jennifer M. Langworthy, The scope of chiropractic practice: A survey of chiropractors in the UK, Clinical Chiropractic, Volume 10, Issue 3, September 2007, Pages 147-155.]


And a survey which was carried out by the World Federation of Chiropractic (WFC) in 2004 gave the following percentages for chiropractors who thought that the phrases below described the chiropractic profession “perfectly” or “almost perfectly”:
“Management of vertebral subluxation and its impact on general health”
- 65% of chiropractors said that the general public should perceive chiropractic that way

“Management of vertebral subluxation”
- 56% of chiropractors said that the public should perceive chiropractic that way

http://www.wfc.org/website/images/wfc/docs/wfc_report_january2005_05.ppt#256,1,Consultation on Identity
(See page 30)

[WFC Consultation on Identity: Quantitative Research Findings, December 7th, 2004]


Bear in mind that those stats are made up from chiropractors who actually admitted to believing in the fictitious subluxation lesion.
 

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