Cont: Brexit: Now What? 9 Below Zero

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Tolls said:
Well, there goes a chunk of the economy here in Herefordshire.
And the tossers will still give that arse Bill Wiggin one of the largest majorities in the country...
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Here in Henley you could stick a blue rossette on a turnip and it would win. The country would have been better off if we had since Heseltine left.
 
The Don said:
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you :rolleyes:



Yes, somehow the farmers will find a way to blame the EU and/or the Labour party and not Brexiteers and the Tory party.
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I think more likely they will be moving their investment portfolios into big USA
agricultural companies.
 
Mongrel said:
I as taught metric but real life used imperial, so I was mostly confused. I prefer metric though as it's less confusing and, IMO, the lauded "You can divide by lots of different numbers" is mostly unnecassary as rounding off to the nearest mm, 5g or 5ml is accurate enough for almost all everyday waork.
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Growing up in the U.S. in the mid-20th century I was raised, even immersed in the imperial units (more precisely "U.S. customary units") system. We were, of course, made aware of the metric system and to a large degree it was used in sundry science courses (I was exposed to more of that perhaps, since I always pursued a fascination with science), but everyday life was all imperial.

Then I got into construction. I began working as a reinforcing steel ironworker (a "rodbuster" in common parlance). Rebar is labelled in increments based on the diameter in eights of an inch. No problem. Until a company I worked for picked up some projects in the Caribbean. This is when I not only had to use drawings and do layout using metric, but also learned about metric rebar. Much bigger hill to climb. Not merely a change in the labeling system, but a change in the actual diameter of the bars. This was more disturbing. The differences were minor, but when you have worked with and become familiar with handling a product over years they were noticeable. The bars felt different. I wasn't really there long enough to get used to it.

Later in my career I did a lot of layout work and eventually drifted into what is known in the trade as a "field engineer" (no jokes please). This is the guy you see standing behind various instruments on tripods. It is almost all measuring. From stake out to layout to marking and measuring elevations.

Construction site documents (as opposed to architectural, engineering, and shop drawings) tend to use whatever system the site architects and engineers prefer, and decimal feet is quite common. Common enough that over time I didn't need to convert the decimal part of the foot in my head. I just worked in it and inches simultaneously. Kind of like being fluent in two languages.

Angular measurement could be DMS, decimal degrees, or even, very rarely, radians.

It's all what you are exposed to and have time to get used to.

Frankly I wish that the U.S. would push the use of metric more adamantly. It has at least technically been the system accepted as the standard for the U.S. since 1893 and again in 1959. But we are a stubborn and recalcitrant people.

I wanna stick with Fahrenheit, though. It just feels more appropriate. So sue me.

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jimbob said:
Yup. Or anyone who has been in any hardware store over the last 30 years.
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Mongrel said:
I as taught metric but real life used imperial, so I was mostly confused. I prefer metric though as it's less confusing and, IMO, the lauded "You can divide by lots of different numbers" is mostly unnecassary as rounding off to the nearest mm, 5g or 5ml is accurate enough for almost all everyday waork.
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Exactly

catsmate said:
The over-sixties perhaps. The rest of us use the Metric system, or rather the SI.
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My dad would count as that, but doesn't have an issue with metric, even if he prefers imperial. After all he's been to DIY shops where most lengths are in milimetres.


catsmate said:
It appeals to the Little Englanders.
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And we have a winner
 
Brexiters aren’t going to get their egg & chips in Benidorm this year, Spain and greece aren't allowing in UK tourists.
But how is Spain allowed to prevent UK citizens from entering seeing as the UK is still an EU member?

It's almost as if they had control over their borders!
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Brexiters aren’t going to get their egg & chips in Benidorm this year, Spain and greece aren't allowing in UK tourists.
But how is Spain allowed to prevent UK citizens from entering seeing as the UK is still an EU member?

It's almost as if they had control over their borders!
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Your point would have stood if we were*... but, no we're not members any more, that bridge is burnt. We're non members in a transition period waiting for Boris to crash the negotiations so we can enter next year as America's prison bitch.


*Just as we had loads of powers to control immigration that we never used.
 
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Maybe we need to go back to the days of Empire and set off to discover some new countries. Forget all the old ones.
 
Nigel Farage hints he will start a new party if Boris Johnson ‘goes soft’ on Brexit

Brexiteer Farage said he was conflicted about calling for Dominic Cummings to leave his post before Brexit is delivered - because he believed it would lead to the prime minister taking a softer approach.

He said: “I am terribly conflicted over this. We need Cummings to be there for the next few weeks, those of us that want Brexit. Because if he suddenly disappeared maybe Boris would go soft. We could finish up extending the transition period.”
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Farage also used the one-year anniversary of the European elections to claim that he is wiling to take on Johnson again if he does accept an extension or takes a softer approach on Brexit.

He tweeted: “One year ago today The Brexit Party stunned the establishment and easily won the European elections.

“Without us Mrs. May would have limped on and there would have been no Brexit on 31st January. Let us hope that Boris frees us from transition.

“Otherwise we will do it again.”
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We might need to rebrand as The Reform Party. Definitely our appetite is for political reform. This country wants political reform. It’s sick of the whole bloody system. Sick the whole lot.
We talk about Washington as the swamp and we are beginning to talk about Westminster in the same way.
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gypsyjackson said:
Soon we’ll get trade deals by sailing to countries. Good thing we have already sorted Switzerland.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1289459/brexit-news-international-trade-deal
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A heavy seasoning of reassurance that it's not about class or billionaires slurping up public treasury monies atop a pile of examples of precisely that very thing happening.

But my favorite bit:
Today, it sits in a Scottish harbour, hoards of tourists swarming over decks and state rooms once occupied by kings, queens, princes, tycoons and stars.

But not so long ago it was the very embodiment of the nation, a dazzling reminder that despite the slow collapse of empire our Queen ruled one third of the planet and other world powers ignored Britain at their peril.
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Filthy rabble now taint the place of better sorts.

And that jingoistic nostalgia.
 
One of the excuses for the Royal Yacht was it's supposed 'dual role' as a hospital ship in case of a war, it was fitted out with surgical suite etc.
This was shown to be a lie when the Navy sailed south to the Falklands, Britannia never went, a passenger ship was chartered and converted to a hospital ship.
 
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