Breaking: Trump's "Voter fraud" expert registered in 3 states

[ChristianProgressive]

Source: AP

https://apnews.com/80497cfb5f054c9b...n=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

This on top of the already disclosed fact that multiple staffers, including Steve Bannon (the Nazi) and Goldman-Sachs sleeze Steven Mnuchin as well as Trump's son-in-law and his younger daughter Tiffany are all multiple-registered.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/...paign-chief-registered-to-vote-in-two-states/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...6d214a-e416-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_story.html

Will the AG investigate THIS fraud? Nope. She just got fired.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/trump-immigration-ban-memo.html?_r=0

Is there no one in the government who will remove these criminal usurpers?

 

[sts60]

FWIW, voter-fraud-criminal (according to Trump's standards) Mnuchin also perjured himself in hearings about his bank's foreclosure practices. Par for the course for Trump's wretched mob of halfwits, Klansmen, crackpots, thieves, and traitors.

ETA: but to stay on topic, yeah, that bit about his "expert" is hilarious.

 

[fuelair]

We warned the idiots who voted for him. Too stupid to follow it and stupid still they remain!!!!!!

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Is it illegal to be registered to vote in more than one state?
Chris B.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Is it illegal to be registered to vote in more than one state?
Chris B.

Trump seems to think so.

 

[pgwenthold]

The whole point is that what he did is not voter fraud. He was an eligible voter, and only voted once.

Of course, the problem is that what he did is the thing that Trump has bitched about.

I don't have a problem with it. But The Donald should. We shall see.

 

[Meadmaker]

Is it illegal to be registered to vote in more than one state?
Chris B.

I certainly hope not. I have occasionally moved from one state to another, and I've never sent my old state a notification to "unregister" me. I'm pretty confident that there were periods in my life where I have been registered in more than one state.

The only crime would be voting someplace where you are not eligible to vote. Obviously, voting in two places would mean you aren't eligible in at least one of them. Also, I have read of some people who move, and establish legal residence in a new state, but continue to be registered, and to vote, in their state of origin. That's illegal.

It's highly unlikely that any of these people did anything even technically illegal with regard to their voter registrations, and it would be incredibly unlikely if any of these people did anything for which anyone would ever be prosecuted.


It does, however, shine a light on the idea that dual registrations are somehow indicative of voter fraud. They aren't. They are indicative of a mobile society.

 

[varwoche]

Is it illegal to be registered to vote in more than one state?
Chris B.

No, it's a routine consequence of people moving. And when we hear about dead people who are registered, it's a routine consequence of people dying.

However these mundane realities somehow fail to get through to conspiracy theorists like Trump.

 

[pgwenthold]

I certainly hope not. I have occasionally moved from one state to another, and I've never sent my old state a notification to "unregister" me. I'm pretty confident that there were periods in my life where I have been registered in more than one state.

The only crime would be voting someplace where you are not eligible to vote. Obviously, voting in two places would mean you aren't eligible in at least one of them. Also, I have read of some people who move, and establish legal residence in a new state, but continue to be registered, and to vote, in their state of origin. That's illegal.

It's highly unlikely that any of these people did anything even technically illegal with regard to their voter registrations, and it would be incredibly unlikely if any of these people did anything for which anyone would ever be prosecuted.


It does, however, shine a light on the idea that dual registrations are somehow indicative of voter fraud. They aren't. They are indicative of a mobile society.

I have never heard of the concept of "cancelling" your voter registration in your old place when you move. I wouldn't have the first clue about how to do it.

I've have moved from state to state and county to county. In all instances, I have just re-registered to vote. No one ever asked me if I was registered to vote any where else or whether I have cancelled that registration.

As far as I know, I am registered to vote at least twice in my current state, as I was registered, moved to a different county and registered there, and then moved back and registered here again.

 

[Darat]

Can't believe the number of members who are boasting about their fraudulent voting. Drain the swamp! Make America Great Again! Sad.

 

[Shalamar]

Can't believe the number of members who are boasting about their fraudulent voting. Drain the swamp! Make America Great Again! Sad.

It's only bad when Democrats/libs/leftists/PeopleIDon'tLike do it.

 

[psionl0]

I have occasionally moved from one state to another, and I've never sent my old state a notification to "unregister" me. I'm pretty confident that there were periods in my life where I have been registered in more than one state.

Interesting. You must have a confusing time when an electoral redistribution places you in a different electorate.

Australians are on an "electoral roll" which records your current address. From there, your electorate and state where you vote are determined. When you change address (and advise the electoral commission) your new electorate is automatically determined.

Some states used to have separate electoral rolls but AFAIK all states now use the same electoral roll as the federal roll.

 

[Meadmaker]

Interesting. You must have a confusing time when an electoral redistribution places you in a different electorate.

Australians are on an "electoral roll" which records your current address. From there, your electorate and state where you vote are determined. When you change address (and advise the electoral commission) your new electorate is automatically determined.

Some states used to have separate electoral rolls but AFAIK all states now use the same electoral roll as the federal roll.

In the US there is no federal roll. Some states don't have state rolls. It's primarily up to counties.

Most states use a precinct system. The county election officials divide the county into precincts. Electoral boundaries that don't follow "natural" political lines are done by selecting which precincts are in which electoral area. i.e. voting for mayor of a city follows the city boundary, but congressional boundaries go all over the place and shift every ten years, and sometimes more frequently. Generally, electoral boundaries try to follow civic boundaries, so that all the people in one city vote in the same elections, but that isn't possible sometimes, especially for large cities. At other times, there are political reasons why those officials might want to stick some precincts together in a rather unnatural way. See: Gerrymandering.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

I certainly hope not. I have occasionally moved from one state to another, and I've never sent my old state a notification to "unregister" me. I'm pretty confident that there were periods in my life where I have been registered in more than one state.

The only crime would be voting someplace where you are not eligible to vote. Obviously, voting in two places would mean you aren't eligible in at least one of them. Also, I have read of some people who move, and establish legal residence in a new state, but continue to be registered, and to vote, in their state of origin. That's illegal.

It's highly unlikely that any of these people did anything even technically illegal with regard to their voter registrations, and it would be incredibly unlikely if any of these people did anything for which anyone would ever be prosecuted.


It does, however, shine a light on the idea that dual registrations are somehow indicative of voter fraud. They aren't. They are indicative of a mobile society.

Being honest and only voting in one district is certainly the proper thing to do. I also am registered to vote in 3 different states as I own homes in those states. But like you, I only vote once in one precinct only.

It does open the door to fraud for those that are less than honest though. I understand that there are a high number of absentee ballots used each election cycle.

I believe anything we can do to ensure a system with no chance of gaming it would be best for the Country. A National voter ID would be a good thing, providing the holder of that ID card the opportunity to vote once and only once in any district in the US.

Chris B.

 

[bruto]

It's been a very long time, and I would not be at all surprised if laws have changed, but as I recall when I registered to vote in Vermont I did have to present evidence that I had been removed from the rolls in Connecticut. Then again, I'm not entirely sure I had to present it, though I did. I am at least pretty sure I had to swear I voted nowhere else, as well as taking the unique Vermont "Freeman's Oath."

I am a little surprised that the issue comes up at all, but perhaps that depends on the states involved, and the intimacy of the precinct. I twice left Connecticut after voting there, and both times the town registrars struck me from the rolls without my input. But I have always lived in small towns too. I'm like Almanzo Wilder: when the population gets up over a thousand or so I get nervous!

Not that it really matters. As others have said, there's unlikely to be anything amiss in failure to erase old voter registrations, except that it points to a general tendency to be sloppy and hypocritical while saying stupid things, none of which should come as a surprise to anyone.

 

[bonzombiekitty]

It's been a very long time, and I would not be at all surprised if laws have changed, but as I recall when I registered to vote in Vermont I did have to present evidence that I had been removed from the rolls in Connecticut.

I used to live in CT and I know I was on the registration list there for a while after I had registered in PA. I guess I eventually just fell off the list since I haven't voted there in 15 years. Out of curiosity I looked to see how one goes about removing oneself from the voter registration in CT.... I couldn't find anything. All I could find was that you fall off the list after not voting for X number of years.

 

[Meadmaker]

Being honest and only voting in one district is certainly the proper thing to do. I also am registered to vote in 3 different states as I own homes in those states. But like you, I only vote once in one precinct only.

I don't know how to tell you this, but what you are doing might be illegal.

It sounds like you are saying that because you own and perhaps sometimes occupy houses (note the switch in language, it's deliberate) in three states, it's ok to be registered to vote in three states. And then....what? You get to decide on election day where you vote?

No. Merely having a residence that you sometimes occupy in a state does not make you eligible to vote in that state. If the records from two of those states are old, obsolete, records that simply haven't been purged from the rolls, then it's ok. However, you can't maintain eligibility to vote in multiple locations.

In my case, I moved away from one place, and registered in the new place. The old registration was still around only because I had no way to remove it, and they didn't bother. It sounds like you actually intend to maintain three different registrations, because you live part-time in multiple states. It doesn't work like that. Your legal residence is one, and only one, of those three.

The exact process for changing registration and when things expire and the paperwork involved undoubtedly varies from one state to the next, but I'm confident the principle is constant across the US. You have one legal residence where you are eligible to vote. You can't vote more than once, and you can't represent yourself as eligible to vote in more than one place.

 

[fuelair]

Trump seems to think so.

Yes.

 

[Estellea]

However, you can't maintain eligibility to vote in multiple locations.

Yes you can. For instance Tiffany Trump is a resident of New York but attends university in PA. She's a valid voter in both states but can only legally vote in one at a time.

Este

 

[Aepervius]

Source: AP

https://apnews.com/80497cfb5f054c9b...n=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

This on top of the already disclosed fact that multiple staffers, including Steve Bannon (the Nazi) and Goldman-Sachs sleeze Steven Mnuchin as well as Trump's son-in-law and his younger daughter Tiffany are all multiple-registered.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/...paign-chief-registered-to-vote-in-two-states/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...6d214a-e416-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_story.html

Will the AG investigate THIS fraud? Nope. She just got fired.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/trump-immigration-ban-memo.html?_r=0

Is there no one in the government who will remove these criminal usurpers?

That's nothing , I am even registered in two countries .

Frankly I am not surprised, as when you move you register yourself in the new area, and only when you have a centralized voter registry (like we have in France) you ensure that people only vote once.

But is there widespread people abusing that ? I doubt it, there is no indication that this is a problem.