The pro-brexit economist also suggested deregulating the economy, which I suspect means getting rid of all those pesky workers rights and environmental regulations.
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The pro-brexit economist also suggested deregulating the economy, which I suspect means getting rid of all those pesky workers rights and environmental regulations.
Henri McPhee
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The EU budget has never been properly audited. That's why we are being cheated. It's scandalous.
Klimax
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What the hell are you on???
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If you are expecting facts to sway Henri with facts you clearly haven't seen his contributions in the Jeffrey McDonald really did it thread.
IMO they are blithely incompetent. Davis, Fox and Boris have no idea how complicated the negotiations are, how broad the scope and how long the process will really take - and they aren't willing to learn.
They're not bothered by this because they believe that English (not British you note) exceptionalism means that the EU will cave in at the last minute and give us everything we want because "The English, the English, the English are best. I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest"
.If for some reason Johnny European doesn't cave in (despicable bunch) and we leave without a deal, that will be fine too because the rest of the world will give us great deals for the same reason.......
Going right back to the start of the Brexit discussions, I still can't see how the UK becomes more competitive outside the EU unless the workers and/or environment end up paying for it.
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I suppose the theory is that the Eu imposes a lot of unnecessary red tape that can be done away with. The reality of course is that it's probably not unnecessary and if you still want to trade in the EU you can't really do away with it either.
Becoming more competitive by doinn away with workers rights or environment protection is utterly pointless anyway. You can't compete with China or India on cost.
The reality is that people who complain about red tape don't know what is the purpose of the said red tape to begin with. I saw an interview with a farmer who complained about how he had to keep track of all live births of his calfs, that he had to tag and record them immediately and so on.
He didn't realize this is vital if you want to have a transparent and thus safe supply of food, beef and veal in this case.
And even if you could the best you can hope to get are sweatshops where people work their assess off for bare subsidience. This may be better than nothing if you have large swaths of unemployed and underemployed people and are looking for a way to get the ball rolling, but for a developed country like UK it's a phyrric victory in the best-case scenario.
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This time from the Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...negotiator-posts-series-goading-tweets-david/
Not exactly "goading"
This time from the Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...negotiator-posts-series-goading-tweets-david/
Not exactly "goading"
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Completely untrue.
ddt
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Hey, who cares if a little horse meat ends up being sold as beef. And who cares if you don't know if and when said horses have been treated with hormones or other drugs.
(Personally, I don't have a hang-up about eating horse meat, though I rarely do. Many, many Brits do, however. I do have a problem with unknown provenance of the meat.)
A bit of higher quality tagging would be in order though. It's a bit preposterous that animals have to be tagged with four tags, two per ear, so that you're sure that at least one tag remains in the slaughterhouse.
Seems that the government wants to limit the ECJ's role post-Brexit and some prominent Tories want its influence gone altogether and suggest:
Presumably whatever these ways are they sit outside the, already being paid for, ECJ. So we can add whatever these mechanisms will be to the lost of things to be paid for with the alleged £350m a week
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41012265
Presumably whatever these ways are they sit outside the, already being paid for, ECJ. So we can add whatever these mechanisms will be to the lost of things to be paid for with the alleged £350m a week
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41012265
Of course it's goading.
How dare that foreign chap point out how much they've achieved while Davis et al have been fiddling.
Klimax
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Seems that the government wants to limit the ECJ's role post-Brexit and some prominent Tories want its influence gone altogether and suggest:
Presumably whatever these ways are they sit outside the, already being paid for, ECJ. So we can add whatever these mechanisms will be to the lost of things to be paid for with the alleged £350m a week
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41012265
I doubt that extra money will be problem. There is very little chance of that happening... (Something about that nasty bad EU not agreeing to that)
I see you too have been lulled into misunderestimating David Davis and his team.
It's not incompetent fiddling and shilly-shallying, it's a perfectly honed and executed programme of "Constructive Ambiguity"
My bad.
I actually got angry at Davis at the joint press conference where he pointed out that "to coin a phrase" "the clock is ticking".
Everyone knows that, but Davis wasn't doing anything about it. Mr Bean would be more competent, and he doesn't actually speak.
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