Cont: Brexit: Now What? 9 Below Zero

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Lothian said:
I beg to differ. As interviews make clear Boris has negotiated a post brexit deal with no clue as to what the borders, customs, regulations, product standards he has negotiated are :)
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He hasn’t negotiated a trade deal yet. ;)

Nor is he likely to because he’ll be to busy complain that the EU won’t let him import cheap chicken form the US pay UK workers $4USD an hour to process it and sell the finished product to the EU.
 
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Talking of minted, I note that the government is concentrating on the important aspects of Brexit such as the commemorative coin.

Also, does anyone else think that having a VE bank holiday this year in place of the usual international workers' day one is more example of Little Englander tub-thumping ?
 
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jimbob said:
https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/20...rything-you-need-to-know-about-johnson-s-trad

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TLDR: It's really not looking pretty and Johnson is going to end up tarnished with it - either pushing ahead with the disaster, which he will own, or backing down on key parts.
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Never underestimate the power and reach of the right wing propaganda machine. Negative outcomes will either be ignored and/or blamed on a combination of horrible foreigners, Remoaner fifth-columnists or factors which couldn't possibly have been anticipated ahead of time.
 
The Don said:
Never underestimate the power and reach of the right wing propaganda machine. Negative outcomes will either be ignored and/or blamed on a combination of horrible foreigners, Remoaner fifth-columnists or factors which couldn't possibly have been anticipated ahead of time.
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You are forgetting their other favourite, lose an election right before the economy tanks and blame Labour when it does.
 
Quite a lot more Brexit news over the weekend.

In order to mitigate the worst effects of removing free movement, the government is proposing fast track visas for scientists:

A fast-track UK visa for scientists, mathematicians and researchers will be launched next month, the prime minister has said.

The Global Talent visa will be open from 20 February to those who work in a qualifying field and have been endorsed by a recognised UK body.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51258068

The UK is aiming for a "zero tariff, zero quota Brexit". This is perfectly possible if the UK accepts any and all EU rules - a rapid and complete U-turn from last week's "We'll deviate from EU rules ASAP" posturing.

The government is aiming to secure a "zero tariff, zero quota" free trade deal with the EU, Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay has said.

He told the BBC's Andrew Marr the UK would not diverge from current EU trade regulations "for the sake of it".
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51255528

Meanwhile Leo Varadkar is applying a dose of reality:

Leo Varadkar compared the two sides to football teams, suggesting the EU would have the "stronger team" due to its larger population and market.

He also suggested that Britain misjudged the first phase of Brexit.

It comes as the Taoiseach is due to meet the EU's chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, in Dublin.

In an interview with BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg, days before Britain is due to leave the EU, Mr Varadkar also warned against any attempt by the UK to get a "piecemeal" deal with the EU.

"When I hear people talk about piecemeal, it sounds a bit like cake and eat," he said.

"That isn't something that will fly in Europe."
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51260282
 
Lothian said:
A zero tariff, zero quota agreement is a customs union but with full custom's paperwork and checks. So much cheaper to have a customs union.
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And it would require those goods and services to comply with EU rules and regulations but with no influence on those rules - so much for the UK not being a "rule taker".

IMO this is just yet another example of Brexiteers having no clue about the realities of international trade and running smack-back into the brick wall of reality.
 
The Don said:
And it would require those goods and services to comply with EU rules and regulations but with no influence on those rules - so much for the UK not being a "rule taker".

IMO this is just yet another example of Brexiteers having no clue about the realities of international trade and running smack-back into the brick wall of reality.
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Part of which might be realising they've been had by a scheming liar and are stuck with him for the best part of 5 years?
 
Sad news, the "bong campaign" fundraiser failed to meet its £500k target.

Campaigners have officially ended a crowdfunding appeal which was raising money to make Big Ben's bell ring to mark Brexit day.

The StandUp4Brexit group says the £272,000 raised will instead go to veterans' charity Help for Heroes.

They say efforts to persuade House of Commons authorities to accept the donation have been "unsuccessful".
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51271287

The good news is that the money will go to charity instead. Is that allowed ?
 
The Don said:
Sad news, the "bong campaign" fundraiser failed to meet its £500k target.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51271287

The good news is that the money will go to charity instead. Is that allowed ?
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Not sure of UK regulations, but that sounds similar to how such entities in the states liquidate and wind down. Organizations that take in "contributions" have specific ways they can spend or discharge that cash. Donations (different than contributions) made to charitable organizations are one of the least restricted and limited options they have.
 
Delphic Oracle said:
Not sure of UK regulations, but that sounds similar to how such entities in the states liquidate and wind down. Organizations that take in "contributions" have specific ways they can spend or discharge that cash. Donations (different than contributions) made to charitable organizations are one of the least restricted and limited options they have.
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That's an interesting issue. Seems to me the funds would need to be ring-fenced. There'll need to be a safeguard against misappropriation. In addition, if it now becomes a charitable donation rather than for a specific aim, then there is gift aid to be added on if you can, which'd mean getting a GA declaration from all those who donated. It'll need to give donors the option of a refund of their money.
 
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Vixen said:
That's an interesting issue. Seems to me the funds would need to be ring-fenced. There'll need to be a safeguard against misappropriation. In addition, if it now becomes a charitable donation rather than for a specific aim, then there is gift aid to be added on if you can, which'd mean getting a GA declaration from all those who donated. It'll need to give donors the option of a refund of their money.
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In our parlance only organizations with a certain kind of tax designation can be recipients of such donations.

Also, short of proving one was defrauded into making the contribution to the political advocacy organization, once the contribution is made, the person who made it doesn't have any further say in what is done with that money. Just like any other transaction.
 
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