Cont: Brexit: Now What? Magic 8 Ball's up

Status
Not open for further replies.
Olmstead said:
Hmm ... I assume the Leave camp provided a comprehensive list of EU trade interests that negatively affected UK trade along with some compelling commentary ... Right?

Honestly though, I think such a thing would make for an interesting read, but after a perfunctory search, the best I could find were some vague statements about India. Anyone know of something more detailed?
Click to expand...


I just posted it.

ETA: Although I seem to have missed “PRAWN COCKTAIL FLAVOUR CRISPS!!!!” and ”can I be PM?”
 
Last edited:
Olmstead said:
Hmm ... I assume the Leave camp provided a comprehensive list of EU trade interests that negatively affected UK trade along with some compelling commentary ... Right?

Honestly though, I think such a thing would make for an interesting read, but after a perfunctory search, the best I could find were some vague statements about India. Anyone know of something more detailed?
Click to expand...

Well, I like your bleak sense of humour.

Ceptimus can point out how we'll be fine trading with the Faroe Islands and the Palestinian Authority
 
Arcade22 said:
If the UK survived Hitler it will survive Brexit...!
Click to expand...

As one of my facebook friends shared, "the atmosphere in the air raid shelter might have been a bit more awkward if half the people had voted for the bombs"
 
jimbob said:
Well, I like your bleak sense of humour.

Ceptimus can point out how we'll be fine trading with the Faroe Islands and the Palestinian Authority
Click to expand...

Heh.

The thing is, I assume it's possible to imagine a world in which the UK is slightly better off on its own than inside the EU ... a few decades down the line ... if everything falls into place perfectly.

But that's not the time frame they seem to be giving. For Leavers its anywhere from immediately to at most a few years. It beggars belief. It would imply that the EU was so insidious that leaving it offsets all the problems associated with such a drastic step.
 
Arcade22 said:
If the UK survived Hitler it will survive Brexit...!
Click to expand...
Let's see, about UK£99 billion in costs and UK£28 billion in debt.
2,000,000 houses destroyed, sixty thousand dead and eighty seven thousand seriously injured (and that's just the Blitz).

Sounds about right...
 
Olmstead said:
Heh.

The thing is, I assume it's possible to imagine a world in which the UK is slightly better off on its own than inside the EU ... a few decades down the line ... if everything falls into place perfectly.

But that's not the time frame they seem to be giving. For Leavers its anywhere from immediately to at most a few years. It beggars belief. It would imply that the EU was so insidious that leaving it offsets all the problems associated with such a drastic step.
Click to expand...
And there is the problem. The leavers assume that trade deals will instantaneously happen. Because Great Britain.

What they fail to notice is that said "Great Britain" has a track record of reneging on deals already made, for centuries. Thus, other countries are closely observing the brexit process and making judgements as to the trustworthiness of the UK. And adjusting their strategy accordingly.

The UK will be going cap in hand to everyone post brexit simply because they have demonstrated that any commitment can be tossed at will or convenience. Thus that will be built into any trade negotiation. We know for a fact at this point that the UK will renege on anything at a whim. Nobody trusts the UK anymore. Their word is not good. Even the "commonwealth" knows that. India actively hates the brits, Canada prefers to deal with the EU having concluded a trade deal. What has the UK to offer? Subservience to the highest bidder? High cost low productivity? Corporates fleeing in droves? Uncertaintity about the future? This is not an attractive look for the UK.

So far, Bojo seems to think he can put it up to the EU to come back to the table. Nope.

The negotiating teams did their job and are now disbanded. So are the UK equivalents.

France is so browned that they are likely to heave the migrants to the UK. Their only job is to get them the hell out. Suits them to foist that on the UK. Why should france continue to protect the UK borders? It is not their problem anymore, it is the UKs problem.

Well, some might claim, It is not the UK's problem, it is all of our problems, the say.

Wrong. You chose to be not us at all. That makes it your problem. The other 27 get to watch you flail. And laugh.
 
jimbob said:
As one of my facebook friends shared, "the atmosphere in the air raid shelter might have been a bit more awkward if half the people had voted for the bombs"
Click to expand...

Yebbut we survived. Didn't exactly thrive but we survived and it only destroyed about half the country's total wealth and only took a few decades to clear up afterwards.

So, you know, all those doom-sayers need to remember that we survived when we stood alone. All alone in the world, with nobody to depend upon, except the world's biggest empire and the world's biggest navy. So you just have to believe and it'll all be fine.
 
abaddon said:
Sure, but remove the "8" and you are left with a title of "Magic Ball's up" which seems far more accurate, no?

ETA: Why does this warrant explanation?
Click to expand...

Sorry, my joke detector was under maintenance and I might have missed phrase itself too. Quick question: Is intended meaning "2.Finished, to an end" or maybe "13.(Britain, academia) Towards Cambridge or Oxford." (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/up)?
 
It was the 8th continuation thread.
Given the brexit impass it is seemed that we must be getting near the turn of the magic 8 ball to decide, 'the magic 8 ball's up next' and the whole thing is a very special (magic) 'balls up'. A play on words. Perhaps too clever for my own good.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Yebbut we survived. Didn't exactly thrive but we survived and it only destroyed about half the country's total wealth and only took a few decades to clear up afterwards.

So, you know, all those doom-sayers need to remember that we survived when we stood alone. All alone in the world, with nobody to depend upon, except the world's biggest empire and the world's biggest navy. So you just have to believe and it'll all be fine.
Click to expand...
Bring back hanging, flogging, the thruppenny bit, National Service and the National Loaf....
That'll teach 'em.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Back
Top Bottom