Boy fatally shot trick-or-treating, police say

[Oliver]

A sad story, indeed...

Boy fatally shot trick-or-treating, police say

*snip* The family was headed home from a city-sponsored event downtown when they decided to stop at a few homes, Sumter Police Chief Patty Patterson said. The father and his four children approached a home with a porch light on about 8:30 p.m. EDT while their mother waited nearby in a vehicle. As the family was at the door, they thought they heard fireworks. The 12-year-old boy, his father and brother were all hit by the gunfire. The boy died at a hospital, Coroner Verna Moore said. The other two children were not hurt. *snip*

Full Source: http://us.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/01/halloween.slaying.ap/index.html

I assume that even if the guy didn't have a gun and second amendment rights,
the incident would've happened anyway, right? [Asking the pro-gun crowd]

 

[gtc]

Maybe.

There was a stabbing in Sydney, Australia that might have been due to a Halloween prank going wrong.

 

[Oliver]

Maybe.

There was a stabbing in Sydney, Australia that might have been due to a Halloween prank going wrong.

That's also a sad story - but it might have been a more fatal one
if there were guns involved, don't you think? After all, the Australian
guy survived.

 

[paximperium]

A sad story, indeed...

I assume that even if the guy didn't have a gun and second amendment rights,
the incident would've happened anyway, right? [Asking the pro-gun crowd]

It is sad. Sadder still that someone would decide to use this incident to take pot shots at gun owners who are not involved with the incident at all.

If and when you decide to actually have a real discussion on this issue, start another thread. This thread smells.

 

[gtc]

That's also a sad story - but it might have been a more fatal one
if there were guns involved, don't you think? After all, the Australian
guy survived.

It have been worse but there have been fatal stabbings recently and non-fatal shootings so it might depend on the situation.

 

[Lonewulf]

Yet another thread baiting for a discussion that has little to do with the case involved. Disgusting.

I can pull out anecdotes too, and act as if they prove a point. But I don't, because you know what? I'm above that. I'd rather the gutter trash of the forums be cleared instead of creating it myself.

 

[casebro]

And even in the cited case, three out of four gunshot victims were un-injured. Care to compare that to knifing victims?

 

[Nogbad]

And even in the cited case, three out of four gunshot victims were un-injured. Care to compare that to knifing victims?

ergo knives are more dangerous than guns

ditch your guns and get yourselves a good knife

 

[WildCat]

So Oliver is no longer a Libertarian?

 

[Nogbad]

Shome mishtake shurley - I thought Oliver was a left of centre Democrat.

 

[WildCat]

Shome mishtake shurley - I thought Oliver was a left of centre Democrat.

Oliver spent months here singing the praises of Ron Paul...

 

[tyr_13]

A sad story, indeed...




I assume that even if the guy didn't have a gun and second amendment rights,
the incident would've happened anyway, right? [Asking the pro-gun crowd]

That's right, someone did something stupid with a gun. This child would be a live if guns were illegal (or there would just be one more charge on top of homicide, etc.). Guns are evil and no one should have them because people do stupid things with them.

Same with rope.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/m...p-accidental-hanging-strangulation-per-capita

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2008/06/child_dies_in_accidental_hangi.html

Or any of a dozen other accidental hangings.

 

[dudalb]

Shome mishtake shurley - I thought Oliver was a left of centre Democrat.

Since Oliver is a German Citizen who I don't think has ever been to the US, no way he can be a Democrat..or a Republican for that matter.
You were not around here last year at this time when Oliver was flooding the politics forum with "Ron Paul Is the Greatest American Of All Time" threads?

 

[JWideman]

What we really need is a law against _____. With a law against _____, nobody would ever ____.

 

[Pardalis]

That's also a sad story - but it might have been a more fatal one
if there were guns involved, don't you think? After all, the Australian
guy survived.

The American case seems to be second degree murder or manslaughter, the Australian case seems to be a first degree attempted murder. Which is worse?

In Oliver's mind, American is always the worst.

 

[Lonewulf]

What we really need is a law against _____. With a law against _____, nobody would ever ____.

Heh, I laughed.

 

[Pardalis]

BTW, what kind of an idiot is this guy?

An ex-convict who said he thought he was being robbed gunned down a 12-year-old trick-or-treater, spraying nearly 30 rounds with an assault rifle from inside his home after hearing a knock on the door, police said Saturday.

Since when burglars KNOCK?

 

[Magyar]

That's right, someone did something stupid with a gun. This child would be a live if guns were illegal (or there would just be one more charge on top of homicide, etc.). Guns are evil and no one should have them because people do stupid things with them.

.

No, but MAYBE just MAYBE the story illustrates that not every retard gun happy redneck with a penis inferiority complex should be able go out and buy an AK47 just because he's paranoid. Maybe just maybe a little bit more testing, licensing ceritification and mental stability checks should be in place before you hand a moron a deadly weapon or give a FULLY auto uzi to an 8 year old just because they want to shoot a big bad gun.

BUT no that would be takin a waay your wraaaiigtz

 

[Ausmerican]

If he was an ex con wouldn't he have had the assault rifle illegally anyway? If so gun laws have nothing to do with this case.

 

[Gagglegnash]

Hi

Yes. If only there were a law against having guns.

Oh... Wait! There IS!!

....for the shooter, at least, there is.

First: Convicted felons are not allowed to own guns. It is as absolute a prohibition as any law can provide!

Second: People in general are legally prohibited from firing their guns in town. There is a provision in some places, making it allowable if their life, or the life or well being of a third party, is in imminent danger and such force is thought to be necessary to stop the assault.

The shooter was not exercising his Second Amendment Right to keep and bear arms. He was violating laws!

If someone cares little enough about the laws already on the books preventing him from owning a firearm and subsequent jackassulation therewith, what good will one more law do?

Laws only stop people who are interested enough in the law to obey it from violating laws. The funny thing is: None of those people shot any trick-'r-treaters on Haloween!

So, yes Oliver, unless you can find a way to somehow make all the guns... just... go away... the incident probably would've happened anyway.