Brexit: Now What? Part IV

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ceptimus said:
The EU is mainly complaining about insufficient duty/tariffs - the VAT is a secondary issue.

The EU is simply behaving in its usual protectionist racket mode - it is unable to compete with China in the production of cheap clothes so it applies a tariff to inflate the price of such clothes to nearer the price they can be made for in the EU.

If I buy a cheap Chinese T-shirt, I pay the manufacturers maybe $1, the shippers and handlers another $1, and then the EU wants me to also pay another $1 to them to be wasted by the EU bureaucracy.

Once we've left the EU we'll get the benefit of cheaper clothes while our European neighbours will continue to hand over their hard-earned cash to Brussels.

And you wonder why the majority voted to leave. :)
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You really think they would pass on any savings?
 
I keep hearing how the EU model is unfair/wasteful.

Please provide an example of a system that allows you to buy cheap imported goods without any burdens while also not eroding employment and earnings.

Otherwise I'm going to assume "wasteful bureaucracy" is just code for "I don't understand how social services are funded and other complex economic issues."

ETA: without any customs controls, we will all succumb to the work conditions of the lowest bidder.

This is where the tapatalk signature that annoys people used to be
 
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Delphic Oracle said:
I keep hearing how the EU model is unfair/wasteful.

Please provide an example of a system that allows you to buy cheap imported goods without any burdens while also not eroding employment and earnings.

Otherwise I'm going to assume "wasteful bureaucracy" is just code for "I don't understand how social services are funded and other complex economic issues."

ETA: without any customs controls, we will all succumb to the work conditions of the lowest bidder.

This is where the tapatalk signature that annoys people used to be
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Found this via reddit:

https://i.redd.it/hr50hdl67lk01.jpg

Apprently the UK gov sends this to all its tax-payers.
 
ceptimus said:
The EU is mainly complaining about insufficient duty/tariffs - the VAT is a secondary issue.
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No. The tariffs are the same for the whole EU and are most probably those fixed by the WTO agreements. The EU is no complaining about insufficient tariffs but about the lack of control measures at the borders by the HMRC.

ceptimus said:
Once we've left the EU we'll get the benefit of cheaper clothes while our European neighbours will continue to hand over their hard-earned cash to Brussels.

And you wonder why the majority voted to leave. :)
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And you will also benefit cheaper cars, shoes and of all kind of cheaper consumption goods, which will be manufactured abroad. So that the UK blue collars will loose their jobs and, at the very end, not even have enough money to buy cheap items imported with no customs duties...

Even Donald Trump is able to understand this would be idiotic...
 
I assume I am, but I don't remember getting one.

I could well have, but if they are not asking for more money, or giving me some back, I likely would have binned it without reading it. Like junk mail. I don't even open a lot of stuff that comes in the post.
 
fagin said:
I assume I am, but I don't remember getting one.

I could well have, but if they are not asking for more money, or giving me some back, I likely would have binned it without reading it. Like junk mail. I don't even open a lot of stuff that comes in the post.
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I remember getting them every year. I think the last one came about a month ago. Although they're only really memorable to me as they send me off into a rant about what a waste of money they are.
 
It's strange how the same people that oppose Trump's tariffs on steel think that the EU's tariffs on imported goods are a wonderful thing.
 
Dutch only, I'm afraid.

Unilever has chosen to concentrate it's headquarters (now still in the UK and in the Netherlands) in Rotterdam, Netherlands.
Apparantly the choice for Rotterdam was made because the protection against hostile takeovers is better there.
 
erwinl said:
Dutch only, I'm afraid.

Unilever has chosen to concentrate it's headquarters (now still in the UK and in the Netherlands) in Rotterdam, Netherlands.
Apparantly the choice for Rotterdam was made because the protection against hostile takeovers is better there.
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Well no shocks there then.

I had many a happy meeting at the Unilever offices in Weybridge. Every meeting room had a small freezer full of their individual serve frozen desserts (ice creams, choc ices, lollies and so on). It was a nice diversion in a hot and boring meeting.
 
erwinl said:
Dutch only, I'm afraid.

Unilever has chosen to concentrate it's headquarters (now still in the UK and in the Netherlands) in Rotterdam, Netherlands.
Apparantly the choice for Rotterdam was made because the protection against hostile takeovers is better there.
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In the article you reference, CFO Pitkethly denies it had anything to do with that protection. He also denies it had anything to do with Brexit. And most curious, the article doesn't say a thing about the effect of the Dutch abolishment of dividend tax (but as Unilever remains being traded in Amsterdam, London and New York, I don't see how that could make a difference).
 
The Don said:
In other news, David Davis wants a shorter transition
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Not quite how I would word it.
Davis is suggesting he would accept the EU's desire for a shorter transition.
The above makes it sound like it was his idea...and I'm not sure he has many of those, at least not ones that aren't completely barking.
:)
 
What has become of May's announced series of speeches in which she would lay out her vision of Brexit? Are they still to come or have they quietly been shelved?
 
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