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Boycott Arizona?

MattusMaximus said:
This :D

Actually, I had no plans to visit AZ, but if I did I think I'll be giving New Mexico another look first. I don't have any friends in AZ anyway, and I know someone in Santa Fe. Meh.
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The TV show COPS has ruined New Mexico for me. It's a dusty ugly hellhole filled with drunks and meth-heads.

I dare you to prove me wrong!
 
MLynn said:
Ken, don't listen to the propoganda - think critically and read the bill. Do you not already present your driver's license or other photo ID when you buy something at a store?
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What exactly are you buying that requires you to show your driver's license or other photo ID? I don't.

In fact, I pay for most store purchases with a card that I swipe in a machine.

This thing about "show me your papers" is BS. Really.
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But showing ID when you make a purchase in a store is not BS?

If this law doesn't give state and local police some new authority in dealing with suspected illegal immigrants (what "show me your papers" is short for), then what does it do?
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
What exactly are you buying that requires you to show your driver's license or other photo ID? I don't.

In fact, I pay for most store purchases with a card that I swipe in a machine.


But showing ID when you make a purchase in a store is not BS?

If this law doesn't give state and local police some new authority in dealing with suspected illegal immigrants (what "show me your papers" is short for), then what does it do?
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With the advent of debit cards, this doesn't really happen as much now as it used to, but when buying with a credit card, it was normal to be asked for ID. I don't know how common that still is since I buy everything with a debit card now.
 
MikeMangum said:
With the advent of debit cards, this doesn't really happen as much now as it used to, but when buying with a credit card, it was normal to be asked for ID. I don't know how common that still is since I buy everything with a debit card now.
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Even when I pay with a credit card, it's extremely rare that someone asks for ID.

At any rate, MLynn said nothing about making a purchase with a credit card. The implication was clearly that the law grants no new authority (or burden) to police greater than what store clerks already have--which is silly.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
....If this law doesn't give state and local police some new authority in dealing with suspected illegal immigrants (what "show me your papers" is short for), then what does it do?
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Well it's generated a huge reaction from the left. Maybe they needed a new "issue", a scapegoat or some new target to demonize and this was at the right time and place. Certainly the left wing propaganda machine spinning this issue is not concerned with facts eg as you ask "what does it do".

I suspect that the law clarifies a large number of technical issues in such a way that a cop has clear authority to ask such questions. The contra (real world, not political) has been that cops didn't want to intimidate the illegal community because, well, we all want the illegals calling the cops when a cop needs to be called....

But that's not working, when the border became a war zone and the issue in Washington stayed political football.
 
I can't think of one thing that comes out of Arizona. No offense. I'm sure stuff does but I wouldn't know what to boycott.
 
If I was a white person, I wouldn't have to worry about not having identification on me while I was jogging down the street. Since I'm not. I won't be going to AZ anytime soon.
 
Thunder said:
Are you considering not visiting Arizona because of the recent immigration, Birther, and ethnic education legislation that has been passed or proposed in the State?

I must admit...I am having thoughts of not passing through.
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Did you have any plans to visit prior to the law passing?
 
So Uh, I guess nasty white racist Arizonian here. :rolleyes: Oh that's not really true - I could live here 100 years and not be considered a real Arizonian. You have to be born here. My kids were born here, they are Arizonians. If they could get off their butt to vote they'd vote against this unjust law with me.

Importantly - Yeah, the Arizona Ice Tea company of New York wasted no time in throwing us all under the bus and explaining it is made in New York and has nothing to do with Arizona. So yeah, I'm already boycotting them this week. Crappy ice tea anyway. I noted that there was plenty of unsold stock remaining on the shelf. The store clerk denied a rumor that it was brewed with water from the East River. My son likes it but I told him to drink something more healthy, like Kool Aid.

The first really intelligent boycott against the state hit the hotel industry - a major employer of illegal immigrants, and legal immigrants too. The first group to cancel were immigration lawyers. Personally I don't think they were really going to come, this seemed more like an insurance policy. Scottsdale is the headquarters of that awful Christian legal foundation, so power to the lawyers. Stay home, aaargh that hurts.

The president of Mexico sent a memo warning Mexican tourists that they might be stopped and searched. Then inserts were printed to put inside the border crossing kits being handed out by local churches so that illegal immigrants know where to find water if lost in the desert.

Flagstaff and Tuscon city councils both sued the state. Not unexpected, we know which side our bread is buttered on.

The governor stood up to the UN today. We'll show them not to tell us what to teach. How dare Tuscon schools teach that Hispanics are oppressed. Why, they might hate us. Don't be hate'n we say. And well, now there's a law so they won't.
 
I will cheer against the Phoenix Suns in the rest of the NBA playoffs. In case you think this is slacktivism, let me remind you that this may entail cheering FOR the Los Angeles Lakers. Gruesome, but necessary.
 
O man. I'm not much of a basketball fan but I'm gonna make a time stamped prediction that if the Suns meet the Lakers the Suns will just fold. The Lakers spend a good part of a year mentally preparing Phoenix for defeat.
 
1) I'm tired and my humor senses are down. 2) Re: ID in stores: You need ID for cigs,beer and you REALLY SHOULD BE carded for credit cards, because all stores are supposed to verify signatures (I choose to verify ID.) In any case, Arizona is not a facist state. (Also, I can understand Arizona Tea throwing Arizona under the bus, I would too.... granted, this is why I don't think I'd name anything after a state, but..)
 
Kopji said:
Importantly - Yeah, the Arizona Ice Tea company of New York wasted no time in throwing us all under the bus and explaining it is made in New York and has nothing to do with Arizona. So yeah, I'm already boycotting them this week.
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How did they throw Arizona under the bus? If someone takes action against you for invalid reasons, shouldn't you say something?
 
KingMerv00 said:
I can't think of one thing that comes out of Arizona. No offense. I'm sure stuff does but I wouldn't know what to boycott.
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No offense taken. Tell ya what, how about all your liberal buddies who on ocassion inhale deeply some of that good stuff that comes through Arizona on it's way to their reefers boycott that same good stuff from Arizona?

Whattdayakhow, then they wouldn't need to tighten the Arizona laws up and check those poor mexicans who are just coming over to work but some of them are machine gun toting gangsters running the drugs on over for your liberal buddies and their cold cash.

No?
 
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