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Captain_Swoop said:
Net migration to the UK from countries outside the European Union has risen to its highest level for 45 years, the Office for National Statistics says.

Figures show an estimated 282,000 more non-EU citizens came to the UK than left in 2019, the highest since the information was first gathered in 1975.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52752656

So much for leaving the EU reducing immigration.
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This was always going to be the irony of "Brexit for Racists", we'll be exchanging those most culturally and superficially similar to ourselves for the very people they really object to. You can only assume they thought Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis would flood here?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Net migration to the UK from countries outside the European Union has risen to its highest level for 45 years, the Office for National Statistics says.

Figures show an estimated 282,000 more non-EU citizens came to the UK than left in 2019, the highest since the information was first gathered in 1975.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52752656

So much for leaving the EU reducing immigration.
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Isn't that expected. If it's clear the UK is going to restrict immigration then those who might want to come to the UK some time in the future will stop dithering and make the move while it's still possible.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Priti Patel has announced that if you earn under £25,600 you're basically unskilled, a second class citizen and of no value to society.
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My daughter doesn't earn that much. She has a degree in biomedical sciences and works for the NHS.

She is part of the overworked team checking samples for covid 19.

The gap between the real world and what some politicians believe it to be is astounding.
 
Greebo said:
Very late reply to thisMy daughter doesn't earn that much. She has a degree in biomedical sciences and works for the NHS.

She is part of the overworked team checking samples for covid 19.

The gap between the real world and what some politicians believe it to be is astounding.
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shuttlt said:
This view of the world seems to be purely left wing.

If you are only commanding £25,600, society has already passed what ever judgement there may be to pass. By definition the role is not one with a labour shortage and a high demand for the work to be performed. If you are going to have any sort of needs based immigration model, surely people with skills that are not in demand are the people not to bring in. There is no moral judgement about your worth as a person, or your skill level or anything else.
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:rolleyes:
 
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Pixel42 said:
Last time I checked there were tens of thousands of vacancies for care workers in the UK. Mostly minimum wage jobs.
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But under capitalism I thought hard to fill jobs attracted more money? Why don't care workers earn more than MPs, every election theres multiple candudates for every position there? Anyone would think reality doesn't match the theory but that can't be right...:confused:
 
P.J. Denyer said:
But under capitalism I thought hard to fill jobs attracted more money? Why don't care workers earn more than MPs, every election theres multiple candudates for every position there? Anyone would think reality doesn't match the theory but that can't be right...:confused:
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Your understanding of capitalism must be shallow indeed.

It's hard to fill those jobs because it doesn't pay a lot, because the system can't support paying care workers a lot. It would be easy to fill the jobs if the pay was high, but there's not enough money available to make that happen. The fact that it's a low skill job also helps keep wages down.
 
Darat said:
Only for old people - apart from miles kids and anyone under the age of what now 45 thinks in terms of metric units. And only a statistical insignificant number of those would be able to tell you how many yards are in a mile.

And being a transitional I can use yards or metres but metres is always my prefered unit.
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Yup. Or anyone who has been in any hardware store over the last 30 years.
 
jimbob said:
Yup. Or anyone who has been in any hardware store over the last 30 years.
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I as taught metric but real life used imperial, so I was mostly confused. I prefer metric though as it's less confusing and, IMO, the lauded "You can divide by lots of different numbers" is mostly unnecassary as rounding off to the nearest mm, 5g or 5ml is accurate enough for almost all everyday waork.
 
As an aside to the imperial vs metric discussion I'd like to mention the so-called "descriptive" chess notation system which was in use in English speaking countries for far too long. It was still in use in in the eighties, when it was finally abandoned for the much more sensible algebraic notation which was of course invented by the germans a hundred years before the brits finally relented..

Example:

Kkt-KB3 (descriptive notation)
Nf3 (algebraic)
 
Well, there goes a chunk of the economy here in Herefordshire.
And the tossers will still give that arse Bill Wiggin one of the largest majorities in the country...
 
Vixen said:
Jacob Rees-Mogg mentioned standing six feet apart on PMQs. Now we all understand what six feet is without a second thought.
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The over-sixties perhaps. The rest of us use the Metric system, or rather the SI.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
In among all the usual stupidity about sinking boats with asylum seekers trying to cross the channel I am starting to see a lot of twitter threads criticising the RNLI for rescuing asylum seekers from boats.

Typical comments this morning

"The RNLI should be disbanded as they're acting like a taxi service for illegal immigrants"

"The RNLI are aiding and abetting criminals who are trying to illegally enter our country"

"RNLI should be prosecuted for aiding and abetting criminals who are illegally entering our country".

"The RNLI are a registered charity I would urge people not to donate anymore."

"The RNLI traitors are still escorting dinghies and boats full of illegal immigrants into our country"

"RNLI Treason! Boycott the RNLI, govt should act"
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And yet if I organised the rounding up of such people and had them dropped into the Atlantic I'd be the bad person...
 
The Don said:
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you :rolleyes:



Yes, somehow the farmers will find a way to blame the EU and/or the Labour party and not Brexiteers and the Tory party.
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Actually, I don't think it matters.

Lots of MPs who made noise about this being a bad idea before the election voted cheerfully for it now.

People have short memories. They'll have forgotten about it the next time Boris has to hide in a fridge.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
No, I'm not. there may be a similar footnote there, but I am definitely remembering the section in "Green & Pleasant Land" which I read some time before "Good Omens" was written.
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It does sound like something Marcus Rowland would write and he contributed to GAPL/
 
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