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dudalb said:
RIP Democracy in the UK.
ANd there is nothing practical you guys can do about it.
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When things get really confused, it's time to hold a General Election.

I hope that works on a near future occasion to preserve democracy in the UK because England at least is stuck in probably the most complex and intractable constitutional crisis since 1640, and what that previous crisis led to was most unpleasant.
 
Craig B said:
When things get really confused, it's time to hold a General Election.

I hope that works on a near future occasion to preserve democracy in the UK because England at least is stuck in probably the most complex and intractable constitutional crisis since 1640, and what that previous crisis led to was most unpleasant.
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Something will have to give.
 
ponderingturtle said:
Certainly most are, I mean this is what Boris promised and they just voted pretty damn overwhelmingly for him to do this.
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No, they really didn't. He didn't say he was going to prorogue parliament at any point. He was still denying it 48 hours ago.

As much as I hate the Tories I really don't think a sizeable majority of them supports proroguing parliament as a tactic to get what you want.
 
Craig B said:
When things get really confused, it's time to hold a General Election.

I hope that works on a near future occasion to preserve democracy in the UK because England at least is stuck in probably the most complex and intractable constitutional crisis since 1640, and what that previous crisis led to was most unpleasant.
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It probably is Johnson hoping for a VoNC and then he can innocently go to his base and say that remoners have blocked him. And go for a majority.

I doubt he's ever suffered any form of adversity, so doesn't have any emotional reason to worry about the consequences of his actions - even to his party, or his ego.
 
GlennB said:
Because you'll get the information quicker and better expressed via google.
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But there is no need for me to know what a whip does in the UK. I'm speaking in my native language which is the primary language on this forum. I'm using the verb whipping of that native language. Whether that applies to the UK whip or not is irrelevant.
 
Craig B said:
When things get really confused, it's time to hold a General Election.

I hope that works on a near future occasion to preserve democracy in the UK because England at least is stuck in probably the most complex and intractable constitutional crisis since 1640, and what that previous crisis led to was most unpleasant.
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You just don't get it. The people in power are out to see there is no General Election again.
Difference is ..and I know I am going to get clobbered for this..in 1640 the Parlimentarians had the means to resist Charles The First. You guys don't.
 
BobTheCoward said:
But there is no need for me to know what a whip does in the UK. I'm speaking in my native language which is the primary language on this forum. I'm using the verb whipping of that native language. Whether that applies to the UK whip or not is irrelevant.
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Not if you're talking about votes in parliament, which you are, where the word 'whip' has a specialised meaning. Please educate yourself (easily done) and stop polluting this thread with gibberish.
 
We were told that the people who voted leave were not all racists and xenophobes. Some voted leave to give £350m a week to the NHS, others wanted to remain part of the free trade area but strike new trade deals with the rest of the world, then there was those that believed in the sovereignty of the UK parliament. Now those have all been debunked it seems safe to presume all those still supporting leave are racists and xenophobes.
 
GlennB said:
Not if you're talking about votes in parliament, which you are, where the word 'whip' has a specialised meaning. Please educate yourself (easily done) and stop polluting this thread with gibberish.
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It has a specialized meaning in language I do not speak. I'm not required to use Russian vocabulary when describing behavior of the Duma.
 
Stop fretting everyone.

Boris is leading us to the promised land, we can save plenty of money by doing away with parliament altogether and any shortfall will be made up by selling a box of pork pies to America.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
No, they really didn't. He didn't say he was going to prorogue parliament at any point. He was still denying it 48 hours ago.

As much as I hate the Tories I really don't think a sizeable majority of them supports proroguing parliament as a tactic to get what you want.
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In his campaign for prime minister he certainly said he wanted to. Was this a Trump thing were they thought they could take him seriously and not literally and the words coming out of his mouth on the campaign were not supposed to be taken seriously?
 
dudalb said:
You just don't get it. The people in power are out to see there is no General Election again.
Difference is ..and I know I am going to get clobbered for this..in 1640 the Parlimentarians had the means to resist Charles The First. You guys don't.
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I'm not sure. I think Johnson could be planning on getting Parliament to call a VoNC, and then Johnson would be "forced" into a General Election and gamble that he'd get an actual majority - maybe with a gentleman's* agreement with the Brexit party to attack the lexiteers in the Labour heartlands.












*ha, and I do mean man
 
GlennB said:
Not if you're talking about votes in parliament, which you are, where the word 'whip' has a specialised meaning. Please educate yourself (easily done) and stop polluting this thread with gibberish.
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I'll help: google Lindi St Clair and Former Chancellor Norman Lamont
 
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