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Breaking news: Ahmadinejad still nuts!!

Mycroft

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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3193425,00.html

Iran: Europe wanted to complete Holocaust

Hard-line Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who said Nazis’ attempt to eradicate Jews in Holocaust was a ‘myth,’ now charges that European countries sought to complete genocide by establishing Israel, a Jewish state in the midst of Muslim countries.

...snip...

“Don’t you think that continuation of genocide by expelling Jews from Europe was one of their (the Europeans’) aims in creating a regime of occupiers of Al-Quds (Jerusalem)?” the official Islamic Republic News agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.

“Isn’t that an important question?”

So the establishmnet of Israel was a continuation of something that didn't happen.
 
playing for the home team

1. Zep, you got your apology. It sucks, but you got it.

2. Iran's President is addressing the home crowd -- he offered his comments in the local press.
 
Webby,

1) I haven't seen it - I'll look now, but care to point it out in case I miss it?

2) Thought so. Playing up to the home crowd seems to give one certain license to...umm...exaggerate and hyperbolise. And Arabic speeches do tend to do that. Bet he knows that if he said it to anyone in an international context as a direct translated comment that it would be a VERY BAD move. Unless he's a REAL doodyhead... Well, he is, really, for thinking he can talk like this at home and NOT be heard elsewhere! ;)
 
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Actually, his "historical" views--apart from the holocaust denial part--are not that far away than those of some members of this forum. israel as a european colonialist project? israel created because of the holocaust? zionism is racist / fascist / imperialistic? We sure heard those ones before on this forum.

To those of you--you know who you are--who accept all this: when you're in essential agreement with the leader of the world's greatest terrorist state, perhaps it's time to rethink your position.
 
when you're in essential agreement with the leader of the world's greatest terrorist state, perhaps it's time to rethink your position.
Iran is up there in terrorism but I think the world's greatest terrorist state is Syria...who is currently in deep doo doo.

Jan. 3, 2006 1:15

The UN commission's request to question the Syrian president himself about the murder of former Lebanese premier Rafik Hariri leaves no room for doubt: The noose is tightening around Bashar Assad.

First, he struck an alliance with Saddam Hussein, thus not only betraying his father's legacy, but also defying international gravity. Then, he threw his weight around in Lebanon, failing to understand that the days when Damascus could murder prominent figures like president-elect Bashir Jemayel with impunity had long gone. While at it, he managed to antagonize France, his most natural, veteran and indispensable Western ally.

And now, deposed vice president Abdul-Halim Khaddam's testimony indicates that Bashar Assad antagonized not only much of the Middle East, Europe and America, but even his father's immediate circle.

If Monday's request actually leads them to Assad's palace, the UN's investigators may wonder whether the soft-spoken, weak-chinned man they will face is actually the leader of the clan whose mixture of patronage, intrigue and bloodshed has made many compare it with the Corleone family, the cinematic underworld legend.

The Hariri murder investigators should therefore be advised that what they will see is how the Corleone saga would have unfolded had the Godfather been succeeded neither by Sonny nor by Michael, but by Fredo, the weak son who lacked the eldest one's ferocity and the youngest's wisdom.
If only the world could once and for all end the perverse totalitarian Assad dynasty and pressure Iran to dump fundamentalist wackos like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad from their government the middle east would be two steps closer to peace.
 
Iran's president criticises detente foreign policy

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Tuesday told lawmakers the foreign policy of detente adopted by his two predecessors had achieved little and reduced Iran's standing in the Islamic world, a lawmaker said.

Since taking office in August Ahmadinejad has stiffened Iran's foreign policy stance, replacing dozens of pro-reform diplomats, pushing ahead with atomic work frowned on by the West and launching a series of searing verbal attacks against Israel.

In a closed-door meeting with parliament's Foreign Policy and National Security Committee, Ahmadinejad said that under former presidents Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani and Mohammad Khatami Iran had tried to appease Europe.

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060103/3/2dcjq.html

Great. Not only is he building nukes, he's publicly stating that trying to reduce tensions is a bad idea. No worries here, I'm sure someone will explain why that's not a concern.
 
Stage 1...make Israel the scapegoat for all bad things happening in the Middle East...

Stage 2...censor and control the free press...

Tue Jan 3, 10:07 PM ET

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran closed a daily newspaper and a magazine, one of the publications said Tuesday, in a stiffening crackdown on the press. Iran's hard-line judiciary has closed down more than 100 pro-democracy publications in the past five years on vague charges of insulting religious sensibilities or top clerics.

Stage 3....Resume nuclear research

Tue Jan 3, 10:45 PM ET

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran told the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency Tuesday it planned to resume nuclear fuel research after a 2 1/2-year hiatus, issuing a fresh challenge to Western nations concerned that Tehran is trying to build an atomic weapon.

Stage 4....find nuclear bomb-making materials:

Wednesday January 4, 07:30 AM

LONDON (AFP) - Iran has been scouring Europe for nuclear bomb technology, a British newspaper said, citing a report by Western intelligence agencies.

Stage 5...bomb the "F" out of the infidels in Israel and then... those in Europe!!! :jaw-dropp
 
'Divine mission' driving Iran's new leader

As Iran rushes towards confrontation with the world over its nuclear programme, the question uppermost in the mind of western leaders is "What is moving its President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to such recklessness?"

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But listen carefully to the utterances of Mr Ahmadinejad - recently described by President George W Bush as an "odd man" - and there is another dimension, a religious messianism that, some suspect, is giving the Iranian leader a dangerous sense of divine mission.

In November, the country was startled by a video showing Mr Ahmadinejad telling a cleric that he had felt the hand of God entrancing world leaders as he delivered a speech to the UN General Assembly last September.

When an aircraft crashed in Teheran last month, killing 108 people, Mr Ahmadinejad promised an investigation. But he also thanked the dead, saying: "What is important is that they have shown the way to martyrdom which we must follow."

The most remarkable aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's piety is his devotion to the Hidden Imam, the Messiah-like figure of Shia Islam, and the president's belief that his government must prepare the country for his return.

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All streams of Islam believe in a divine saviour, known as the Mahdi, who will appear at the End of Days. A common rumour - denied by the government but widely believed - is that Mr Ahmadinejad and his cabinet have signed a "contract" pledging themselves to work for the return of the Mahdi and sent it to Jamkaran.

Iran's dominant "Twelver" sect believes this will be Mohammed ibn Hasan, regarded as the 12th Imam, or righteous descendant of the Prophet Mohammad.

He is said to have gone into "occlusion" in the ninth century, at the age of five. His return will be preceded by cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed. After a cataclysmic confrontation with evil and darkness, the Mahdi will lead the world to an era of universal peace.

This is similar to the Christian vision of the Apocalypse. Indeed, the Hidden Imam is expected to return in the company of Jesus.

Mr Ahmadinejad appears to believe that these events are close at hand and that ordinary mortals can influence the divine timetable.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...an14.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/01/14/ixworld.html

Yipes!
 
Actually, his "historical" views--apart from the holocaust denial part--are not that far away than those of some members of this forum. israel as a european colonialist project? israel created because of the holocaust? zionism is racist / fascist / imperialistic? We sure heard those ones before on this forum.

To those of you--you know who you are--who accept all this: when you're in essential agreement with the leader of the world's greatest terrorist state, perhaps it's time to rethink your position.

LATE BREAKING NEWS: Richard Cheney, Adolf Hitler, and the Pope all thought or think that water is wet! Time for the rest of us to rethink our position.

IN OTHER NEWS...

Actually, once we get past the perpendicular sentiments, the gist of what Ahmadinejad is saying is correct. The popularly accepted version of the Holocaust was the best thing that ever happened as far as the Zionists are concerned, acting as a Pied Piper song for Jews the world over to flee to Israel. More than culture, religion, language, or race, The Holocaust is the number one uniter of Jews.

Ahmadinejad's mistakes here are:

(1) Contradiction on whether genocide was intended or not in WWII.

(2) Confusion about why European countries would care if Jews emigrated or not. Jewish influence in the West has only /increased/ with time, not decreased, so emigration has nothing to do with it, and no anti-Jewish politician could seriously imagine it does.

Conclusion: Perhaps Ahmadinejad could crack a book before he cracks some more of these earnest jokes of his.
 
To those of you--you know who you are--who accept all this: when you're in essential agreement with the leader of the world's greatest terrorist state, perhaps it's time to rethink your position.

The scary thing about him is that the language is so familiar. His ultimage authority, which legitimises what he thinks and does, is an in invisible big guy in the sky who is going to return some time soon and create paradise on earth. Familiar, and scary every time I hear it.
 
Stage 5...bomb the...infidels in Israel and then... those in Europe!!!

Why would the Muslims bomb Europe? They're going to own it in thirty years anyway given present levels of immigration.

By the way, here's a link to a brief Iranian government news article on how CNN recently apologised for majorly mistranslating some of Amadinejad's words. I couldn't find the apology on CNN's website.

CNN apologizes for misquoting Ahmadinejad's remarks
http://www.president.ir/eng/ahmadinejad/cronicnews/1384/10/26/index-e.htm#top

Is Iran lying? Is CNN concealing its apology?
 
^Bump^

Another old thread, no need to create a new one, this does nicely, thank you.

  • In a rambling speech, Ahmadinejad on Monday pointed the finger at the United States, Europe and Israel and said they were "destabilizing the entire world."

    Some European diplomats immediately walked out of the room when Ahmadinejad said Israel was "created on the pretext of Jewish suffering from World War II."

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1079641.html



(By the way, tonight in Israel, through tomorrow, is the solemn Holocaust Memorial Day)
 

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