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Merged Boy Scouts' Perversion Files.

Elypsis44 said:
Well, thank goodness they banned gays so the organization could remain moral, pure and free from perversion.
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That reminds me, here is the thread on that whole debacle from a couple months ago for anyone that missed it:

Boy Scouts Reaffirms Ban on Gays

Also:

OnlyTellsTruths said:
Here's an article from 4 months ago when the Judge said the files need to be released. :

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/15/u...-scouts-perversion-files.html?ref=kirkjohnson

I'm not sure why it took 4 months, the BS have been fighting the release of the files for years, so I suppose they found a way to hold out a bit longer.
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Here's is the original thread from back in June when the Judge said the files are to be released:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238002

It has almost the exact same title as this thread...

Boy Scouts' Perversion Files.
Boy Scout's Perversion File

Who's apostrophe is correct!!
 
OnlyTellsTruths said:
That reminds me, here is the thread on that whole debacle from a couple months ago for anyone that missed it:

Boy Scouts Reaffirms Ban on Gays

Also:




Here's is the original thread from back in June when the Judge said the files are to be released:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238002

It has almost the exact same title as this thread...

Boy Scouts' Perversion Files.
Boy Scout's Perversion File

Who's apostrophe is correct!!
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Give that it's a plural possessive, the Perversion Files of the Boy Scouts, the former usage is correct; the apostrophe comes after the s.
The merged thread title is correct.
 
Catholic Church - Homophobic organization which holds itself out as a beacon of morality but which is full of pederasts.

Boy Scouts of America - Homophobic organization which holds itself out as a beacon of morality but which is full of pederasts.

Former member of both here.
 
BenBurch said:
Catholic Church - Homophobic organization which holds itself out as a beacon of morality but which is full of pederasts.

Boy Scouts of America - Homophobic organization which holds itself out as a beacon of morality but which is full of pederasts.

Former member of both here.
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I suspected Gerald Ford........
 
applecorped said:
The Boy Scouts of America has disclosed 14,500 pages of secret documents on men suspected of sexually abusing children, after a lengthy legal battle.
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Just the fact that The Boys Scouts of America even had "secret perversion files" is justification enough to have the whole organization disbanded.
 
BenBurch said:
Catholic Church - Homophobic organization which holds itself out as a beacon of morality but which is full of pederasts.

Boy Scouts of America - Homophobic organization which holds itself out as a beacon of morality but which is full of pederasts.

Former member of both here.
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Who was best? Priest or scoutmaster?
 
AlBell said:
Who was best? Priest or scoutmaster?
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That was beyond rude.

As it happens both the priest who was pastor of the church I grew up in and the scoutmaster who ran the troop I joined were abusers. I was not their target, and found out only years later, but they did significant damage to some of my peers.

So, you can joke all you like, you have that luxury since nobody bent you or any of your friends over in the rectory.
 
steve s said:
Don't you mean whose?;)




Ditto. Fortunately I made it through unscathed. Never even heard any rumors about anybody doing anything inappropriate .

Steve S
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And it is a shame so many scoutmaster who lived the ideals of the movement, taught generations of kids valuable lessons will be tarnished with this controversy
 
MG1962 said:
And it is a shame so many scoutmaster who lived the ideals of the movement, taught generations of kids valuable lessons will be tarnished with this controversy
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Might have more sympathy for the good guys if more of them had stood up to be counted and opposed the efforts to cover up. Perhaps then no Court case would have been necessary. Be interesting to know how much money was spent attempting to prevent release of the files.

Here in the UK we have the Jimmy Savile paedophile scandal developing by the day. Some at the BBC tried to prevent the story coming out, and the cost, financial and reputation, is far greater due to attempts to smother the story.

Further, because of cover ups some of the offenders, like Savile, die before they can be brought to justice. It is the victims we should consider above all else, and condemn the perpetrators and anyone who aided and abetted them, actively or passively!
 
Dubious Dick said:
Might have more sympathy for the good guys if more of them had stood up to be counted and opposed the efforts to cover up. Perhaps then no Court case would have been necessary. Be interesting to know how much money was spent attempting to prevent release of the files.
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The problem is that while this might be damning on the administration of the boy scouts, the individual scout masters would be unlikely to be complicit.
 
BenBurch said:
Catholic Church - Homophobic organization which holds itself out as a beacon of morality but which is full of pederasts.

Boy Scouts of America - Homophobic organization which holds itself out as a beacon of morality but which is full of pederasts.

Former member of both here.
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In fairness, any and every mid-to-large-scale youth organization everywhere is going to have an over-representation of such individuals among its membership, simply because that's where the access to kids is. The Boy Scouts could completely expunge every last shadow of homophobia or even moral preaching from its bylaws tomorrow, and it would continue to be pedophile-ridden as long as it exists. There's quite literally nothing that can be done except to kick them out as they're caught; and of course by then, one or more children are already damaged.
 
Checkmite said:
In fairness, any and every mid-to-large-scale youth organization everywhere is going to have an over-representation of such individuals among its membership, simply because that's where the access to kids is. The Boy Scouts could completely expunge every last shadow of homophobia or even moral preaching from its bylaws tomorrow, and it would continue to be pedophile-ridden as long as it exists. There's quite literally nothing that can be done except to kick them out as they're caught; and of course by then, one or more children are already damaged.
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I see what you are saying but I do not agree with the "literally nothing can be done". Surely there are redundancies or rules that would reduce it dramatically.

Something like: X number of adults have to be around at all times. There being just 1 adult with any number of kids is strictly forbidden. Zero tolerance for violations of that rule. Etc.

If X was two, it might not work, they could both be bad. But, for instance, if the required number (X) was unworkably high. Say, 100 adults. Then there would be no deceitful scheming going on.

If it was 4 or so, it should reduce the problems dramatically.
 
MG1962 said:
And it is a shame so many scoutmaster who lived the ideals of the movement, taught generations of kids valuable lessons will be tarnished with this controversy
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L'enfer est pavé de bonne intention
(hell's road are paved with good intentions).

Idealistic thought do not count as much as actual acts. Furthermore such group tend to attract pedophiles, and such group tend to try to hide the act of pedophile rather than report them. I would bet my pants off with you, that such stuff went on for a long time, maybe even from the right starts of the BSA, when such scandal were much much more likely to be hushed than uncovered.
 
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