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Merged Boston Marathon CTs

Clayton Moore said:
The content of your posts is garbage. How do two quasi military guys with earplugs and huge backpacks walk across the street from where a bomb will go off just before it goes off?
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I'll ask again. Where is your evidence for this specific timeline of events.

They are not "quasi military" they are national guard. This has been confirmed by just about everyone.

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Clayton Moore said:
Last time I heard on duty military personnel don't wear unauthorized covers.
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WMD CST use a non standard uniform. There is no reason to think he couldn't be wearing his own hat.

two CST in non matching uniforms.

more variations

more including a non standard cap

more variations including hats!

From the dailypaul.com

As to why one of them were seen wearing Craft apparel, Craft International provides training programs to police and military, and it is likely that the whole team received training from Craft and received the apparel from them, or maybe just the individual did, or maybe it's even simpler than that, perhaps the man wearing the hat simply likes the hat and purchased it from Craft.

Their presence does lend credence to the idea that authorities may have had prior intelligence of a possible bombing, or were in fact holding a drill that day.
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link with more pictures and info at the daily paul.

In short, your post is garbage. Good day sir!
 
Clayton Moore said:
Last time I heard on duty military personnel don't wear unauthorized covers.
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Wrong twice (maybe you only know Marines?)

There is a variety of headgear that may be authorized within specific assignments, and that would include wearing a distinctive team shirt or hat when part of an outreach activity.

(Among other conditions, the uniform of the day is frequently modified for specific training activities).

But further than this, most activities such as being at a marathon are not duty per se, and the uniform is not prescribed. The uniform is worn when on post on duty, when in a combat zone, and when making a certain circumscribed set of military movements (as in, transport). The prescriptions are rather more about when you should NOT wear the uniform!

I was in uniform at least once while flying on a civilian aircraft to a new duty station. But I was NOT in uniform when I was a team captain representing the 82d airborne at an all-forces marathon held at Ft. Benning.

Now, I'm not sure which specific personnel you may be speaking of in your remark above, but there are a number of ways in which, indeed, wearing something other than the usual headgear is indeed both authorized and normal.
 
Brass said:
Just had a thought....how does contradictory evidence prove a conspiracy. If a conspiracy was truly at play here, wouldn't the authorities make sure the case was watertight and that nothing slipped out?
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No no. These people are evil geniuses and bumbling idiots at the exact same time.

The other trope is that they let a few things slip because they want some people to realize their evil works!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
Brass said:
Just had a thought....how does contradictory evidence prove a conspiracy. If a conspiracy was truly at play here, wouldn't the authorities make sure the case was watertight and that nothing slipped out?
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No. In Clayton world, the gubbmint is simultaneously nefariously scheming, yet wholly incompetent.
 
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/25/breaking-third-bomb-explodes-in-boston/

Oh, no…don’t say I tricked you with the title. This is a news bomb if there ever was one. The Saudi national that Glenn Beck has been making a big fuss over is…Osama bin Laden’s son, Al-Harbi.

But this is just for openers. His nick name is the Crown Prince of Terror, and has been reported to have vowed revenge on the US for killing his father. While we don’t have confirmation of his nickname and threat, we do know he has 3-B status…terrorist.
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And further off the subject, but when I was in the Reserves (which often has, shall we say, laxer standards), we once had an assembly on the day following a particularly grueling "summer camp." Everyone's fatigues had gotten trashed playing with tanks and barbed wire in the desert, and they showed up for this brief battalion assembly in...

Current issue fatigues
Current issue fatigues that were coming apart at the seams, worn with tennies
Current issue jungle fatigues with jungle boots (that was me!)
Tiger stripes (that was my platoon sergeant, a Vietnam vet)
OG 107's -- the green work uniform that went out twenty years ago (our motor sergeant).

But I think Top had on a t-shirt, and the Colonel was in civvies, so they let us pass.
 
Thanks for making my point Clayton, you're here to vomit your schtick all over the place, not rationally discuss anything.
 
Clayton Moore said:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/25/breaking-third-bomb-explodes-in-boston/
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His nick name is the Crown Prince of Terror, and has been reported to have vowed revenge on the US for killing his father. While we don’t have confirmation of his nickname and threat, we do know he has 3-B status…terrorist.
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Wow, that's just a free stundie. Got any more we can have? Trawling the net for stupidity is pretty wearing after a while, you could be saving us a lot of work.
 
Scotty Ladouche said:
Did you not read my first 10 posts in this thread?? Please tell me you are parodying yourself, and not really this stupid.
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This is a common trait among CTer's. I have demonstrated the obvious faults in their hypotheses to truthers over the years, only to have them continue to regurgitate the same bilge in their next threads.

Basically, evidence and reason rarely influence a belief system.
 
greybeard said:
I had a quick look at what this site represents and it seems they are well into conspiracy theories and even holocaust denial. I think without some better "evidence" than they are posting I will believe what I can see with my own eyes from the wealth of evidence presented online. Thank you very much!
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Yes, it's just another junk site on the internet leading the herd by the nose.
 
Biscuit said:
Oh this is just too funny. Here is link to craft internationals website. Notice one of the first options is to "Buy Craft Gear."

That's just precious.
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Whatever else, I wish they'd hire me to proofread their site: "We are honored to be able to share with you the lessons learned from our instructors, whom have walked in similar paths as yourself, and some of whom continue to still do so today."


Clayton Moore said:
Thing about me, I'm not a traitor.
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:confused::confused::confused: Implying that others here are?

And, by the way, a whole bunch of forum members couldn't possibly be traitors to the U.S. because they don't live here and aren't U.S. citizens.
 
greybeard said:
I had a quick look at what this site represents and it seems they are well into conspiracy theories and even holocaust denial. I think without some better "evidence" than they are posting I will believe what I can see with my own eyes from the wealth of evidence presented online. Thank you very much!
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Linky?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Thing about me, I'm not a traitor.
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Clayton Moore, I wholeheartedly believe that you do not think yourself a traitor.

That said, you might ponder the following. First up, a definition.

Merriam-Webster said:
trai·tor noun \ˈtrā-tər\

Definition of TRAITOR

1 : one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty
2 : one who commits treason
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What are the obligations of a citizen? Well, naturalized citizens swear to this:

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.
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Source: Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America

Note the highlighted phrase, regarding "true faith and allegience".

I put it to you, continued accusation of the American Government as complicit in the murder of it's citizens, without any solid proof (no benefit of the doubt), is in contradiction to the phrase "true faith and allegiance".

Now, I am not saying you do not have a right to accuse the government of criminal acts, for many have done so in the past, and rightfully so. However, you owe it as a matter of true faith and allegiance to the United States of America, as a citizen, to give it a fair shake when it comes to accusations. That includes putting a priority of hard facts and evidence over conjecture, including your own conjecture.

I am not a lawyer. And in any case such a serious charge as treason would have to be tried in a court of law. However I can speak to what is in my heart, and what is in my heart is that I as an American Citizen owe just as much an obligation to give my government a fair shake regarding criminal accusations as I do to my family and fellow citizens. And that fair shake rests in evidence, not conjecture.
 
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